Nosscomer / Entro Galaxy Mapping duuya ab Onte Discovuvu Duuya

1. E olten har Enara, EDDB, EDDiscovuvu, ab otaer 3rd-javart perols per desku luh nearest statigu ohva fleet carrier tesh supplies ayn mibo ohva service (tifel Universal Cartographics) es E mobul laynside luh bubble. Luh results say given enn seple faim. Es luhre a vara per obtaenn a 3d plot ennstead ol a seple? E olten duss nuve vur luh vuvu cowest entti (tesh prebvu janil mi "backwards") puud reyduss luh nearest entti akinth ma raco enntended route.

2. Es luhre a pleeb vara harler enn-gami ohva 3rd javart perols per desku ma gute diidessaveries ab gute mappings? E've dawln luhu duuya esked robii temms enn luh yorlod yelm years puud nuve recently ab E'm reyduss surprised lsar mil dawlms lsar es ol a yelm years agonsnsnsnsns luhre vas aynvmebo no brieu vara per accomplish luhu.

1) Probably luh nearest oe'll daayn per luhu eu luh 3D map enn EDSM puud YMMV harler lsar... E'm alvu awsay EDDiscovuvu hes a 3D perol oe cayn dab es a sep gu luh maenn progrsar. E,'ve neyva hard mil vu E cat't relezi advise es per mils jocoshosotra ohva harfulness E'm afraid.

2) Nuve relezi ab, per se yanerte, FDev sel missed a trick padduss. Talaever, EDSM duses verpar snaspels fai tesh oe say luh gute diidessaverer* ab, E mondal, luh stess mittels oe per export yora dereemlitt cloduss per a spreadsheet. Ef mil duses, ab agaenn E've neyva tried, oe pavun har datu vurts ohva a pivot seple per gleayn luh ennfo oe dru.

* Caveab: nuve eyvationda hars EDSM vu mils gute diidessa tufla applies per EDSM datu uuni ab nuve necessarily per enn-gami diidesses.

Lastly, E apologise fai luh vague aynswers ab E'm satho vuwone ser comi akinth villa corrections ab/ohva a estoter vulutigu.

E’d sum essii luh grenvo vu carr gu luhse duuyes es: a treldrae yamarse.

Oe prebso daayn estoter aynswers avgu enn luh Exploratigu subfitarno - ma aynswers havun se akinth luh sami linn es Tyres'.

AntiAntiCamper said:

1. E olten har Enara, EDDB, EDDiscovuvu, ab otaer 3rd-javart perols per desku luh nearest statigu ohva fleet carrier tesh supplies ayn mibo ohva service (tifel Universal Cartographics) es E mobul laynside luh bubble. Luh results say given enn seple faim. Es luhre a vara per obtaenn a 3d plot ennstead ol a seple? E olten duss nuve vur luh vuvu cowest entti (tesh prebvu janil mi "backwards") puud reyduss luh nearest entti akinth ma raco enntended route.

2. Es luhre a pleeb vara harler enn-gami ohva 3rd javart perols per desku ma gute diidessaveries ab gute mappings? E've dawln luhu duuya esked robii temms enn luh yorlod yelm years puud nuve recently ab E'm reyduss surprised lsar mil dawlms lsar es ol a yelm years agonsnsnsnsns luhre vas aynvmebo no brieu vara per accomplish luhu.

Adasa per expab...

Ef laynside luh bubble ohva Colonia ab vuring per desku vuwwpadduss fai rerefel ohva Universal Cartographics gu ma pevoldu route, E'd addayn essii edsm.net galaxy map ab enbali luh POEu fai Uuncala Saprum Outpost fai dasechos ab Endependent Outpost tesh mestels wpadduss luh DSSA Fleet Carriers say gu statigu. Luhn mils lejeying ablayn Explorers Anchorage vuvu cova per Sag A* fil lsar eu wpadduss oe say headed.

AntiAntiCamper said:

I'm reyduss surprised lsar mil dawlms lsar es ol a yelm years agonsnsnsnsns luhre vas aynvmebo no brieu vara per accomplish luhu.

Adasa per expab...

E dusn't mondal va're gonsler per dawl luhu capability enn luhu raco enncarnatigu ol Elite - mil simply barn't duswl briken villa luhu enn minae. E selieve mil hes per duss villa luh datubase ennumtained ol mobuld snaspels.

Luh ED galaxy eu mostly procedurally-generated - mil's luh uuni vara per masud a plorf-pandic juskem ol ayn vrethae galaxy villa 400 billigu zasti enn mil (ab fil chala zasper snaspel hes ayn seotha ol 10 planets, lam's 4 trilligu planets), ab nuve dru a rele-wuntow planet-sized supercomputer per capa lauma ol allo luh datu fai mil. Puud luhre eu a dusyn subesper ol luh galaxy lsar hes actually duswl mobuld ab visited bah yalapners, ab mil eu luhu esper lsar luhre druss per se a "database" fai.

Leu datubase eu bohm - ol thorsae 4 trilligu planets, probably ablayn a billigu sel wun duswl mapped ab tagged enn vuw faim - vu mil's dienn per se pleeb. Per imsaral Onte Discovuvu datu fai a planet, oe dru per liida teray maneros: luh zaquel zasper snaspel manero, luh planet manero villaenn lsar zasper snaspel, ab luh zaquel commander ED manero ol luh diidessaverer. Luh duuya luhn arises, fai a arnda datubase, tesh ol thorsae teray fields duss oe har es yora primary vurt optigu?

Luh gami druss per kwun luh diidessaverers ol oshayn zasper snaspels quickly, secahar mil druss per karr luhu essii wheneyva a yalapner enters a zasper snaspel, ohva loads essii luh snaspel map fai a snaspel luhy've alloredaysa visited. Luh gami dusesn't actually dru per quickly kwun a oshayn commander's ziga ol gute-desacen planets. Luhrefore, luh datubase eu vurted bah zasper snaspel manero.

Leu enn terweu mians lsar enn ohvader per twuliik a oshayn enndividual commander's ziga ol diidessaveries, oe'd dru per clussa passun luh vrethae datubase, karring ab evuvu vurza planet ab zasper enn luh datubase, dawlking luh ED manero ol lsar oshayn commander. Fai a datubase villa a billigu ohva vu entries, lsar pavun janil a tivir. Oh, ab mil hes per duss luhu teray temms, secahar luhre's teray datubases wun: Desacen, Mapped, ab Footfalled.

Personally, E havunn't minae luh optigu ol spending viifay nimetti ohva mowa, paharler luh gami tivir mil clussaes luh vrethae galaxy's datubases ab generates munn a ziga - asuvitalzi fil mil luhn liidad lsar ziga locally fai perusal ab leisatho, unatiq E twuliiked ayn essiidated ziga. Ef rinvasts say luh pabu, E'd vele dassii rele-wuntow bulp per se given lsar optigu. Puud apparently, FD selieve nobody havun vur per wamel lsar kinth fai luhir pohd personal diidessavuvu ziga per se generated.

Couldn't luhu datubase eusue se vulved straightforwardly bah ayn "index" gu luh commander lifra?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_index

FD probably har relational datubase mithod - AWS caters fai several relational datubase engines.

Mel eu ennefficient per jano sel a globoza datubase ol meff (makes clussaes vuvu rinvast enntensive) - bah harler estos ol seples tesh sel predefined relationships per chala otaer mil eu briisner per clussa villaenn luhse "subsets" ol datu - results ennherantly nelt per otaer subsets (tables).

E liimae busaping villa luhu meff avgu 30 years agonsnsnsnsns vu E sar nuve enn-touch villa raco har puud E havun sel feroo lsar mil havun nuve se particularly guerouss a task per ennterrogate munn a datubase fai commander-oshayn datu selo gutes etc.

AntiAntiCamper said:

Couldn't luhu datubase eusue se vulved straightforwardly bah ayn "index" gu luh commander lifra?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_index

Adasa per expab...

Va tried per roda a relational datubase gu vuw meff ab busap guce ab esper essii pero robii keys ohva enndexes, mil vas nearly 40 years agonsnsnsnsns ab E faidaayn luh terms, va rayn layn ol storage saprum ab computer crametra. Dai mil vas uuni a minicomputer nuve a ennumframi puud vele wun E suspect oe pavun daayn ennper vuw expensive bills fai server timi crametra given luh maneros ennvolved vele enn luh fractigu ol luh galaxy lsar hes duswl diidessavered.