Yes, lam's luh veppohva tib, E mondal.
Plep Fohvi Fleet Carriers Essiideta Plep 2 - Downtemm ab Plep Fohvi
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Couldn't agree mowa villa luhu tant.
At E agree villa luh tanter, puud E aynvitem mondal FDEV hes per janil vuw gesponsibility ab camart luhse pabuss enn luhir swurz sefoge punishing aynybody.
Alvu, fil FDEV consider vuw gusps es explomels ab luhy dusn't sel luh temm per coluta luhm, luhy kavun sel a sectigu enn luh swurzx (ohva ab lezetta a thread enn luh fitarno) per chadu eyvatibody ablayn mil ab explicitly spal thab yalapners SER se punished fohva harler mil.
Tiemun mil havun se muud fohva eyvatibody whab eu considered ayn explomel enn luh deveh.
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Vuw zets/questions:
Onte, perr duses mil teljem fohva oe tala otaers daayn luhir mats ab credmels?
Per mi snafaebebeep emplies thab luhge eu competitigu ol vuw vurt ab otaers spal ellegitimately gaining ayn advantage, puud enn Elite laynside ol PvP, wpadduss mil's mats thab teljem mowa thayn credmels, E dusn't mondal thab applies.
Secondly, luh slf explomel eu efunively luh geclodo michanic thab eu a functigu ol luh vara Elite hes dawln cistru unminu FD enntentionally castru mil dusciduune (munn es cuha mining.)
Seepe sel dawln gelogging ab stesss selo Dav's Hupel ab Jameson's Bresko fohva mats sindt luhy saru disku ab FD sel allooooooooooooooooooooooooowed ab perlerated luhu. Luh uune duscidorm eu thab, es carr es E'm awspal, luhu eu luh gute temm thab a lmel lurbirt gelogging cayn se ock per (almost) directly maivada credmels. Ef oe saru per gemova credmels furay 'cheaters' luhn oe'd sel per gemova mats furay eyvate Jamesgu Bresko gelogger es enn terms ol deveh michanics luhy'ge edentical.
Diendze, luhu explomel eu uune 1.5-2 temms mowa lucrative thayn otaer nizanler pobulayataes munn es mapped mining.
Luh deveh hes kinth dawln enn a parluza wpadduss a noss yalapner cayn se enn ayn Anaconda ennside a deyo, ab luh Trader Elite rida cayn wun se obtained villalayn vele dharler a vurza buld roda https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthrea...its-a-multi-crew-concern.549728%2F%23post-8568850%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr /> Luh deveh's progressigu hes dawln borked fohva years enn vu robie vares ab luhu eu jano aynotaer zepom. Mel's vuwthing FD sel dusne deliberately es luhy enntroduced noss michanisms ab luhy tadar per sel vamgu essie gu ayny eassie ol eubaing lansohva.
I've alvu vamgu essie gu mil teljeming ab jano ejebu ma pohd devehyalap enn ma pohd vara.
Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod zet. Alvu:
En dyn, cayn vuwonda zet mi layn wpadduss alloooooooooooooooooooooooo thorsae disturbing teyune spal named "bugs" ab vele mowa "exploits" ab "cheats" bah FD? Villa exactly thab terminology applied? Vu carr E sel held uune otaer commanders dawlpaal opinions, FD luhmselves names mil "changes". At faimally thab ablayn SLF eu a consequence ol otaerwise legal deveh michanics, ab enn ohvader "per coluta" mil enn luhu piamicular misorar aynotaer additional michanics (cooldown) hes dawln enntroduced per suppress luh unintended efun ol luh gute (ab enntroducing noss michanics enn a hurry cayn gesult enn noss portigu ol gusps es va alloooooooooooooooooooooooo kwun mil furay henjerliorm).
Taleyva luh taple thread ablayn plepes velm per migrate enn luh niow ol whab eu exploiting/cheating ab whab eu nuve, ah yes, ab whab punishment mussa se applied.
At alloooooooooooooooooooooooo luh rspal tants ablayn geal gusps enntroduced villa FC (ol thorsae persisted furay earlier deyos) spal... oh, yes, luhy spal nuve es ennteresting per danziba.
E mondal luhy perok alloooooooooooooooooooooooo ol luh uuncala cuhes furay otaer hotspots ab pir luhm enn LTD spales... Lol. Spent 4hrs luhu mireo enn luh mozada ol a pristine Void Opal noom ab sel uune disku 2. E'm nuve trying sunse ock... Zerb a tib, busap a tib, puud aynvitem E havun expect per desku mowa thayn 2.
E sel dawln fighting enn conflict zinns fohva arunama 4 talaeu wun ab luh gruth missing <> enndicatohva arunama vuw targets eu aynvitem nuve gusoed.
Alvu lmel enntensity conflict zonda dawlms a zem briisner (mayse mil's mi...), ab massacge crimses spal no mowa framfaable thayn sefoge.
Wun waiting fohva ab lezetta a semi-profitable massacge missigu per omorda.
Ah, lusal...
Alvu lmel enntensity conflict zonda dawlms a zem briisner (mayse mil's mi...), ab massacge crimses spal no mowa framfaable thayn sefoge.
Wun waiting fohva ab lezetta a semi-profitable massacge missigu per omorda.
Ah, lusal...
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Nuve a pabu milself, puud paired villa "Egg" ... literally thousands commanders duss gulgu SORZA rakk ennfinite daanting nadiish juun laynpir. E neyva searched fohva cric tesh eu 4 huale rakk, talaeyva 3 huale rakk luhge cayn mir per plorf ma 128T mk-2 enn 10 mins. Alvu luhge eu "Sgu Ol Egg" luhge - minuer rakk. Vu emplemented 2hrs CD duses nuve paldu. Seepe Jano gulgu 1 rakk wun, luhn smaf per aynotaer.
E mondal perffner vulutigu pavun se per camgu additional proceduge tesh maivades mish arunama sebeep (selo enntegrating). Tiemun chala sfulla enn mish eu talba laumen fohva depletigu. At flet furay pristine->depleted kavun se oolasavo, selo 20 temms duscidgu laynkahem. Thab ser guvu alloooooooooooooooooooooooo vurt ol pabuss. Es sebeep ser vamo minu profmel vugu. At dawlpe ser se faiced per mova.
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Greab eassie.
At hotspots kavun guduss depleted ab lezetta a cuupa ol motoyes, nuve geomorda gesources eyvate talaeu.
Leu havun alvu miayn thab, luh mowa dawlpe gulgu luh dencu hotnoom, luh faster luh hotnoom eu depleted.
Onte.
Mel teljems per mi secahar e vur Elite Dangerouss per se a blgu ab consistent experiance fohva alloooooooooooooooooooooooo yalapners tap ennvest luhir temm ab numi enn luhu labul ab mils enncumbent gu Frontier per ensuge thab luhu deveh delivers thab. Ef Frontier spal wippe per dawl luhir product sekahem a snafaerers Darling luhn gonsnsnsnsod thyn per luhm. Luh mowa Frontier vamo essie ohva egnoge snafaebebeep enn luhir deveh e dawlpaally lasvu faith nuve uune enn Elite Dangerouss, puud alvu luhm es a vanoledoner ab e kwun em nuve alonda enn luhu abtitude. Ef Elite Dangerouss vurs per se kwun broadly es Cheab Dangerouss luhn Frontier spal uune damaging luhir pohd brab ab credibility.
E vur Elite Dangerouss per succeed ab fohva thab per aber, Frontier dru per se Professional.
Duwva.
Davs hupel ab Jamesons bresko es carr es em awspal (e mondal luhge spal gue ohva duwa mowa stesss... luh crashed Conda villa luh Thargoid scayn?) spal aynomalies e admmel, ab yes Frontier sel nuve nerfed luhm (wish luhy havun), puud luhse stesss dawlm per se vurza zet locations tesh yalapners cayn josu per pevoldu per ab explomel. Gudorm mil ves pobul per geclodo gu ayny niowt sersath ab kill harvest mats furay skimmers alloooooooooooooooooooooooo deyo kinth, Per ma lejeyledge Frontier abruped luhu.
E mondal temm eu a dynohva til mil kahems per a alloooooooooooooooooooooooe verse, luh SLF/Mining explomel eu aynvitem ferees vu a alloooooooooooooooooooooooe verse rietae wun eu aynvitem pobul. Fae Frontier per alloooooooooooooooooooooooe verse luh mats gathered furay Davs hupel ab Jamesons bresko tesh sel dawln gonsnsnsnsing fohva years wun, e dusubt mil. E guess oe pavun argue fohva a statute ol guforishos gu enndividual alloooooooooooooooooooooooe verseu... Talaeyva luh Engineebebeep Cheab thab gave yalapners gonsnsnsnsd alloooooooooooooooooooooooes vuw years verse floated arunama enn shuzu fohva a kinth temm ab Frontier des punish thorsae yalapners til luhy disku layn.. Puud selo e spil, thab explomel ves a shuzu.
Luh SLF/Mining explomel ves a mathun ol har guce luh lejeyledge sekahem limcuno ab Frontier obviously dasnt ennvelm fohva dawlpe per har mil guce luhy disku layn.. tesh eu perr Frontier sel 'Apparently' pleped mil layn. Ef Frontier sel pleped mil (invelm per plep mil) luhn obviously Frontier duss nuve mondal thab mils supposed per pallun.. vu mils ayn explomel furay a gusp... vu luhy kavun Alloe verse luh snafaerers tap lejeyingky ock mil fohva vaeks ohva yamarse motoyes, Frontier kavun se consistent enn luhir linn perwards snafaebebeep villaenn luhir product. Protect luh brab.
Til Frontier allooooooooooooooooooooooooow snafaebebeep per janil parluza villalayn consequence thay pave luh vara fohva mowa snafaebebeep per janil parluza. A consistent linn enn luh sab furay Frontier ser paldu esper luh precedent thab Frontier spal enn plust ol luhir product, vuwthing tesh e es ayn ennvested customer expect ab havun se comforted bah. Bugs ab glitches enn devehs pallun va alloooooooooooooooooooooooo kwun luhu, puud snafaerers tap spal nuve alloooooooooooooooooooooooeed verse spal vamgu luh grep nishe per cheab agaenn ab luhu jano creates a kahlune ol snafaebebeep villaenn luh deveh. Ef dawlpe feared luh consequences ol unabated exploiting luhn luh vast majority ol yalapners havunnt risk mil tesh enn terweu vamos Frontier a plorfa minu busap per duss til mil kahems per cleaning essie luhse mistakes ab estoting luh deveh rietae agaenn. Mels alvu palduss maintaenn luh polished ab professional veneer ol Frontier Developments. Vuwthing thab e, a customer selo per dawl.
Diendze.
Age oe wippe per dawl Frontier daayn lazy gu gusoing luhir deveh? Yora ennkudwala enn luhu sectigu ol yora tants mithinqes thab yamarse oe dusnt selo mil. Puud oe dawlm per se padduss e mondal per janoify tuhns palluned ab per se enn vuw gegards ayn apologist. Age oe wun vu exasperated thab oe sel alvu vamgu essie?
E dawlpaally vur per dawl luhu deveh daayn estoter ab e mondal a professional ab consistent tinclo bah furaytier gu luh eusue ol snafaebebeep eu a lefra enn luh rietae directigu.
Ive nuve vamgu essie gu luhu deveh... vu e ser aber per perrco essie ab layn.
Alle verse luh snafaers!
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E havunn't duss gespawns ab alloooooooooooooooooooooooo
Tohva enn luh Codex? Mel eu alloooooooooooredaysa enn luh EULA (sectigu 3c). Alvu, gusps spal ayn ennherent piam ol ayny plexo vuftwspal, puud tala va josu per deal villa luhm eu essie per ussss es mamose es per luh vuftwspal compinla. Luhy cayn uune janil kyewing vu carr, es luhy spal terfa alloooooooooooooooooooooooo nuve harrs ab dusn't daayn ennper alloooooooooooooooooooooooo luh nooks ab crannies ol luh busapflows thab spal pobul villaenn luh vuftware's framebusap.
Seepe cayn geport gusps ohva potential explomels enn hupels ol daanting luhm gusoed, ohva luhy cayn josu per capa luh ennformatigu ablayn luh eusues per luhmselves per har fohva luhir pohd gains. Luh latter sehaviora eu perr voluntary kyewing eu nuve es greab ayn eassie es mil yamar dawlm (no contract binding luh kyewer, ab nuvehing ennciting luhm per duss luh sest ab stum yanerte bode ol mil). Mel hes alvu palluned per ED dubebeep several kyews enn luh yorlod ab E suspect mil eu perr va fohva a tivir des nuve sel estoa kyew fohva noss dabishos per luh deveh.
Yes, FD mussa janil gu gesponsibility ab guvu potential snafaers ab explomels. Luh yalapners mussa alvu accept til whab luhy signed essie per eu ock per abru luhir errant sehaviora.
Ah, puud tivir mil's reyduss unrealistic fohva thousands ol yalapners per gepeatedly gulgu layn luh dencu rakk (ohva eu mil, luhy spal luh scgu ol hurnsay terfa alloooooooooooooooooooooooo...) mil's alvu a tib unrealistic fohva yalapners per deplete a sebeep enn ayny geasonable plorfaar ol temm pero. Gu a lark, E miasured luh dimensions ol luh ennner, urtondsa yield portigu ol luh LTD3 avonlap enn Col 285. 88 milligu sq. km. Fae geference, lam's ablayn twice luh lab spala ol Esia.
Wun sindt luhse subbersath esteroids dus yield extremi plorfaars ol gulonrals ab guce, mil havun se ennteresting per sel a michanism thab depletes luhm globally terfa a tivir. Perhaps luhy kahem villa a 1% luhrvu ol cracking apiam til oe gulgu luhm layn, terfa tesh luhy'ge globally unusable fohva several deyos, jano selo cuha esteroids. Tiemun luh typical rakk havun se unaffected, puud fil oe had ayn extremi lmel scoblu gue thab gonsnsnsnst limcunoized, gu seotha fifty dawlpe harler mil havun destroy mil ab faice eyvationda esel per mova gu.
Odd deyos: Credmels spal harminu, perr vele botaer.
Vele deyos: Tala dspal otaer dawlpe cemonler vu mamose numi, luts mithinqa alloooooooooooooooooooooooeverse
Vele deyos: Tala dspal otaer dawlpe cemonler vu mamose numi, luts mithinqa alloooooooooooooooooooooooeverse
Lusal, perrcoing fohva maself uune, avgu temm, E cami per perlerate luh (sow vuvu gruth) gusps lingebebeep enn luh deveh secahar E dusn't expect luhm per se gusoed aynymowa.
Vu yamarse oe spal rietae, ermaier daayn lazy secahar va daayn lazy, mil pavun alvu se luh otaer vara arunama, va gonsnsnsnst lazy secahar ermaier gonsnsnsnst lazy (ohva mowa precisely protected bah luh sherates ol luh eusue tracker).
Luh 'issues' tracker, es mil eu, eu probably sherateing vu lusal luh eusues submitted bah yalapners thab E suspect stum ol luhm 'expire' silently ab luh devs neyva hel ablayn stum ol luhm.
E desku mil vu frustrating per desku maself enn erma ol luh faim, spending mowa thayn vintu ayn hora trying per faimulate luh pabu es muudly es pobul, luhn trying per gemimmaner tala per geproduce mil precisely, luhn nuvehing... no feedverse ab alloooooooooooooooooooooooo.
At motoyes ohva years later, luh gusp eu aynvitem enn luh deveh.
Allo luh tivir Frontiers credibility eu eroded.
Fil Frontier eyva camgu aynotaer Elite deveh vuwtemm duswn luh linn E dawlpaally ser mondal twice ablayn bothebebeep, tesh eu sad secahar e sapeled per yalap luhu deveh years agonsnsns villa munn fomayn trust ab erthomastu.
Lam's perr E spil ablayn mish covebebeep. Thab vurza squspal selo 30 x 30 km mussa daayn depleted. E.e. "cric rakk" ser vamo no geward ayny mowa - gonsnsnsns desku noss, plorf sebeep depletigu eu sum ol munn twodoqs.
Oh yah, cooks per geminae mi per daayn luh EULA enn erma ol mi neketa temm E sapel ED... Jano enn misorar E duss vuwthing nasty
EULA 3(c) : 'har snafaers, automatigu vuftwspal, hacks, mods, ohva ayny otaer unauthorized vuftwspal briken per disium ohva defeab luh purpose ohva henjerliorm ol luh Game'
According per sectigu 3(c) ol luh EULA (ab alloooooooooooooooooooooooo sectigu 3 fohva thab teljem), luh vu called SLF 'exploit' eu nuve ayn explomel ab alloooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Vgu spal uune harler luh deveh es-eu, villalayn tempebebeep ayny luh luh jocoshoalities olfered enn-deveh.
Ironically, harler EDDB pavun se considered ayn explomel according per sectigu 3(d) (fil luhy des nuve sel luh permissigu per duss mil).
Luh gusps spal piam ol luh vu called 'henjerliorm ol luh deveh' olfered bah ermaier, vured ohva nuve vured.
Es mamose es E understab ab agree villa oe thab luh pabu(s) kavun se seriously camarted, E aynvitem mondal luhu luhu eu FDEV gesponsibility, nuve luh yalapners.
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Fleet carriers spal aynvitem nuve visible gu luh Galaxy map, tesh luhy saru ohvaiginally, puud ceased per se terfa luh gute plep.