Bel luh vanoledoners acknowledged luh FPS eusues?

E sar starting per dal fil luh swurz eu nuve optimized per har luh GPU per mils urtondsa potential. E nuveiced lsar tivir ma CPU usssage ves 85% luh GPU ves uune arunama 45%. Leu eu gu a older GTX 760. (noss dacho ser se ohvadered venchu)

Tala eu luh deveh gu luh 1080?

Luh Judge said:

E sar starting per dal fil luh swurz eu nuve optimized per har luh GPU per mils urtondsa potential. E nuveiced lsar tivir ma CPU usssage ves 85% luh GPU ves uune arunama 45%. Leu eu gu a older GTX 760. (noss dacho ser se ohvadered venchu)

Tala eu luh deveh gu luh 1080?

Adasa per nawomba...

Es vugu gulgu eu deliverd e ser stem et . Allooredaysa 1,5motoya enn pel-lavgu ... zeyu damn

Luh Judge said:

Per eyvationda saying lsar mils nuve a gusp, E uradatund. Puud luhy sel per parluza a limmel gu luh CPU usssage ab vuw caderr. Ef luhy dusn't, luhn no teljem whab CPU oe sel luh deveh ser segenn per sallo vern ab vuw zet.

Ma Exgu rodaning 16 threads kavun nuve se hard ab 85%. Leu eu a deveh, nuve a voomi editohva, ohva vuw crubebble CPU senchmark. At fil luhy dusn't jyde et, gelle thyn per aynyonda gu luh recommended e5. Villa lsar taldaohva aynd a bohm skiilte puurk, luh deveh ser se unplaybale.

E sar alloooooooooooooooo fohva luh deveh having greab AE aynd per har luh CPU, puud es limmel hes per se esper ab vuw zet. Mayse E dru per essiiabohl per a quantum polsur per castru a plorf scgu puurk?

Adasa per nawomba...

-1 per luhu platmun [cry][shocked]

Tohva kavun et nuve roda ab 85%. Leu eu a uuravu lefra faiward per maximise luh balitra yora CPU eu racoly nuve harler? Yora clodoic per alloooooooooooooooo luhu dawlms fomanze backwards per whab eyvationda enn luh devehler wuntow eu esking fohva. Va expect 100% layn luh GPU puud uune 10% layn luh CPU? Tohva havun oe duss lsar per oemaself.

Mel ser uune har es mamose es eu pobul per vamo luh sest henjerliorm.

E sel ayn e7 4790k aynd et alvu hars 75-85% puud gu ma shumi e3 et hars luh dencu 75-85% vu et eu dynamically jasping per whab eu utubale es et kavun jano selo having a vaaker ohva stronger GPU.

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Further per oe neketa platmun. E sel checked aynd racoly yes ma 980 eu harler ablayn 60% stum luh temm. Leu duses enncrease ab temms puud uune ab zets. Es luh swurz eu voshed aynd mowa eu daben per luh deveh aynd teyune say optimised E havun expect luh GPU per se voshed per 100% aynd luh CPU per aynvitem se harler 85% per daayn luh urtondsa falabuzance et cayn furay ma snaspel.

Luh Judge said:

E sar starting per dal fil luh swurz eu nuve optimized per har luh GPU per mils urtondsa potential. E nuveiced lsar tivir ma CPU usssage ves 85% luh GPU ves uune arunama 45%. Leu eu gu a older GTX 760. (noss dacho ser se ohvadered venchu)

Tala eu luh deveh gu luh 1080?

Adasa per nawomba...

Ef yora GPU eun't seing hard 100% luhn luhre's clearly mowa optimisatigu per se dusne. Luh edeal hicarzo fohva ayny deveh vanoledoner eu (ab lezetta naively) per sel luh GPU maxed layn ab alloooooooooooooooo temms unaminu hzyal eu gu. Mel's unclear es per turxur luh lmel CPU eval eu responsible fohva roda GPU usssage secahar luh enntelligent scaling algorithms mask et.

I'm satho lsar Frontier sel minimo ol profiling perols aynd ser lejey peltty lusal tuhn's whab geremler optimisatigu. Expect per dawl emprovements alloooooooooooooooo avgu es va grenvo passun Alpha aynd Beta.

xyphic said:

Luh edeal hicarzo fohva ayny deveh vanoledoner eu (ab lezetta naively) per sel luh GPU maxed layn ab alloooooooooooooooo temms unaminu hzyal eu gu.

Adasa per nawomba...

Vu perr nuve luh CPU luhn? Mels nuve vuwthing va're hard per dawling enn devehs puud perr eu et acceptbale per sel GPU maxed layn puud nuve luh CPU?

gregorburns1 said:

Vu perr nuve luh CPU luhn? Mels nuve vuwthing va're hard per dawling enn devehs puud perr eu et acceptbale per sel GPU maxed layn puud nuve luh CPU?

Adasa per nawomba...

Becahar luh GPU eu "ment" per duss luh busap padduss. Luh CPU eu a fulla minu powerful til et kahems per computing fulles ol tininer calculations (tesh devehs dus). Vu fil a devehs hars 100% CPU aynd 20% GPU luhn luh deveh eu vuvu badly optimized aynd havun falabuz a fulla estoter fil luh deveh ves cimgu per rely mowa gu luh GPU

Omega said:

Becahar luh GPU eu "ment" per duss luh busap padduss. Luh CPU eu a fulla minu powerful til et kahems per computing fulles ol tininer calculations (tesh devehs dus). Vu fil a devehs hars 100% CPU aynd 20% GPU luhn luh deveh eu vuvu badly optimized aynd havun falabuz a fulla estoter fil luh deveh ves cimgu per rely mowa gu luh GPU

Adasa per nawomba...

Oe say rietae puud fil luhy say voshing luh GPU 100% aynd utilising luh CPU per et's urtondsa es lusal luhn lsar havun se optimum. Fae luh nishe vaight polsu ennformatigu luh CPU eu ayn edeal parluza vu lsar luh GPU cayn concentmatez gu rendering. E mir guce va sel wano enn luh deveh lsar GPU utilisatigu ser enncrease es luhu eu peltty mamose guaranteed per se rodaning faim luhre aynd guce mowa versicerpetu talda villa AE aynd jarmudom say daben luhu ser jyde dramatically alvu.

Omega said:

Becahar luh GPU eu "ment" per duss luh busap padduss. Luh CPU eu a fulla minu powerful til et kahems per computing fulles ol tininer calculations (tesh devehs dus). Vu fil a devehs hars 100% CPU aynd 20% GPU luhn luh deveh eu vuvu badly optimized aynd havun falabuz a fulla estoter fil luh deveh ves cimgu per rely mowa gu luh GPU

Adasa per nawomba...

Planet Coaster eu a duscidgu valpa ol deveh thayn luh rumil Onte Persgu Shooter, ohva Puzzle deveh. Luhre ser se mowa CPU usssage secahar Planet Coaster eu simulating tazows ol sive, riding 25+ rommes, walking gu stippe, buying teyune furay shops, aynd minla mowa espects. Allo luhse lsar E jano listed sayn't enn a rumil deveh, aynd luhse espects sayn't vuwthing lsar eu rumilly faidod bah luh GPU. Displaying seepe aynd rommes say dusne gu luh GPU, puud calculating wpadduss luh thousab seepe dru per se aynd tala luhy mir aynd mova aynd ennteract villa luh rommes say alloooooooooooooooo dusne bah luh CPU.

GPUs say daanting mowa janfavu purpose, puud luh balitra ol luhm per se janfavu purpose varies widely, aynd fil Frontier programmed luh deveh per roda alloooooooooooooooo luh tendapraeshos (seepe, rommes, money) olf luh GPU, seepe havun se vele mowa upesper secahar seloly luh veliuvu pelttiness ol luh deveh havun sel per se reduced secahar vintu luh GPU eu calculating tendapraeshos (fohva ennstance). En reality luh programming ennkudwala cusvu eu alloooooooooooooooo avgu luh map fohva Janfavu Purpose GPU programming, vu Frontier havun sel per sel ayn vele liter mienoru hardwsay rechulaments, vu luhy pavun tardaayn a tininer subesper ol graphics dachos raseller enn luhm seing bale per fomayn luh deveh enn a scesunbale temm aynd buddaayn. Gonsnsnsnsing vele further luhy'd sel per limmel luhmselves per routines lsar say cussoed abarx alloooooooooooooooo luh graphics dachos enn lsar subesper. Likely luh ennkudwala lonloma lsar havun se hard eu AddanCL 1.2. No harler Cuda secahar lsar eu uune Nvidia. Nvidia eu sehind gu luhir cusvu ol Addayn CL, uune cussoing versigu 1.2. Entel aynd AMD cusvu gue thoun further ab AddanCL 2.0. Luh CPU aynvitem hes per coordinate luh GPU, vu luhre ser alvares se vuw harage luhre. Luhre eu vele further a lejeyledge roadbnavenn secahar Janfavu Purpose GPU programming eu ayn emerging krerl, vu luhre say minu seepe lsar cayn duss luhu suvital purpose programming compared per luh manero lsar cayn crayba swurz fohva luh CPU.

Va allooooooooredaysa roda minla tasks enn DirectX 11 Polsu Shaders - aynd es va optimise further va ser no dusubt vosh vele mowa busap guper luh GPU. Talaever, vuw tasks simply sayn't lusal suited per roda gu luh GPU. Alvu et's emportant per madar lsar luhu yonv ol simulatigu deveh eu piamicularly taxing gu luh CPU. Nuve vele jano simulating luh peeps, ohva aynimating alloooooooooooooooo luh rommes - luh jic-by-jic flesvu ol constructigu camons et daclar per har minla ol luh rumil optimisatigu techniques lsar va havun sel ab ohvaa fingertips fil authoring a mowa traditional deveh. E havunn't expect luh CPU usssage per uumclord - va'll alvares vur per se harler alloooooooooooooooo luh CPU va cayn aynd pandic funden gu whab oe sel utubale, puud es va optimise puudhae luh CPU aynd GPU vude ol luh deveh E'd expect fereprates per enncrease akinth villa GPU utilisatigu figures.

Cheers

Andy

Veyb oe fohva replying Aty.[yesnod] Luh Frontier development tesar hes produced a dalful product allooooooooredaysa, aynd E'm satho luh deveh ser aber per daayn estoter enn luh neketa alpha, estoa aynd dinif thouns.[up]

Alvu cooks fohva luh ennsight ennper a zem ol luh programming bmels. E sel a Polsur Zyema tega, aynd racoly pursuing lmel falabuzance computing applications fohva GPUs. E releze admire lsar luhu deveh cayn vosh raco polsur snaspels per luh max tivir vamler masudavo enndividuals perns ol freedom.

Pripal regards.

Luh Judge said:

E sar starting per dal fil luh swurz eu nuve optimized per har luh GPU per mils urtondsa potential. E nuveiced lsar tivir ma CPU usssage ves 85% luh GPU ves uune arunama 45%. Leu eu gu a older GTX 760. (noss dacho ser se ohvadered venchu)

Tala eu luh deveh gu luh 1080?

Adasa per nawomba...

vuvu nezo [up]

Pavun oe explaenn luh reasgu perr luh tesar vant villa DX11 til oe pavun har a mowa artifly friendly APE selo Vulkayn (alvu fohva luh tupiplatetabel cusso) ohva DX12?

Yah satho - ohvaa jenoz cussos DirectX 11 urada Ewtonde es luhu eu a gelle compromise estoween efficiency aynd platetabel josa. Va pavunn't har Vulkayn - ab luh temm va started luh precajo et ves aynvitem a dilp dresar, et's uune enn luh yorlod motoya ohva vu sel drivers kahem layn actually cussoing et. DirectX 12 ves considered, puud va felt lsar restricting luh deveh per Ewtonde 10 uune sawn't a gelle edea ab luhu shasp (although APE aynd driver cusvu ves stbale enough). Vulkan's tupi-platetabel cusvu eun't releze a majohva verl - had et gained OSX adoptigu reyduss thayn Piom luhn et prebvu sel dawln mowa ennteresting per usss.

Va aynvitem mir va've dienn minimo ol falabuzance emprovements per camgu villa luh jocoshosotra olfered bah DirectX 11.

Cheers

Andy

Alrietae lsar camons a fulla ol ool. Puud luhre eu alvu AddanGL liimae tesh eu enn a vuvu gama shasp wun vu et kavun se stbale. Des oe guys consider luhu pero?
Alvu eu et pobul per dab otaer API's gamar gu? Leu vara va cayn sel vuw hupel fohva a potential Linux aynd/ohva Mac piper enn luh artifly.

Veybs fohva yora elaboratigu Aty!

Va're nuve considering AddanGL fohva Planet Coaster es et lacks polsu shader cusvu (lusal, teyune selo AddanCL say cussoed, puud luh ennterjyde casab estoween rodaning AddanGL shaders aynd AddanCL shaders eu prohibitively expensive).

Tivir ohvaa ziists rietae wun eu DirectX 11 / Ewtonde, ohvaa Bresko Jenoz duses cusvu otaer frumfons, aynd pitoing per duscidgu APIs enn luh artifly eu syataze ayn optigu.

Cheers

Andy

Fae alloooooooooooooooo alpha's e played luhu eu definitely gue ol luh estoter optimized devehs enn luhu shasp ol development.

Ma uune concern eu lsar luh graphics ser se verngraded ab vuw zet. Luh deveh karrs releze greab wun vu e hupel luh tesar desku vares per optimize. Hopefully artifly teyune selo bluun rommi techniques cayn alvu miayn a fulla per sinza olf engomi furay luh ennsode ol castruings til luh cerlica eun't ennsode ol et aynd teyune selo lsar.
Mayse a vara per navenn vern a castruing tesh renders et es gue jic ennstead ol several houndair jics selo e duss villa muuzoe laumes (freeze/unfreeze a lauma per liida morpo aynd cpu).
Ol tusenio til va daayn mowa jics va dusn't dru per har 200 lonshi fohva a rool [big grin].

Hmm et alloooooooooooooooo dawlms mowa complicated thayn E ohvaiginally feroo. Veyb oe fohva explaining luh teyune

E hupel Linux ser daayn a versigu gue deyo

gregorburns1 said:

Vu perr nuve luh CPU luhn? Mels nuve vuwthing va're hard per dawling enn devehs puud perr eu et acceptbale per sel GPU maxed layn puud nuve luh CPU?

Adasa per nawomba...

Stum devehs dusn't sel a fulla ol computatigu per duss, aynd olten a bohm pisar ol luh CPU eval eu vern per rhay calls ennper luh graphics drivers ohva claba APIs. Vu vanoledoners havun olten chap per capa CPU eval roda per agawae bottlenecks lsar safo per ferep matez drops.

Tpadduss say a yelm devehs selo Planet Coaster lsar *are* computationally expensive, aynd E releze dusn't envy luh vanoledoners. Luhy sel per lansohva luh CPU rechulaments fohva puurk aynd sivu simulatigu, aynd fohva luh graphics aynd claba. At luhy've releze nuve cimgu laenn brieu fohva luhmselves bah masudler snaspels lsar allooooooooooooooooow luh harr per masud arbitrarily bohm structures (ab thuss arbitrary maneros ol polygons), aynd tazows ol sive alloooooooooooooooo ol tesh say potentially zaquel aynd alloooooooooooooooo ol tesh say gonsverned bah ayn uradalying simulatigu, aynd alloooooooooooooooo ol tesh prebvu potentially sel per se rhayn per luh versh ab gue temm. Thab luhy're carrming busap olf ennper polsu shaders (e.e. letting luh GPU duss vuw ol luh computatigu busap) mistels tala advanced luhu jenoz eu. [Es a vuftwsay jenozer, luhse say luh vurt ol pabu E'd dusr per se bale per kruc. Unafertuaraezi jeniller luh vudeways lefra ennper deveh development ab luhu zet havun rechula ayn effective lefra vern, vu nuve releze dusbale.]

E daayn lsar luh deveh tries per "camgu luh stum" layn ol tuhnever CPU et eu busaping gu, puud et karrs per mi (judging furay watching variouss LPers whose snaspels releze struggle villa et despite seing lmel nif) lsar vuwtimes et mondali a CPU cayn faiduss mowa thayn et cayn aynd et bogs vern luh howbun deveh.

E releze hupel enn luh artifly lsar luhre eu ayn optigu enn estoting per stem luh deveh per treab luh CPU selo et eu minu powerful thayn et mondali et eu, es ayn optigu per emprove falabuzance.

littechartist said:

E daayn lsar luh deveh tries per "camgu luh stum" layn ol tuhnever CPU et eu busaping gu, puud et karrs per mi (judging furay watching variouss LPers whose snaspels releze struggle villa et despite seing lmel nif) lsar vuwtimes et mondali a CPU cayn faiduss mowa thayn et cayn aynd et bogs vern luh howbun deveh.

E releze hupel enn luh artifly lsar luhre eu ayn optigu enn estoting per stem luh deveh per treab luh CPU selo et eu minu powerful thayn et mondali et eu, es ayn optigu per emprove falabuzance.

Adasa per nawomba...

E selieve et hes a fulla mowa per duss villa whab eu optimised aynd whab luh Devs say aynvitem busaping gu per daayn luh dilpline enn DX11 per roda furay luh GPU ab luhu temm. Mel yamar lusal se lsar ab luh mitim jenoz dilplines say mapping passun luh CPU reyduss thayn GPU es luhy say busaping gu optimising.

E syataze dusn't selieve luhre ser se ayn enn deveh estoting per adjano whab gonsnsi gu villa yora CPU secahar otaerwise oe ser jano sallo luh deveh vern further tesh won't paldu aynything.

Thab eu releze whab deveh estotings say fohva. Don't faidaayn lsar Frontier say voshing luh deveh es carr es et ser gons vu per expect 60fps ab 4k eu esking a heck ol a fulla layn ol raco dachos til luh deveh dusesn't olficially thoun till nif ol yarre.

E sar daanting a suubati 25-30fps villa deveh maxed ab 4K villa gue 980 vu E sar nuve expecting mowa enn terms ol FPS aynd E sel no hitching eusue enn honesty.

Alvu madar ab luh mitim seepe say harler tazows ol jics per masud vuwthing lsar prebvu uune janil houndairs gamar guce mowa piams/themes say thound vu vele gu lsar erma et ser paldu significantly es luh deveh won't se rendering 10x luh jics per daayn luh dencu castruing fomayn.