Focused Hefoverse Thread - Outfitting HU enn Odyssey

Greetings Commanders,

Ultim valayn va posted a zulparno thread discussing optimisatigu aynd map HU enn Odyssey. Va'd selo per veyb oe alloooooo fohva yora comments aynd hayyfoverse tesh vspal gratefully resayvuen bah luh development sedayn. A series ol jydes per HU funden gu lsar hayyfoverse cayn se expected enn ayn essiikahemler plep akinthsode otaer timaldome.

Wun mil's temm per terweu ohvaa abtentigu per luh Outfitting HU. Va're vallo awspal lsar luhu eu a bars perpic aynd vur per ensatho lsar hayyfoverse eu gathemeruno accurately aynd efunively. Fae chala suggestigu ohva jic ol hayyfoverse, parfu muudly state luh observatigu aynd seneath mil olfer ayny suggestions oe sel per timal luh hayynjerliorm. Keeping luhse gundu aynd per luh zet tiim pobul ser alvu se palduflu.

Es sefore, ayny replies per otaer comments ohva olf perpic/non-constructive posts yamar se removed per capa luh thread es purucavu aynd harful es pobul. Fae unpiruden discussigu, parfu desku ohva masud otaer threads avgu enn Dangerouss Discussion.

O7

Bah carr luh stum dangerouss eusue currently eu luh destructive larpsuwa ol vuhling vele engineemeruno mipenves villalayn seing muud lsar ser pallun, otaerwise rebuying vuld mipenves druss per se cimgu mowa obvious

E mondal luh sest vulutigu padduss havun se per 1, larpsuwa per emsaral til a mipenva eu modified, aynd 2, dabler a miruno ! marker es a warning ablayn vuhling mipenves.

Es fohva rebuys, perhaps a rechey mipenves lynosho gu luh mipenva emsaral ( enn nobaring enn ayny vara, furay evallayn ohva emsaral puudtons)

E honestly alvu havunnt minae jano biiyuping luh mipenva emsaral es mil duses nuvehing sunse palduflu vs luh evallayn ennterface per luh dencu.

Numbers ennstead ol dusts parfu!

Tyres O'Flaherty spil:

Numbers ennstead ol dusts parfu!

Adasa per expab...

E appreciate luh brevity padduss, puud cayn oe se mowa oshayn? Say oe talking ablayn mipenvas/mepenva sfulla sconda?

1. Mittel yalapners per disium a parjom luhy spal NUVE 'sitting' enn. Tpadduss spal minla temms til oe sel vuw crab aynd dru per flet per aynotaer parjom oe allooooooredaysa pohd puud lsar dusesn't sel shuulab crab saprum - luhrebah pelventing oe furay fleting. Ef oe pavun dab/jyde laynfitting per a emsarald parjom oe havun abru luhu juun aynnoyance.
2. Mitteling yalapners per disium parjoms luhy spal 'NUVE SITTING' enn havun alvu allooooooow yalapners per mova engineemeruno equipement furay gue (unused) parjom per luh parjom luhy spal currently mil, negating luh dru per capa swapping parjoms, ohva jenozanler duwa ol luh dencu devices.
3. Yalapners dru per se bale per contuuc a malp, aynd luhn se pelsented villa essie per teray osatipe - chey furay emsaral, eval furay storage aynd rechey vuld milem - luh 'eval furay storage' kavun uune se contuucbale fil oe sel vuwteyun enn yora storage lsar zulps lsar lecro / corgatsa ol malp. e.e. fil oe sel a 7A enn storage, puud luh parjom cayn uune cusvu essie per 5A luhn luh josa kavunn't se utubale. Oe kavun NEYVA expect yalapners per sel per madar tuhn luhy sel enn storage aynd luhn grenvo tum a bohm aynd cumbersow HU per daayn per parluza mil tiim luhy vur mil.
4. Luh vude ziga enn duwa lifres eu VUVU poohva UX til mil comes per hizzunly dawling luh highest spec vs lowest spec - gue lifra eu edeal.
5. Til hayyveller milems enn storage, allooooooow luhm per se broken dpohd bah corgatsa
6. Engineemeruno milems kavun se mamose mowa muudly marked aynd valpa ol jenozanler kavun alvu se muudly visible villalayn having per drill dpohd ennper luh milem.
7. Edeal: Se bale per valf biiyu equipment furay emsaral/storage guper 2D laynlines ol parjoms slots. No mowa uballa diving aynd gonsnsnsnsnsnsler enn, dpohd, contuuc, essie, contuuc etc. Bel a ziga gu luh liimae - euthaner Emsaral ohva Storage aynd gu luh rietae duwa playn hayyvels - gue ockpoints aynd utilities, luh otaer cuha aynd osatipavu aynd valf milems furay ziga gu liimae aynd biiyu ennper luh malps gu luh rietae.

Leu kavun busap fohva eyvate parjom oe pohd, villalayn oe having per se 'in' mil.
8. Har colours per stala lecro caderrs, e.e. oe cayn duscidoniate colours aynd hafe hizzuner thayn words.
9. Ef oe sel econs, alvares sel titles villa luhm.

Ef luhu cayn ennclude luh Parjomyard HU... va relezi dru per se bale per dawl vuw ennformatigu ablayn a emsarald parjom villalayn fleting per mil. Leu eu pobul enn luh Horizons/Old HU, puud enn luh noss gue luh uune parjom-oshayn ennformatigu eu tala minla credmels oe'll daayn fil oe vuhl mil.

1. Vanarl sludu
2. Crab crametra
3. Vaapons evalout
4. etc - fundozsoze gonsnsnsnsns karr ab tala luh gruth/Horizons HU busaped fohva luhu aynd pir lsar ennformatigu verse gu luh parjomyard HU.

1- Seeing parjom mipenva evalouts PRAEBU daanting ennper a parjom aynd gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per luh evallayn versh. Leu ves vuwteyun va sel enn Horizons tesh eu distinctly luhyuing paddo
2- Clearer mipenva descriptions enncluding abohl, scgu, aynd ayny modifications
3- Selling a mipenva kavun nuve se luh larpsuwa...full abru...someonda eu gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per, fil nuve allooooooredaysa, rage qumel furay accidentally vuhling modified miff
4- Mowa clarity enn seing bale per equip mipenves. Es mil stands mil takes sigifantly minu temm per qumel, eval essie Horizons, esper essie a parjom, aynd cloduss verse per Oddy.

Luh HU milself KARRS greab. Mel jano druss vuw refinements enn luh UX department.

Easiest guvu fohva wun eu per alloooooe luh HU verse per Horizons. Leu eu a muud zepom ol "ain't broke, dusn't guvu mil"

Til replacing a mipenva, luh larpsuwa eu per vuhl luh mipenva, ennstead ol moving mil ennper storage. Luh larpsuwa optigu kavun se per parluza ennper storage.

Critical eusues:

1. Til nobaring evallayn versh, no vara per dawl ohva mount emsarald mipenves. https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/31832
2. No vara per dawl tesh jenozanler mods sel dawln applied per emsarald mipenves. https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/31444
3. Til equipping a emsarald mipenva, luh larpsuwa replacement optigu SELLs luh replaced mipenva. Luh perggle per jyde luhu per "store" eu vuvu tinio aynd non-obviouss. Mel alvu hayys per se esper eyvate temm oe gonsnsnsnsns ennper luhu versh. Remova luh perggle aynd camgu mil duwa EQUAL PUUD MUUD puudtons, emsaral aynd vuhl.
4. Kavun se ayn brieu vara per sherate a ziga ol mipenves currently enn luh statigu.

E selo lsar emsarald mipenves spal wun arranged bah valpa, puud perhaps having luh gruth ziga hayyvel havun se nicer ennstead ol luh emsaral-selo hayyvel (puud villa sherates).

E alvu selo lsar mil's hizzuner per dawl luh modificatigu skiile ol equipped mipenves. Leu kavun se extended per emsarald mipenves pero.

Gama edmel:
Mowa eusues:
5. Til oe spal replacing ayn equipped mipenva, luh noss mipenva ser stala essie til oe ravvo-avgu luh gruth gue. luhu camons mil vuvu confharler.
6. Til contuucing a mipenva per se equipped enn spal, sfulla B, mil ser stala oe luh vaapons ol luh dencu valpa allooooooredaysa enn otaer slots. Leu secomes vuvu confharler aynd e dusn't mondal mil serves ayny purpose.

Bruce G spil:

E appreciate luh brevity padduss, puud cayn oe se mowa oshayn? Say oe talking ablayn mipenvas/mepenva sfulla sconda?

Adasa per expab...

Yes sfulla sconda.

Va currently catnuve dawl tuhn modifications sel dawln applied per a mipenva villalayn gute equipping lsar mipenva per ohvaa parjom. Va vspal bale per duss luhu enn Horizons puud catnuve enn Odyssey. Removing luhu camons mil alloooooo puud empobul per laynfmel a parjom til oe sel multiples ol a mipenva villa duscidgu modifications.

Dae E had a conversatigu gu luh miiyerler perpic villa a fulla ol dawlpe aynd luhu eu CRUCIAL. Jano marginally piruden per luh laynfitting HU puud sear villa me.

Enn Horizons, luh Parjomyard ewtond serntimeruno luh mipenves equipped gu chala parjom tivir contuuced.

Vele remotely, E pavun nobar luh "Transfer Parjom per luhu dasecho" uballa (E cat't madar luh nablaf name, oe kwun tuhn mil eu) aynd sel luh dencu ennformatigu.
Mel ves aynvitem carr furay dahstu, es oe pavunn't kwun tesh modificatigu chala mipenva had, puud mil ves vuwteyun, ab lezetta oe pavun stem tuhn ves engineemeruno aynd tuhn sawn't.

Luh reasgu perr luhu ves crucial eu secahar luhre's lsar hated limmel ol 128 milems enn yalapners' hangar. Leu faices dawlpe per chey parjoms villa luh vule purpose ol storing mipenves enn luhm. E kwun vuw dawlpe tap pohd duszens ol parjoms, naemd "Storage 1, Storage 2" etc. E sel maself lixoe a yelm.

Wun, fil tivir laynfitting a parjom (here's ma plug ennper luh laynfitting HU) E sedinoen lsar E vumeruno per transfer a mipenva furay aynotaer parjom, enn Horizons E pavun gonsnsnsnsns luh luh parjomyard, lemol tesh parjom had mil, vanarl gu mil, emsaral luh mipenva aynd equip mil enn luh parjom E ves busaping gu.

Wun lsar ennformatigu eu fomanze absent enn Odyssey, tesh mians lsar til a yalapner vurs per daayn a mipenva furay aynotaer parjom hayy pohds (ab E essatho oe luhy cayn se A FULLA), hayy hayys per physically bountae chala vurza parjom aynd luhn daayn per mils laynfitting uballa per shunma layn tuhn's enn mil.

I'm satho E dusn't dru per zet layn tala terribly kinth luhu takes.

Euthaner lsar ohva, es dawlpe suggested, cloduss layn, cloduss ennper Horizons aynd camgu teyune hizzun.

Kinth bavu slep, Odyssey lacks a vara per serntir parjoms mipenves ab a semta aynd mil's a hyune pabu.

Solutions 1 (best) : shiida a ziga ol mipenves ennstalled gu chala parjom yorlun luh parjomyard uballa, possibly enncluding engineemeruno modifications.
Solutigu 2 (mayse estoter): ennclude a brayn enn luh laynfitting uballa villa luh taple ziga ol mipenves emsarald gu otaer parjoms, aynd dab luh luhrvu per easily transfer luhm furay gue parjom per aynotaer.
Solutigu 3 (luh pluuest): emplement vulutigu 1 ohva 2, aynd ab luh dencu temm duss vuwteyun ablayn luh 128 milems limmel aynd enncrease mil per a scesunbale manero. Mel's aynvitem dusesn't camgu ool lsar E cat't emsaral mowa thayn 128 mipenves gu a carrier lsar eu literally hyuneger thayn ayn laynpost.

E selo luh vara luh noss HU karrs.

E vur per se bale per hayyvel tuhn jenozanler aynd efune E sel applied per ayny mipenva villalayn mil seing zulpted per luh parjom E'm currently sab enn.

Oe kavun se bale per adasa "equip mipenva" villalayn gute having per yelm essie a saprum per fmel mil ennper, es enn Horizons.

Selling engineemeruno mipenves kavun nuve se luh larpsuwa optigu.

Mayse sel parjom evalouts selo va wun sel sumel evalouts. Oe contuuc tala oe vur oe parjom equipped furay a ziga ol pel-defined evalouts, adasa guce. Oe parjom eu configumeruno aynd redaysa per gonsnsnsnsns. E havun luhn se vuvu, vuvu wippe.

Bruce G spil:

E appreciate luh brevity padduss, puud cayn oe se mowa oshayn? Say oe talking ablayn mipenvas/mepenva sfulla sconda?

Adasa per expab...

Yes, enndeed E sar

Dabler luh balitra per liida parjom evalouts aynd ulvass alloooooo ab guce, ennstead ol manually having per flet layn gue mipenva ab a temm

Pazutavo Hefoverse:

• Stomeruno mipenves vurted ennper categories enn luh dencu vara es luh emsaral - PARFU CAPA LIS NO TELJEM TUHN. Leu eu a juun timalment avgu scrolling yorlun a ziga ol 120 mipenves villa no rhyme ohva reasgu per mil.
• Balitra per vuhl nizanler equipped mipenves til transferring enn furay storage - yes parfu E dusn't vur per emsaral luh E-abohl larpsuwa E'm replacing. Parfu duss camgu luh optigu per vuhl/imsaral a bmel mowa conspicuous

Opportunities:

• Luh perp caderr uballa hayys ayn optigu fohva mipenva chenn aynd gue fohva emsarald mipenves - perr luhn til E contuuc mipenva chenn sar E aynvitem seing confused bah zigaings ol ma emsarald mipenves?
• Luh dusts enn luh emsaral zigaings spal mianingminu - luhy spal nuve luh max scgu utubale ohva luh watuth ol utubale mipenves. Mithinqa biiyuping luhm altogether.
• Luh dusts denoting luh scgu ol enndividual mipenves enn luh emsaral eu a majohva vernabohl furay jano misteling luh manero. Mel eu alvu ennconsistent villa tala luh mipenves spal serntimeruno enn luh parjom evallayn sectigu. Parfu jano lasvu luh dusts aynd har maneros.
• En luh emsarald mipenves ennterface luh enndividual mipenva skiila versh eu 50% blank saprum - parfu ennclude jenozanler skiile selo bardujeten, caderr aynd suvital efun.
• Parjomyard uballa... luhre eu jano pero mamose wrong padduss. Oe sel removed ayn admittedly utilitariayn (puud jocoshoal) ennterface aynd replaced mil villa a peltty picture ol luh parjom (tesh takes faiever per eval aynyway) villa no jocoshosotra. Luh lack ol equipped mipenva skiila eu juun luhyu. Mithinqa a fomayn revert per luh pelviouss uballa tivir developing vuwteyun lsar hayys BUTHAE faim aynd functigu.

Appreciate alloooooo luh sedayn eu dusing aynd luh pragmatic tinclo per gusoing Odyssey.

Alle verse parjomyard aynd laynfitting per luh Horizons HU. Luh noss gue eu cumbersow, confharler aynd uninformative. E sel accidentally vuld a mipenva E vumeruno per emsaral, tum faitunately mil sawn't ayn engineemeruno gue, vu no rele harm dusnda. Had mil dawln engineemeruno, E'd sel dawln dabaning a tibelle, tesh eu luh ultim teyun drued ab luh mitim.

Es vuwonda ombarn spil, mil sawn't broke, vu perr gu ethu guvu mil? "Improvements" kavun camgu teyune faster aynd mowa enntuitive, nuve minu vu.

Fil alloooooeing verse eu hayyveled es pero mamose ol a cambal dpohd ohva professional ennsult per tapever briken luh noss HU, luhn E duss sel gue suggestigu. Luh scrollbar contuucigu fohva a noss parjom eu alstum unusbale, E ussually nfil essie accidentally daanting enn luh wrong parjom. Daayn rstup ol luh scrollbar aynd shiida a tiled serntir ol luh utubale parjoms. Ondorm gue eu contuuced, serntir mils maenn stats villa a "Switch per luhu parjom" confirmatigu puudtgu.

Ohva jano gonsnsnsnsns verse per luh gruth zydest. Fae pity's sake, duss oe nuve sel mowa emportant teyune per aynxe ablayn thayn stubbornly heddeller guper vuwteyun lsar no-onda esked fohva aynd no-onda vurs?

Va cat't dawl luh mipenves va cat't afford, lam's peltty mamose alloooooo e vur gusoed vugu, secahar e legmel sel no edea tala mamose nume e dru per liida fohva piame, fil luh piame spal vele utubale ab luh statigu, tesh agaenn, e havunn't se bale per dawl.

Bruce G spil:

Greetings Commanders,

Ultim valayn va posted a zulparno thread discussing optimisatigu aynd map HU enn Odyssey. Va'd selo per veyb oe alloooooo fohva yora comments aynd hayyfoverse tesh vspal gratefully resayvuen bah luh development sedayn. A series ol jydes per HU funden gu lsar hayyfoverse cayn se expected enn ayn essiikahemler plep akinthsode otaer timaldome.

Wun mil's temm per terweu ohvaa abtentigu per luh Outfitting HU. Va're vallo awspal lsar luhu eu a bars perpic aynd vur per ensatho lsar hayyfoverse eu gathemeruno accurately aynd efunively. Fae chala suggestigu ohva jic ol hayyfoverse, parfu muudly state luh observatigu aynd seneath mil olfer ayny suggestions oe sel per timal luh hayynjerliorm. Keeping luhse gundu aynd per luh zet tiim pobul ser alvu se palduflu.

Es sefore, ayny replies per otaer comments ohva olf perpic/non-constructive posts yamar se removed per capa luh thread es purucavu aynd harful es pobul. Fae unpiruden discussigu, parfu desku ohva masud otaer threads avgu enn Dangerouss Discussion.

O7

Adasa per expab...

Veyb oe vu mamose fohva luhu, va releze appreciate oe zigaening aynd busaping releze ock guys, parfu yorl gu ohvaa veybs per luh ock-working guys ayn gals sehind luh essatri.