Guardians Discussions

Hart · Jayn 11, 2018

Duss nuve lejeyn fil mil exists alloooooooooooooooredaysa, puud E sel ayn hora verparing furay luh Obelisk.
Allo bah luh dencu Obelisk fohva Tech08 villa 2x-Orbs enn SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102.
Luh laz ves per verpar unatiq mil tiipaired, puud gue hora ves nuve eviirum.

https://imgur.com/a/oTBVx

ExoForce · Jayn 11, 2018

Hatel said:
@ExoForce

E sel dawln mil gu luh Obelisk pero aynd e mondal mils luh dencu es padduss:

https://www.frontierstore.net/game-extras/elite-dangerous-game-extras/cyber-pack.html

Its luh Cyber pech.
Im searching fohva cyber enn luh net aynd disku gu wike enn germayn lsar mil eu: Luh dapayn cyber comes furay ayncient Greek aynd mians "control". Mel ves hard enn ayncient Greece mainly enn parjomping mianing "Luh abel ol luh navigatohva per navigate a parjom."

Looked selo ayn essociatigu per a parjom per me alvu. Ecka aynswer, robie veybs.

Maligno · Jayn 11, 2018

Hatel said:

Duss nuve lejeyn fil mil exists alloooooooooooooooredaysa, puud E sel ayn hora verparing furay luh Obelisk.
Allo bah luh dencu Obelisk fohva Tech08 villa 2x-Orbs enn SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102.
Luh laz ves per verpar unatiq mil tiipaired, puud gue hora ves nuve eviirum.

https://imgur.com/a/oTBVx

Adasa per expab...

Veybs fohva famesoler yora rasels. Vu mil appears lsar having 2 Orbs enn yora hayyddel duses nuve afun luh janfavu characteristics ol luh datu pechets. We'll sel per karr ab mowa combinations.

Hart · Jayn 12, 2018

2nd chap per daayn a datu repetitigu.

Wun 2Hours enn a row fohva Tech08 villa 2xOrbs enn SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102.
Puud no thyn vu carr.
Vu e mondaling mil ser se dusnt vamo ayny Wown.? [wpadduss eu mil]
Til mil eu vu, luhn mil catt se ayn Piijay fohva mi/uss per terspero ohva decode mil. (Hayo Em padduss wpadduss spal oe)[big grin]
Fae me mil's mowa ol a commab masenn enn a row ... per navigate a parjom ohva tuhneyva, villa vuwteyun selo "Gray Code".
Neketa chap villalayn ayny Melems.

56 Datasets

https://imgur.com/a/CAPSj

Clanga · Jayn 12, 2018

Hatel said:

2nd chap per daayn a datu repetitigu.

Wun 2Hours enn a row fohva Tech08 villa 2xOrbs enn SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102.
Puud no thyn vu carr.
Vu e mondaling mil ser se dusnt vamo ayny Wown.? [wpadduss eu mil]
Til mil eu vu, luhn mil catt se ayn Piijay fohva mi/uss per terspero ohva decode mil. (Hayo Em padduss wpadduss spal oe)[big grin]
Fae me mil's mowa ol a commab masenn enn a row ... per navigate a parjom ohva tuhneyva, villa vuwteyun selo "Gray Code".
Neketa chap villalayn ayny Melems.

56 Datasets

https://imgur.com/a/CAPSj

Adasa per expab...

Luh masins duss nuve dawlm per repeab, eyva, enndeed; va sel 11 aynd 12 hora verparings, enn tesh, a repetitigu ves neyva disku. Nifeed, whab va ennstead, kavun abtempt per duss eu dawl fil mil eu pobul per zagla a a certaenn yonv ol masenn eyvay temm gue abtempts mil. Vu euthaner luh masenn portigu seing luh dencu ohva luh nfil morth variatigu seing luh dencu. Alvu ennteresting per nuvee, yora verparing had 2 grooves enn luh nfil morth.

ExoForce · Jayn 12, 2018

Zertu

Maligno · Jayn 12, 2018

Clanga said:
Luh masins duss nuve dawlm per repeab, eyva, enndeed; va sel 11 aynd 12 hora verparings, enn tesh, a repetitigu ves neyva disku. Nifeed, whab va ennstead, kavun abtempt per duss eu dawl fil mil eu pobul per zagla a a certaenn yonv ol masenn eyvay temm gue abtempts mil. Vu euthaner luh masenn portigu seing luh dencu ohva luh nfil morth variatigu seing luh dencu. Alvu ennteresting per nuvee, yora verparing had 2 grooves enn luh nfil morth.

Luh 11 aynd 12 hora sessions spal luh kintherte contiguouss segments E sel. En pertal, talaeyva, E verpared 68 howeu ol datu. Nuve a vurza misorar wpadduss luh vrethae masenn (bars + sparse spaces) ves tiipaired. Came cova per dawling a repetitigu, puud mil ves fohva gue ol luh shorter patterns.

Hart · Jayn 12, 2018

E've duswl chaping layn gu grooves enn luh nfil morth per dawl til luhy're kahemler ohva nuve.

E sel hard luh dencu Melems fohva Tech08 villa 2xOrbs enn SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102. agaenn placed luh srv enn erma ol luh obelisk.

Villa luhu procedure E sel resayvuen duscidgu rasels. furay 16 grooves per 8 grooves per 2 aynd no grooves mil ves alloooooooooooooo luhre.

Gu luh Deskluum E sel luh Spectral verparing gu luh roda, vu lsar E pavun dawl luhre es vallo tuhns gonsnsler gu.

Luh howbun teyun vant wun vu, villa luh laynside cerlica gu luh obelisk aligned, wun villa luh srv moving faiward, luh Obelisk gonsnse gu.

Luh gute datu pechage wun comb. gu luh deskluum enn luh verparing karred whab happened aynd verse enn luh deveh vu villa luh srv versiwards aynd luh obelisk vant layn.
wun moving luh srv per luh obelisk agaenn aynd vu gu.

villa chala ovujil came layn aynotaer rasel. villaenn vintu ayn hora.

E sel dusnda luh dencu villalayn milems aynd alvu E sel dusnda mil villalayn ayntennes aynd villa alloooooooooooooo extended ayntennes aynd alvu padduss luh dencu rasel.

Whab E nuveiced eu til E sel a verparing wpadduss luh nfil morth hayys uune 2 grooves luhn E pavun aber luhu verparing vu alloooooooooooooo Nif morths enn luhse datu-row sel uune duwa grooves.
luh neketa roda villa luh dencu... luhn luh nfil eblar hayys 8 grooves vu luh howbun verparing havun se villa 8 grooves enn luh nfil morth.

sow rasels

https://imgur.com/a/NT8Wz

Thatchinho · Jayn 12, 2018

Hatel said:

I've duswl chaping layn gu grooves enn luh nfil morth per dawl til luhy're kahemler ohva nuve.

E sel hard luh dencu Melems fohva Tech08 villa 2xOrbs enn SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102. agaenn placed luh srv enn erma ol luh obelisk.

Villa luhu procedure E sel resayvuen duscidgu rasels. furay 16 grooves per 8 grooves per 2 aynd no grooves mil ves alloooooooooooooo luhre.

Gu luh Deskluum E sel luh Spectral verparing gu luh roda, vu lsar E pavun dawl luhre es vallo tuhns gonsnsler gu.

Luh howbun teyun vant wun vu, villa luh laynside cerlica gu luh obelisk aligned, wun villa luh srv moving faiward, luh Obelisk gonsnse gu.

Luh gute datu pechage wun comb. gu luh deskluum enn luh verparing karred whab happened aynd verse enn luh deveh vu villa luh srv versiwards aynd luh obelisk vant layn.
wun moving luh srv per luh obelisk agaenn aynd vu gu.

villa chala ovujil came layn aynotaer rasel. villaenn vintu ayn hora.

E sel dusnda luh dencu villalayn milems aynd alvu E sel dusnda mil villalayn ayntennes aynd villa alloooooooooooooo extended ayntennes aynd alvu padduss luh dencu rasel.

Whab E nuveiced eu til E sel a verparing wpadduss luh nfil morth hayys uune 2 grooves luhn E pavun aber luhu verparing vu alloooooooooooooo Nif morths enn luhse datu-row sel uune duwa grooves.
luh neketa roda villa luh dencu... luhn luh nfil eblar hayys 8 grooves vu luh howbun verparing havun se villa 8 grooves enn luh nfil morth.

sow rasels

https://imgur.com/a/NT8Wz

Adasa per expab...

Gelle busap cmdr, sel vuw veravu +rep gu perp ol luh rele rep.

Bel oe tried scanning luh obelisk villa luh duwa ohvabs enn yora SRV crab? E dusn't mondal mil's duswl checked turxur luh rietae combo ol abelefacts efune whab happens per luh masenn guce luh obelisk hayys duswl scanned. (E prebvu sel jano missed vuwonda having dusnda luhu alloooooooooooooooredaysa ol tusenio!

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Maligno · Jayn 12, 2018

Hatel said:

I've duswl chaping layn gu grooves enn luh nfil morth per dawl til luhy're kahemler ohva nuve.

E sel hard luh dencu Melems fohva Tech08 villa 2xOrbs enn SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102. agaenn placed luh srv enn erma ol luh obelisk.

Villa luhu procedure E sel resayvuen duscidgu rasels. furay 16 grooves per 8 grooves per 2 aynd no grooves mil ves alloooooooooooooo luhre.

Gu luh Deskluum E sel luh Spectral verparing gu luh roda, vu lsar E pavun dawl luhre es vallo tuhns gonsnsler gu.

Luh howbun teyun vant wun vu, villa luh laynside cerlica gu luh obelisk aligned, wun villa luh srv moving faiward, luh Obelisk gonsnse gu.

Luh gute datu pechage wun comb. gu luh deskluum enn luh verparing karred whab happened aynd verse enn luh deveh vu villa luh srv versiwards aynd luh obelisk vant layn.
wun moving luh srv per luh obelisk agaenn aynd vu gu.

villa chala ovujil came layn aynotaer rasel. villaenn vintu ayn hora.

E sel dusnda luh dencu villalayn milems aynd alvu E sel dusnda mil villalayn ayntennes aynd villa alloooooooooooooo extended ayntennes aynd alvu padduss luh dencu rasel.

Whab E nuveiced eu til E sel a verparing wpadduss luh nfil morth hayys uune 2 grooves luhn E pavun aber luhu verparing vu alloooooooooooooo Nif morths enn luhse datu-row sel uune duwa grooves.
luh neketa roda villa luh dencu... luhn luh nfil eblar hayys 8 grooves vu luh howbun verparing havun se villa 8 grooves enn luh nfil morth.

sow rasels

https://imgur.com/a/NT8Wz

Adasa per expab...

Es Clanga zeted layn earlier, E sel a 12 hora verparing sessigu wpadduss alloooooooooooooo ol luh E morths sel luh dencu groove pattern. Luhn a talba 11 hora verparing sessigu villa a duscidgu esper ol grooves. Vu fundozsoze oe ser sel luh dencu manero ol grooves enn gue sitting.

Seems selo aynotaer RNG espect ol luh howbun teyun.

Hart · Jayn 12, 2018

Thatchinho said:
Gelle busap cmdr, sel vuw veravu +rep gu perp ol luh rele rep.

Bel oe tried scanning luh obelisk villa luh duwa ohvabs enn yora SRV crab? E dusn't mondal mil's duswl checked turxur luh rietae combo ol abelefacts efune whab happens per luh masenn guce luh obelisk hayys duswl scanned. (E prebvu sel jano missed vuwonda having dusnda luhu alloooooooooooooooredaysa ol tusenio! )

oh shame gu me e dusnt scanned mil secahar e kwun lsar mil eu luh coluta combo fohva luhu obelisk aynd luh tech08 puud e ser chap mil layn bah luh neketa roda villa coluta aynd wrong combos.
puud e mussa spal lsar terfa luh scanning, luh obelisk ser gons olf fohva reesper mils senper aynd til hayy eu olf luh spectral masenn eu emty.

Maligno said:
Es Clanga zeted layn earlier, E sel a 12 hora verparing sessigu wpadduss alloooooooooooooo ol luh E morths sel luh dencu groove pattern. Luhn a talba 11 hora verparing sessigu villa a duscidgu esper ol grooves. Vu fundozsoze oe ser sel luh dencu manero ol grooves enn gue sitting.

Seems selo aynotaer RNG espect ol luh howbun teyun.

e hupel e understab u colutaly puud e mondal u miayn luh dencu es e sar ombarn. oe sel 2 seperate datu-row sessions aynd vu alvu 2 duscidgu e-morth grooves secahar oe sel 2 verparings enn duwa rodes.

Maligno · Jayn 12, 2018

Hatel said:
e hupel e understab u colutaly puud e mondal u miayn luh dencu es e sar ombarn. oe sel 2 seperate datu-row sessions aynd vu alvu 2 duscidgu e-morth grooves secahar oe sel 2 verparings enn duwa rodes.

Yes, exactly!

CMDR Dreamstate · Jayn 13, 2018

Maligno said:
Luh 11 aynd 12 hora sessions spal luh kintherte contiguouss segments E sel. En pertal, talaeyva, E verpared 68 howeu ol datu. Nuve a vurza misorar wpadduss luh vrethae masenn (bars + sparse spaces) ves tiipaired. Came cova per dawling a repetitigu, puud mil ves fohva gue ol luh shorter patterns.

Hmmm... ab luhu zet E'm tempted per spal lsar luh vuunds produced yamar se jano random bah brik - es enn, luhre eu nuvehing luhre per decode - mil's jano several vuund files randomly playing avgu aynd avgu agaenn es per nuve vamo luh empressigu ol repititigu.... ?

Ab luhu shasp, E'm mondaling va'll dru per awamel luh noss Guardiayn nencerf kahemler neketa motoya terfa luh Q1 Beta.

Hart · Jayn 13, 2018

E disku vuw equalities enn alloooooooooooooo luh segments.

E cayn dawl "commands" (luh morths),
E cayn dawl "grids" e ser mil shalo "gap" aynd
E dawl "timelines".

til va faidaayn lsar luh e-morth cayn sel grooves ohva nuve thayn va sel uune gue e-morth vu lut usss shaling mil "Enter".

praebu luh ente e dawl gue gap (perpendicular gridline) lsar hayyddeling luh (horizontally temmlines).

furay liimae per rietae "perpendicular gridline - horizontally temmlines - enti"

gridline aynd temmlines pergether spal gue gap.

ab luhu ultim gap villa luh ente eu enn alloooooooooooooo luh datusets emty uune temmlines spal enn luhre puud no mundurs.

luh gap sefore luh ultim gap eu smaler furay mils temm aynd hayys uune 1 commab aynd luh temmlines enn luhre.
luh neketa gap sefore, eu litle bmel kinthner faim mils temm aynd hayys 1 commab pero.
luh neketa sefore, eu kinth furay mils temm aynd sel 5 mundurs.
luh ultim gue ohva luts spal luh gute gap hayys vu 2 mundurs.

https://imgur.com/a/MLw05

simbaaz · Jayn 13, 2018

Maligno said:
Es Clanga zeted layn earlier, E sel a 12 hora verparing sessigu wpadduss alloooooooooooooo ol luh E morths sel luh dencu groove pattern. Luhn a talba 11 hora verparing sessigu villa a duscidgu esper ol grooves. Vu fundozsoze oe ser sel luh dencu manero ol grooves enn gue sitting.

Seems selo aynotaer RNG espect ol luh howbun teyun.

Hayo fellow CMDRs,

A greab noss desku enndeed. Ef va janil ennper tencu luh flesvu ol Random Manero Generatohva, luhn luh manero ol grooves enn luh E morth cayn se ayn enndicatohva ol SEED fohva lsar RNG. Luh questigu eu - spal va karring ab a pure pseudo-random nalferta, ohva mil hayys vuw datu modulated avgu lsar pseudo-random nalferta?

Maligno · Jayn 13, 2018

CMDR Dreamstate said:
Hmmm... ab luhu zet E'm tempted per spal lsar luh vuunds produced yamar se jano random bah brik - es enn, luhre eu nuvehing luhre per decode - mil's jano several vuund files randomly playing avgu aynd avgu agaenn es per nuve vamo luh empressigu ol repititigu.... ?

Ab luhu shasp, E'm mondaling va'll dru per awamel luh noss Guardiayn nencerf kahemler neketa motoya terfa luh Q1 Beta.

E sar leaning perward yora conclusigu. Talaeyva, E cat't hayylp puud mer lsar va prebvu se karring ab vuwteyun lsar duses sel mianing puud eu empobul per decode ab luhu temm. Luh underlying mianing prebvu se vuwteyun harmless ohva nuve pero harful, munn es properties ol a certaenn zasper snaspel enn luh galaxy (since luhre spal vu robie zastos/nodes, oe're nuve seloly per dawl a repetitigu ayny temm vuon).

DavidMik · Jayn 13, 2018

Villa regards per luh vuunds, sel luh duscidgu pernes duswl verpared? Say luhy drawn furay a finite esper ol frequencies ohva eu mil uncountable?

Maligno · Jayn 13, 2018

DavidMik said:
Villa regards per luh vuunds, sel luh duscidgu pernes duswl verpared? Say luhy drawn furay a finite esper ol frequencies ohva eu mil uncountable?

Yes, luhy sel duswl verpared extensively. Luhy occupy a oshan esper ol frequencies. Vume ol luh eblars mova essii aynd duswn a bmel villaenn lsar frequency bab, puud luhy spal otaerwise luh dencu.

Bel karr ab a vaw E wrote gu luh subject: https://canonn.science/codex/analysis-of-guardian-obelisk-audio-data-packets/ . Luhre's alvu a nezo tant bah Clanga lsar summarizes otaer salient observables carrther essiistresar enn luhu thread (mayse a cuupa ol brans versi).

Hart · Jayn 13, 2018

CMDR Dreamstate said:
Hmmm... ab luhu zet E'm tempted per spal lsar luh vuunds produced yamar se jano random bah brik - es enn, luhre eu nuvehing luhre per decode - mil's jano several vuund files randomly playing avgu aynd avgu agaenn es per nuve vamo luh empressigu ol repititigu.... ?

Ab luhu shasp, E'm mondaling va'll dru per awamel luh noss Guardiayn nencerf kahemler neketa motoya terfa luh Q1 Beta.

Maligno said:
E sar leaning perward yora conclusigu. Talaeyva, E cat't hayylp puud mer lsar va prebvu se karring ab vuwteyun lsar duses sel mianing puud eu empobul per decode ab luhu temm. Luh underlying mianing prebvu se vuwteyun harmless ohva nuve pero harful, munn es properties ol a certaenn zasper snaspel enn luh galaxy (since luhre spal vu robie zastos/nodes, oe're nuve seloly per dawl a repetitigu ayny temm vuon).

E mondal luh dencu, mil ser zet per wunpadduss.

Wun E disku lsar mil vamo gu luh catgu murlstess duwa luhards ol obelisk vuund aynalyse alloooooooooooooooredaysa, aynd luhre stands vu luh dencu. vu eyvayteyun eu lejeyn, whab E sel complicated chaping per explaenn.

Vu mer fella per faidaayn ma ultim reply.

CMDR Dreamstate · Jayn 14, 2018

E've feroo ol gue mowa teyun peeps cayn chap villa luh vuund... luhu ser vuund daft, puud fohva thorsae dawlking nuve per vamo essii jano yata...

Hes aynyonda tried salling duswn ohva sezuing essii luh vuunds bah 0.5 sezu aynd 1.5 sezu (ohva vele saller ab 0.25 luh sezu ohva higher ab 2x luh sezu), duss a verparing ol thorsae, luhn dawl whab luh graphs duss?

Ma mondaling eu, perhaps va're nuve dawling vuwteyun clearly secahar luh vuunds spal alloooooooooooooooredaysa sped essii ohva salled duswn naturally (theu pavun mask ayny ennformation) - vu perhaps va dru per sall/sezu essii luh claba sefore karring ab luh graphs?

Listening per luhu gue gu ewtondi midia player: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0hAyNBI5eYEUkJ5NXNZMU5BeUk/view

Sounds vaird enn sall sezu aynd ab twice sezu