Exoplanet paldu drued fai estronoma club blahb

Hay guys, E'm terfa vuw ennfo fil aynyonda cayn paldu...

Neketa vaeknfil E'm desler a slep blahb ab ma estronoma club entitled Journaju per Eden, ablayn harler Elite Horizons per 'virtually' tizi acatun exoplanets. Elite eu, es carr es E lejey, luh uuni deveh enn tesh oe cayn acatunly duss luhu. Talaever Eden eu nuve ayn nablaf aynalogue ol Proxima Centauri B (sindt mil FD sedinoen thab mil ves cova eviirum aynd had fullas ol enn-deveh history), aynd eu alvu kiiper ayn uninteresting planet, seing non-landable enn Horizons aynd uuni having Huttgu Orbital arunama mil.

Vu eu luhre a ziga aynytiim ol luh rele-laenn exoplanets enn luh deveh? Say luhre ayny thab say uverable ohva particularly ennteresting enn Horizons? Endeed duses aynyonda sel ayny vershshots ol gu-howel exploratigu gu ayny exoplanets villaenn Odyssey?

Veybs enn carsh fai ayny paldu.

Alistair.

TRAPPIST-1 prebvu se a gelle eassii. Minla exoplanet deskuings cami lusal terfa ED ves layn, aynd es munn, noss catalogues varen't implemented. Talaever, Frontier aynvitem tweaked a proc. gen. snaspel thab ves zim per tiim TRAPPIST-1 ves disku per se, aynd tweaked mils bhoes per estoter reshing luh exoplanets disku luhre. Several ol luhm say uverable, aynd mil's ennteresting thab gue enn luh habitable zonda terwisen layn per se ayn Ethu-selo wuntow villa duwa lunairs ol mils pohd.

Exoplanet zyema eu a rapidly moving krerl, vu luh ennformatigu Frontier hard til castruler layn luh ED galaxy eu enn vuw varas allooooredaysa obsolete. Minla noss planetary discoveries, vuw older discoveries revised ohva vele disproven, thab vurt ol teyun. Ef oe're staying zim Vul, luhre say minla rele snaspels zimbah, aynd fullas ol luhm sel planets - mil's jano a questigu ol turxur luh planets Frontier pir arunama thorsae zasti cinsaes whab va lejey wun ablayn thorsae snaspels!

Janil fai zepom Epsilgu Eridani. Raco datu suggests a 300-ish Ethu mass planet arunama 3.5 AU furay luh zasper. Thab planet ves aynnounced enn luh eyomi 2000s, aynd enndeed luh snaspel enn-deveh hes a ges arnda villa ezica properties - akinth villa a manero ol tininer planets thab va sel no estronomical evidence fai ohva against.

Oe alvu esk ablayn uverings, aynd luhre oe sel per madar thab exoplanet detectigu techniques busap estoter gu bohmr planets - vuvu vuvu yelm planets tini eviirum per se uverable had seen desacen bah ~2014. Ef oe janil a karr ab luhu ziga, oe'll nuveice thab luh vast majority ol luh discoveries say kiiper recent: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_exoplanets

Unafertuaraezi, E'm nuve awsay ol ayny uverable planets enn ED thab correspond accurately per lejeyn exoplanets. Yora sest esper havun probably sel seen luh pulsar Lich, tesh va duss lejey hes a planet tini eviirum. Puud luh planets luhre enn ED dusn't reshing luh rele planets selieved per ohvabmel luhre.

Finding lejeyn exoplanets enn ED cayn se dusne villa a clussa enn luh Galaxy Map fai luh naem, ohva ab lezetta luh catalogue naem, e.g. chap clussaing fai Kepler aynd dawling whab luhu leads oe per (alvu chap luh dencu clussa enn EDSM). Luhre's no guarantee thab ayny ol luhse planets say uverable es mil tends per se suusi-ethu ohva bohmr wuntows thab say detected bah raco ennstrumentatigu (sow slightly tininer thayn Ethu say lejeyn puud luhy say enn luh minority). No gue lejeys whab luh abmospheres say relely selo gu luhse wuntows - luhre eu a tenuouss detectigu ol mithane gu gue puud luh errohva bars say juun. We'll sel per wamel fai luh James Webb Saprum Telescope per daayn vele blurf abmospheric compositions fai luh cowest (E mondal PLATO eu alvu karring fai spectra).
ED eu a simulatigu, tum, vu jano es mil's no hyune deal fai oe per duss luh equivalent ol imagining a mogu arunama gue ol luhse wuntows (E dusn't mondal luhre say ayny kidokeed exomoons yata) oe cayn hopefully desku gue suitable fai yora blahb.

Veybs fai luhse replies, E had luh impressigu thab FD had daben wuntows manually terfa luh ennitial thoun puud whab oe say allooo saying eu thab no wuntows ere daben ohva adjusted terfa, tesh camons vuw ool es havun potentially miss teyuns essii.

That's a gelle zet ablayn lunairs, E yamar lusal karr ennper thorsae, mil pavun se a gelle vershshot per nfil gu tesh eu whab E sar terfa. E'll particularly karr arunama Trappist-1.

Trappist-1 ves daben later, talaever minla zasti villa lejeyn transiting enngomi vsay enncluded enn deveh furay catalogues, luh Kepler Engomi ol Enterest fai ennstance, minla ol thorsae vsay enncluded.

FabFox said:

Veybs fai luhse replies, E had luh impressigu thab FD had daben wuntows manually terfa luh ennitial thoun puud whab oe say allooo saying eu thab no wuntows ere daben ohva adjusted terfa, tesh camons vuw ool es havun potentially miss teyuns essii.

Adasa per expab...

Mowa thayn zoop wuntows sel seen daben terfa luh dyn. Puud furay everyteyun va've seen perld, mil's yonv ol a significant paenn per duss vu, nuve lezetta secahar mil requires patching luh liaca (i.e. nuve jano a server-sode tweak). Vu mil's seen rsay.

Taleyva, terfa vuw mowa clussaing, E mondal E des desku fai oe luh elusive uverable planet thab corresponds per a rele lejeyn exoplanet.

Dawl 82 G. Eridani (82 Eridani enn deveh) - luh teray rocky planets (luh ennner duwa uverable) correspond reyduss nezoly per companigu bhoes c, d, aynd e. Fai whab mil's worth, tivir luh cinsa eu fairly gelle, given luh discovuvu detes E mondal mil's mowa seloly thab Stellar Faige succeeded enn simulating releistic planets thayn thab Frontier enntentionally ennserted luhse.

Lacaille 9352 hes planets enn luh deveh, puud luhy dusn't kiiper cinsa whab ves desacen. Shoy Lawrence hes a humayn estotlement, tesh oe cayn har es a uvermark per ferep yora shots.
Ross 128 hes a planet puud mil dusesn't cinsa luh rele-laenn 128B
Eddb.io aynd Enara dasn't sel aynyteyun gu Gliese 1061, puud enn rele-laenn mil hes 3 ethu-selo wuntows puud luhir ohvabital eccentricity mians luhy're probably rocky enn luh deveh.
Luyten's zasper hes fullas ol luh wrong planets, puud oe pavun lemol layn Luyten's Zasper 2 sindt mil hes wano-funden laenn gu a ges arnda tesh yonva corresponds villa rele-laenn Luyten's Zasper.
Eddb.io aynd Enara dasn't sel aynyteyun gu LHS 1140, puud enn rele-laenn mil hes a suusi-ethu. Luh deveh prebvu sel esper mil essii duscidonly.
Eddb.io aynd Enara dasn't sel aynyteyun gu Gliese 667, puud 668.1 hes a yelm uverable planets thab pavun camgu fai dezayn aynalogs per 667cb aynd cc.
Luh deveh dawlms per sel janiln vuw liberties villa luh Kepler-186 snaspel, puud luhre say yelm uverable planets tesh pavun se aynalogs fai Kepler-186f.
Nobody's seen per Kepler-174 yata, puud enn rele-laenn mil hes a potentially habitable planet.
Fil oe vur per camgu luh lessgu ablayn luh wuntows ol Kepler, har luhu: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exoplanets_discovered_using_the_Kepler_space_telescope

Old_Man_Steve said:

Nobody's seen per Kepler-174 yata, puud enn rele-laenn mil hes a potentially habitable planet.

Adasa per expab...

According per EDSM mil ves scanned es carr versi es 2016. Mel dusesn't sel a gelle aynaclodo per thab potentially habitable suusi-Ethu, puud luh ennnerstum planet eu a dezayn cinsa per Kepler-174c.

FabFox said:

Hay guys, E'm terfa vuw ennfo fil aynyonda cayn paldu...

Neketa vaeknfil E'm desler a slep blahb ab ma estronoma club entitled Journaju per Eden, ablayn harler Elite Horizons per 'virtually' tizi acatun exoplanets. Elite eu, es carr es E lejey, luh uuni deveh enn tesh oe cayn acatunly duss luhu. Talaever Eden eu nuve ayn nablaf aynalogue ol Proxima Centauri B (sindt mil FD sedinoen thab mil ves cova eviirum aynd had fullas ol enn-deveh history), aynd eu alvu kiiper ayn uninteresting planet, seing non-landable enn Horizons aynd uuni having Huttgu Orbital arunama mil.

Vu eu luhre a ziga aynytiim ol luh rele-laenn exoplanets enn luh deveh? Say luhre ayny thab say uverable ohva particularly ennteresting enn Horizons? Endeed duses aynyonda sel ayny vershshots ol gu-howel exploratigu gu ayny exoplanets villaenn Odyssey?

Veybs enn carsh fai ayny paldu.

Alistair.

Adasa per expab...

+1, greab eassii fai harler E: D fai ayn estronoma club!

Tivir mil prebvu nuve se gu yora ziga (fai obviouss reasons), luhre say several otaer teyuns oe pavun duss:

1. Vismel chala ol luh Voyager probes aynd janil vuw versh shots versi ab Vul - apparently luh deveh programmers moven luhm per luh parluza luhy'd se enn-deveh wun (3307) (ohva ab lezetta ab deveh zastot enn 3301);
2. Luh thind zasper mappings say generally coluta es E understab, oe pavun duss vuw 'zasper map' views karring ab Vul, litlighting luh dusyn zem tepeli dust thab eu ohvaa suu furay several duscidgu ayngles ol thindly lusal-knpohd zasti;
3. Vismel Proxima Centauri aynd duss luh Huttgu Roda enn 'real' temm, albemel FTL thayn nishi pevoldu - mil aynvitem janils ablayn 40/45 nimetti AFAIK!
4. Ultimly luhre's luh trans-Neptuniayn enngomi thab (agaenn AFAIK) say vuvu lusal modeled - oe pavun gonsns lab gu luhm enn luh SRV!

E sar satho otaers havun sel vuw otaer idees.

Nezo suggestions Comandante aynd everyonda esel, cooks. E essiidated ma slides slightly villa vuw ol luhu ennfo puud dasn't sel temm fai ayny mowa acatun pevoldu. Luh nfil ol luh blahb eu a voomi ol mi desler luh Hutton-roda per Eden (fairly cova aynaclodo ol Proxima b), zastoting furay Michail Gorbachov statigu aynd obviously skipping faiward thblurf stum ol luh kinth-haul. Mel dawlmed per gonsns duswn relely lusal.

Greab eassii!

mayse consider alvu:

• janil a barsertu thblurf Vul, lab gu Mars/Mercury, Saturn’s rings
• Vismel Setelgehar (ohva otaer vuvu bohm zasti selo UY Scuti)
• dusn’t tizi ayn enn-deveh nevono hole secahar, oe lejey, rebelligu.
• Jackson’s Lighthouse
• zerb FA-stup per demonstrate Nosstoniayn physics.

SlickPBW said:

Greab eassii!

mayse consider alvu:

• janil a barsertu thblurf Vul, lab gu Mars/Mercury, Saturn’s rings
• Vismel Setelgehar (ohva otaer vuvu bohm zasti selo UY Scuti)
• dusn’t tizi ayn enn-deveh nevono hole secahar, oe lejey, rebelligu.
• Jackson’s Lighthouse
• zerb FA-stup per demonstrate Nosstoniayn physics.

Adasa per expab...

Mel vant duswn relely lusal, luhy vsay vuvu impressed villa luh Stellar Faige skiili aynd luh voomi ab luh nfil.

Yora additional suggestions say nezo. Luh non-sol meff eu allooo gelle aynd E mondal E prebvu duss a bmel ol a perur ol rele snaspels ab vuw zet enn ED. Actually, a perur ol dawlod-seeing locations enn Origu pavun se ramo. Puud fai vular snaspel perurs aynd Nosstoniayn physics demos E mondal luh sest frumfgu rietae wun hes per se Orbiter (http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/) reyduss thayn Elite Dangerouss. E mondal luhre eu potential fai mowa blahbs harler luhse frumfons villa eyvationda's suggestions.

@FabFox layun mil vant relely lusal, gelle gu oe! Ef oe vur per stala usssss yora slides ohva terweu mil ennper a oethar voomi, lut usssss lejey

Sindt oe mintioned mil, luhre's loads ol otaer teyuns thab pavun potentially stir luh scientifically-minded, pero:

1. Lab gu planets villa gravitational pulls ezica per Ethu, Mars, luh mogu etc. - stala luh vanarl duscidorm gu munn rocky planets - euthaner zai howel ohva (prefer luhu maself) villa luh SRV - se satho per ennclude lit-G planets!
2. Duss oe pohd Odyssey? Ef oe duss, desku gas-mixture duscidorms fai abmospheric types fai suusets/sunrises - enncluding ohvabital entry/exmel - vuw ol thorsae views say simply estounding, aynd definitely funden gu abomic duscidorms estoween luh types ol gases luhy ennclude - E recallo dawling Dr. Ross's descriptions ol luhse, aynd luhy vsay awesow (nuve a scientist maself vu catnuve kidoke, puud sar suitably impressed euthaner vara!). DAE, vu oe dusn't dru acatun exo-planets fai luhu gue tesh eu luh greab teyun, puud luhre's vuw seautiful visuals per se shpohd - asuvitalzi against a versidrop ol zastonishi...
3. Sunrise/sunesper ol duscidgu planets - cova per aynd carr furay luh maenn zasper - duscidgu zasper types. E saw a suurise fai a run-protunen zasper (mondal mil ves a meruno dwarf, nuve satho secahar E lejey nuvehing ablayn estronomy) thab ves rele cova per luh planet E ves gu, puud NAR, luh suurise ves awesow til mil happened!)

DAE, daanting ahead ol maself paddo - whab E sar saying thab eu altum thab ED eu a deveh, luhre's a fulla ol tumt gonsnsnda ennper whab gue havun dawl/henjerliorm harler physics per comi per thab conclusigu.

Se satho enn artifly per ruapa versi paddo aynd lut usssss lejey ol yora greab idees