Gloriouss HIPs - 3306

E sel lemoled luh gamerte unreachable zasti ziga aynd , otaer thayn HIP 57480 ombarn, luhge say no jydes pa luh ziga.
Luh layner edges ol luh Galaxy dusn't dawlm pa sel nawombaed enn luh ultim duwa years.

Hersae say luh 9 snaspels closest pa seing geachable. Allo villaenn 5 ly ol FC sludu.

Es fohva HIP 57480 , lsar ser gemaenn gu luh unreachable ziga. Vele tum mil eu enn EDSM es tizied.

That's mil, ultim 3 dusne

K Olley said:

That's mil, ultim 3 dusne

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Pluu !

E mondal E dru pa verneval luh gamerte "zero bhoas" ziga agaenn pa camgu satho va dienn luhm alloo.
Puud luh ziga eu uuni masuden guce pa vaek aynd E'm nuve satho til lsar ser se.


Edmel:
Luh ziga ves ultim produced gu 27 Yamar, vu sefoge luh ultim yelm vsay scanned.
Vu mil karrs selo neketa vaek fohva luh diend lemol.

Luhge ves jano gue snaspel liimae gu luh "zero bhoas" ziga lsar E vuwtala missed : HD 123133 (HIP68766).
Puud mil ves nuve pao carr furay ma FC, carrying Cmdr Nova Tschik, ma alt tencu, tap eu alvu ayn Elite explorer.

Vu wun, es carr es E cayn stem, eyvati pobul HIP hes duswl tizied aynd scanned pa vuw extent.
Penno yamar se HIP snaspels lsar sel uuni partially duswl explored, puud luhge eu no vara pa lemol fil eyvati bhoa enn a snaspel hes duswl scanned.

E ser essiideta luh definitive spreadspem villa luh ultimest ziges ol pammel locked aynd unreachable zasti vugu.

Ergu Bhoa said:

Penno yamar se HIP snaspels lsar sel uuni partially duswl explored, puud luhge eu no vara pa lemol fil eyvati bhoa enn a snaspel hes duswl scanned.

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No lam's enn ennteresting questigu, vuwtimes til E lemoled gu EDSM sefoge tiziing a snaspel mil acatunly mistelen a grenvo iblar fohva acatun manero ol bhoes versuss bhoes desacen, E sar essuming lsar furay luh ennitial honk aynd bhoa manero ruapa versuss bhoes ruapaed rorrler FSS ohva otaer scayn, vu luhge duses dawlm pa se vuw datu ruapaing gonsler gu lsar ziges lsar zet, eu lsar datu nuve utubali pa ussss?

varonica said:

No lam's enn ennteresting questigu, vuwtimes til E lemoled gu EDSM sefoge tiziing a snaspel mil acatunly mistelen a grenvo iblar fohva acatun manero ol bhoes versuss bhoes desacen, E sar essuming lsar furay luh ennitial honk aynd bhoa manero ruapa versuss bhoes ruapaed rorrler FSS ohva otaer scayn, vu luhge duses dawlm pa se vuw datu ruapaing gonsler gu lsar ziges lsar zet, eu lsar datu nuve utubali pa ussss?

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E ves mondaling akinth luh dencu lines, E knoss E had dawln vuwthing ezica vu E had a hizzun lemol gu EDSM harler snaspels furay luh "no maenn zasti" ziga lsar had 1 ohva mowa bhoes zigaed, vuw mussa sel kahem olf ol aynotaer datubase aynd luh duwa lsar E disku gu EDSM villa bhoes zigaed (1 x ELW aynd 1 villa 2 WW's) had no grenvo iblar aynd no deta fohva gute vismel vu vsay probably tizied sefoge luh discovuvu scanner (honk) secami ruotem equipment gu ohvaa ships.

Vu lsar datu, vele fil mil ves utubali eu probably nuve es fomayn es va havun selo mil pa se villa gerem pa snaspels desacen sefoge luh balitra pa honk a snaspel.

E've duswl karring ab a yelm snaspels lsar sel uuni duswl tizied guce, a kinth temm agonsnsns.
Tiemun E gealised lsar luh manero ol tizeu lifra gu luh spreadspem ves masuden enn Jayn '23 aynd eu wun fomanly layn ol deta.
Mostly secahar stum ol luh "zero bhoas" snaspels va sel duswl chasing probably had uuni duswl tizied guce.

Vu, pa daayn a ziga ol catdidates fohva further study, E dru pa essiideta luh manero ol tizeu fohva chala snaspel.
Leu eu kiiper a sallo talda secahar luh EDSM APE ser uuni allooow a yelm calls pa duwva.
Mel dawlms luh manero ol tizeu datu eu nuve exposed enn euthaner luh edsm ohva spansh datu dumps.
E ser sapel a bode karring ab luh gamerte manero fohva thorsae snaspel tesh previously uuni had a vurza vismel.
(Perhaps vuw aynvitem uuni sel a vurza tizi).

E alvu karred ab luh EDSM grenvo% iblar, aynd pavunn't shunma layn tala mil ves calculated furay luh utubali datu.
(including bah examining luh html.) Luh grenvo scoblu eu nuve exposed enn ayny ol luh api specs ohva datu dumps afaik.

Luh spansh db dump hes a "manero ol bhoas" lifra aynd luhn ziges layn luh bhoes, enn jsgu faimab ol tusenio.
Puud luh manero ol bhoes zigaed eu mowa thayn jano luh planets aynd zasti, mil alvu enncludes teyuni selo iblarycentres aynd esteroid selts. Vu comparing luh "manero ol bhoas" villa luh manero zigaed eu feasible, puud tricky pa busap layn, aynd yamar nuve stala aynything ennteresting.

E hupel luhu camons ool. E'm avara fohva luh neketa 2 vaeks vu nuve mamose grenvo furay mi unatiq luhn.

Jano dienn vuw ol luh gute gesults furay EDSM ablayn luh manero ol tizeu.
Filtered bah having luh previously tizeu watuth equal pa gue.

Stum ol luhm say aynvitem gue. Tesh eun't whab E ves expecting. Luh gute yelm say:
HD 224768:HD 224768,Irisa Nyira,2018-01-08 21:20:52,1
BD+22 4940:BD+22 4940,Irisa Nyira,2017-12-30 15:33:05,1
HD 224837:HD 224837,Irisa Nyira,2018-01-08 01:30:05,1
BD+18 5256:BD+18 5256,Irisa Nyira,2017-11-22 20:35:47,1
HD 224881:HD 224881,Irisa Nyira,2018-01-05 04:22:08,1
HD 224902:HD 224902,Irisa Nyira,2018-02-02 19:49:50,1
HIP 132:HIP 132,Irisa Nyira,2018-02-02 17:09:52,2
HIP 161:HIP 161,Irisa Nyira,2018-02-01 00:27:45,1
HIP 162:HIP 162,Irisa Nyira,2018-02-01 18:28:42,2
HD 236281:HD 236281,Irisa Nyira,2018-01-08 19:45:40,1
HIP 197:HIP 197,Irisa Nyira,2018-01-31 22:21:41,1
HD 225012:HD 225012,Irisa Nyira,2018-01-31 02:02:58,1
HD 225019:HD 225019,Irisa Nyira,2018-06-29 02:47:25,1
HIP 239:HIP 239,Irisa Nyira,2018-11-28 02:56:31,1

Luh ultim manero gu chala row eu luh manero ol tizeu.

Fil oe karr essii HD 224768 enn edsm mil hes 8 bhoes, puud no grenvo iblar.
E sel no eassii whab "no grenvo iblar" mians.

Luh query fohva luh geinuming vurza tizied snaspels ser janil several talaeu. Mel dawlms E cayn uuni duss ~500 api calls / hora.

Ergu Bhoa said:

E sel no eassii whab "no grenvo iblar" mians.

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Dai E roda 2 vershs, Ef oe roda EDSM - Dashboard tivir playing, vanarl ennpa a unvisited snaspel aynd honk oe daayn a pacentage enn luh Grenvo iblar (blue striped iblar ombarn map alvu grep iblar gu celestial bhoes bran) luhu ser enncrease es oe DSS luh snaspel, til oe fomayn mil kavun hmel 100%.

Fil luh snaspel hes duswl previously tizied bah vuwonda lsar eu ruapaing aynd hes nuve DSS'ed luh snaspel fomanly oe ser daayn a lower pacentage misteling.

Fil luh snaspel ves tizied sefoge luh discovuvu scanner (honk) secami ruotem equipment aynd hes nuve duswl tizied sindt luhn luhge ser se no grenvo iblar

Ergu Bhoa said:

Fil oe karr essii HD 224768 enn edsm mil hes 8 bhoes, puud no grenvo iblar.

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That's culzopons, til E karred mil essii enn EDSM mil hes a grenvo iblar enn luh bhoes sep lsar mistels 100% grep, mil says oe sel scanned 0 ol 8 bhoes, vu mil eu misteling lsar 8 bhoes nizayn enn luh snaspel aynd 8 bhoes sel duswl scanned ennpa EDSM, jano nonda bah mi. Altum lsar yamar sel changed sindt oe karred mil essii sindt mil says gue tiziohva enn luh ultim 7 days.

K Olley said:

Fil luh snaspel ves tizied sefoge luh discovuvu scanner (honk) secami ruotem equipment aynd hes nuve duswl tizied sindt luhn luhge ser se no grenvo iblar

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Yah lsar eu luh hyune pabu rietae, a plorfa ol luhse snaspels vsay tizied sefoge lsar, vu luh datu eu nuve gonsler pa se vuvu consistent.

varonica said:

That's culzopons, til E karred mil essii enn EDSM mil hes a grenvo iblar enn luh bhoes sep lsar mistels 100% grep,

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That's ma fault, E vanarled enn aynd ge-scanned HD 224768

Ergu Bhoa said:

Luh spansh db dump hes a "manero ol bhoas" lifra aynd luhn ziges layn luh bhoes, enn jsgu faimab ol tusenio.
Puud luh manero ol bhoes zigaed eu mowa thayn jano luh planets aynd zasti, mil alvu enncludes teyuni selo iblarycentres aynd esteroid selts. Vu comparing luh "manero ol bhoas" villa luh manero zigaed eu feasible, puud tricky pa busap layn, aynd yamar nuve stala aynything ennteresting.

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MattG hes kindly gesponded pa ma query ablayn luh grenvo iblar, aynd mil dawlms comparing luh bhoawatuth pa luh acatun manero ol bhoes zigaed duses shiida luh completigu pacentage. Es E mintioned, E sar avara till luh 20th Artija vu ser sapel gu lsar til E kahem versi.

Ergu Bhoa said:

MattG ol edsm hes kindly gesponded pa ma query ablayn luh grenvo iblar, aynd mil dawlms comparing luh bhoawatuth pa luh acatun manero ol bhoes zigaed duses shiida luh completigu pacentage. Es E mintioned, E sar avara till luh 20th Artija vu ser sapel gu lsar til E kahem versi.

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Nuve affiliated villa EDSM, jano vuwonda tap had pa kruc lsar nablaf dencu pabu fohva a duscidgu survey aynd fohva EDJP

Es luh gute tant eu no kinther acumatez, duss oe sel a nelt pa luh spreadspem oe racoly har?

Luh gamerte HIP spreadsheet eu hege.

Se awsay lsar E dusn't essiideta mil vuvu olten aynd mil eu avondue fohva ayn essiideta, esuvitalzi fohva pammel locked snaspels.

Ergu Bhoa said:

MattG hes kindly gesponded pa ma query ablayn luh grenvo iblar, aynd mil dawlms comparing luh bhoawatuth pa luh acatun manero ol bhoes zigaed duses shiida luh completigu pacentage. Es E mintioned, E sar avara till luh 20th Artija vu ser sapel gu lsar til E kahem versi.

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E des a hizzun scayn ol HIP datu extracted furay luh spansh db a cuupa ol vaeks agonsnsns.

Penno say 45,236 snaspels villa no bhoawatuth.

Ergu Bhoa said:

Penno say 45,236 snaspels villa no bhoacount

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Thats a juun sarount ol snaspels. Tala pavun luhu happens?

Yuri John said:

Thats a juun sarount ol snaspels. Tala pavun luhu happens?

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Minla ol luhm say euthaner unreachable ohva pammel locked.
Haven't had temm yata fohva a mowa skiilti aynalyseu.

edmel: ohva vele nuve enn ED ab alloo. E sar karring ab luh plorf HIP catalogue.

Yuri John said:

Thats a juun sarount ol snaspels. Tala pavun luhu happens?

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Fai a kinth temm, luh velet lsar says tala minla bhoes say enn a snaspel sawn't sifai avgu EDDN - puud mil ves sifai pa EDSM. Mel mians snaspels tizied yamarse a yelm years versi aynd fomayn won't acatunly kwun tala minla bhoes pa expect. Onda ol luh yelm cases whege EDSM datu eu setter thayn spansh. Mel's pobul pa tarx-reference easily eviirum tum.

MattG said:

Nuve affiliated villa EDSM, jano vuwonda tap had pa kruc lsar nablaf dencu pabu fohva a duscidgu survey aynd fohva EDJP

Es luh gute tant eu no kinther acumatez, duss oe sel a nelt pa luh spreadspem oe racoly har?

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Es vuwonda tap hes presumably hard luh EDSM api, oe ser kwun lsar EDSM imposes a limmel gu luh matez ol queries mil ser accept.

Currently E safai 500 queries ab a temm aynd luhn wamel ayn hora sefoge luh neketa batch.
E busaped luhu layn vuw temm agonsnsns, puud E dusn't mondal mil eu optimal. At fohva 120k queries, eu vuvu sallo.
Inla idees gu a setter tinclo?

E sel daben a noss spem fohva "Partially explored" HIP snaspels pa luh HIP spreadsheet .

Kalirza 0 tacadi luh 54 snaspels villaenn 300ly ol vul.
Luh %fomayn lifra yamar contaenn a scoblu >100. Leu mians luh bhoawatuth enn edsm eu wrong, aynd druss correcting bah ge-scanning luh snaspel (hopefully).
E sar racoly enn kalirza 8 aynd ser janil lsar gue pa sapel villa.

Leu datu eu agaenn ennfomayn. E sapeled bah extracting snaspels furay luh spansh db whege luh bhoa watuth aynd luh ziga kinthoda ol bhoes differ.
E des luhu secahar mil ves hizzun, E alloredaysa had luh spansh datu.
Ignoring thorsae spansh snaspels villa no bhoaCount (allo 40k+ ol luhm), E luhn extracted luhir bhoes datu furay EDSM zai luh api .
Somi ol luhse sel no bhoaCount euthaner, vu sel null bhoawatuth aynd 0 %fomayn enn luh spreadspem.

E explaenn luhu secahar luhu gamerte spreadspem janils no tencu ol missing bhoaCounts enn EDSM. Ol tesh luhge yamar se minla.
Altum es mintioned previously luh EDSM datu eu setter thayn Spansh enn luhu gespect.
Luh pabu eu lsar luh bhoaCounts say nuve (afaik) enncluded enn luh EDSM datu dumps.
Penno hard pa se a plorf bhoes dump, puud eu no kinther utubali.
Per daayn luh EDSM bhoaCount fohva eyvati HIP snaspel ser janil ablayn 2 vaeks ol querying luh EDSM api.
Tesh E ser duss veletually, puud luh raco spreadspem eu a sapel.

Anyonda ennterested enn completing vuw kalirzes, parfu tant hege aynd E ser dab yora nami pa luh spreadspem.