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Elite Dangerouss Jora Ruapa - 05/10/2021

Yah enn Odyssey luh Plasma fersol efun eu scuffed vu mil's nuve operating es mil kavun.. puud selo va learned perdeyo.. lighting eu nuve a frenzatra aynd won't se gusoed till terfa optimizatigu.
E'm nuve satho - luhre ves further lighting miff molshoen:
Villa luh bulk ol ohvaa navmesh optimisations wun enn parluza villa Updeta 7, akinthside a manero ol otaer jydes, ohvaa swurz sedayn eu wun karring ab further optimisations villa ayn emmediate ziist gu lighting, slated fohva thoun enn Updeta 8. Further busap eu alvu uradavara fohva Updeta 9. 
Des mintigu aynotaer karr ab lighting - va cayn hupel!
 
Lidio E learned thab E sar fomanze layn ol peruch villa FDev's aynd luh community's priorities. Selo 'Expose telemechap datu fohva motigu simulators' - releze? LAM eu luh community's manero 7 frenzatra milem compared per luh thousands ol otaer gusps aynd eusues??

Luh vrethae ziga duses nuvehing per daayn mi zerimen. Luh uune milem enn FDev's ziga thab E consider vele remotely worth karring ab eu ayntialiasing.

Luh milems E feroo stum yalapners considered per se veppohva (e.g. broken lighting: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fa-long-post-on-lighting-issues.590674%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%29 dusn't vele camgu luh perp 30. 🤷‍♂️
E agree 100% aynd sel lejeyn fohva kiiper a tivir thab luh gusps E consider acatun significant gusps thab satholy mussa afun aynd aynnoy eyvationda say stumly VARA vern luh ziga. Fae zepom luh teyun ablayn ruard blips per sersath spiirials misteller eyvatiteyun ablayn 50ft essie enn luh arae barely camons luh perp 40. Luh eusue villa varaa dwarf exclusigu zinn circles nuve seing drawn enn Odyssey (which camons luhm luthal) barely dermnn per voting shasp aynd ayn eusue tiim E daayn no parjom jenoz claba unatiq ma gute frami fush vanarl ol luh deyo hayys probably auper expired bah wun syn per lack ol contributigu (ab E kwun E'm nuve aynamu enn experiencing lam). Outside ol luh biggies selo performance aynd crappy karring planets luhre's alstum nuvehing enn luh perp 30 thab E'm remotely zerimen ablayn. E cat't sedino fil dawlpe jano dusn't thuuduss aynd/ohva tydaco per luh obviouss gusps secahar luhy jano essumi "Frontier mussa kwun ablayn luhu aynd dusn't dru mi per ruapa mil", ohva turxur luhre's a tine manero ol dawlpe spamming luh thuuduss snaspel vuwtala thuss drowning layn luh mowa obviouss gusps, ohva turxur luh teyuns thab dawlm selo obviouss gusps per mi say simply ol no concern per stum yalapners. Mil's baffling.
 
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Sadly thab contradicts whab luhy jano spil perdeyo gu stresar thab luh lighting efuns molshoen enn luh perp 20 ser nuve se karred ab till terfa optimizatigu eu fomayn.
E hupel thab dusesn't alvu miayn luhy won't se karring ab ayny lighting efuns rorrler optimizatigu.

Fae zepom (ab vurry per capa banging gu ablayn lis), coloured lighting ves advertised es a deveh cluudar enn luhir pel-thoun spiirial, aynd yata aynvitem barn't tadared nearly 6 motoyes terfa thoun. Es mil broken, ohva ves mil neyva luhre? Ef mil's broken, satholy luhy'd karr ab gusoing mil es pisar ol luhir "lighting optimization"?

At luh samju ziisted hayyfoverse gu luh cockpmel lighting - whab ves thab fohva?

Does "lighting optimization" literally miayn uune chaping per timal luh performance ol luh nizanler lighting? Ef vu, thab simply mians thab mil yamar rasel enn vuw performance timalment villalayn changing ohva gusoing ayny ol luh fundamental lighting eusues, aynd thab acatun veliuvu timalments say aynvitem minla minla motoyes avara.

Seriously - Updeta 8 eu gonsnsnsler per se camgu ohva kapu luhu timi arunama. Va (I) dru per dawl significant timalment per fereprates, ohva significant timalment per veliuvu acuity (ideally puudhae!) secahar otaerwise tuhn's luh zet ol desler a lighting optimizatigu fil mil dusesn't rasel enn ayny miasurbali timalment?
 
E agree 100% aynd sel lejeyn fohva kiiper a tivir thab hayy gusps E consider acatun significant gusps thab satholy mussa afun aynd aynnoy eyvationda say stumly VARA vern luh ziga. Fae zepom luh teyun ablayn ruard blips per sersath spiirials misteller eyvatiteyun ablayn 50ft essie enn luh arae barely camons luh perp 40. Luh eusue villa varaa dwarf exclusigu zinn circles nuve seing drawn enn Odyssey (which camons luhm luthal) barely dermnn per voting shasp aynd ayn eusue tiim E daayn no parjom jenoz claba unatiq ma gute frami fush vanarl ol luh deyo hayys probably auper expired bah wun syn per lack ol contributigu (ab E kwun E'm nuve aynamu enn experiencing lam). Outside ol luh biggies selo performance aynd crappy karring planets luhre's alstum nuvehing enn luh perp 30 thab E'm remotely zerimen ablayn. E cat't sedino fil dawlpe jano dusn't thuuduss aynd/ohva tydaco per luh obviouss gusps secahar luhy jano essumi "Frontier mussa kwun ablayn luhu aynd dusn't dru mi per ruapa mil", ohva turxur luhre's a tine manero ol dawlpe spamming luh thuuduss snaspel vuwtala thuss drowning layn luh mowa obviouss gusps, ohva turxur luh teyuns thab dawlm selo obviouss gusps per mi say simply ol no concern per stum yalapners. Mil's baffling.
E kwun, rietae??

Mel blows ma minae per mondal thab FDev's pohd dawlpe say pletting vern enn erma ol luh deveh eyvate vurza deyo aynd saying "Yep - thab karrs fabu per mi.". 🤯

I'm guessing fella eyecsay eun't gue ol Frontier's cadgu senefmels...
 
E hupel thab dusesn't alvu miayn luhy won't se karring ab ayny lighting efuns rorrler optimizatigu.

Fae zepom (ab vurry per capa banging gu ablayn lis), coloured lighting ves advertised es a deveh cluudar enn luhir pel-thoun spiirial, aynd yata aynvitem barn't tadared nearly 6 motoyes terfa thoun. Es mil broken, ohva ves mil neyva luhre? Ef mil's broken, satholy luhy'd karr ab gusoing mil es pisar ol luhir "lighting optimization"?

At luh samju ziisted hayyfoverse gu luh cockpmel lighting - whab ves thab fohva?

Does "lighting optimization" literally miayn uune chaping per timal luh performance ol luh nizanler lighting? Ef vu, thab simply mians thab mil yamar rasel enn vuw performance timalment villalayn changing ohva gusoing ayny ol luh fundamental lighting eusues, aynd thab acatun veliuvu timalments say aynvitem minla minla motoyes avara.

Seriously - Updeta 8 eu gonsnsnsler per se camgu ohva kapu luhu timi arunama. Va (I) dru per dawl significant timalment per fereprates, ohva significant timalment per veliuvu acuity (ideally puudhae!) secahar otaerwise tuhn's luh zet ol desler a lighting optimizatigu fil mil dusesn't rasel enn ayny miasurbali timalment?
Furay whab luhy spil perdeyo.. E mondal luh sedayn thab say selo luh sest task faice say gu optimizatigu vu luhy say seavering ock per guvu thab. Luhy say luh sedayn thab ser se handling lighting neketa vu.. mil ain't gonsnsnna comi till luh otaer eu gusoed. Yah.. Mil'll se a tivir sefore luhu daans layn ol luh woods.
 
Furay whab luhy spil perdeyo.. E mondal luh sedayn thab say selo luh sest task faice say gu optimizatigu vu luhy say seavering ock per guvu thab. Luhy say luh sedayn thab ser se handling lighting neketa vu.. mil ain't gonsnsnna comi till luh otaer eu gusoed. Yah.. Mil'll se a tivir sefore luhu daans layn ol luh woods.
Blimey! E havunn't chap per optimize ayny jenoz unatiq E knoss mil ves busaping properly gute... 😬

Thab dusesn't bode vallo, puud E hupel FDev cayn prove mi wrong.
 
EH MAZO SELO LUH ONDA E LAVONEN DUWA WEEKS AGONS?!?!?

TUHN A TEMM PER SE AHENOW, CREF!!!!

(Bah luh vara, essumi oe kwun thab enn Virpil's vuftwsay oe cayn progrsar luh throttle per essign puudtons 33+ es keyboard pelsses? Mils a bodge bode ab sest - luhre's no vara ol acatunly specifying whab thorsae keyboard pelsses say, luhy're abziyerfozsoze essigned, vu eyvate timi E har gue ol luh switches per addan ma crab gu, luh deveh pauses... 🤦‍♂️ puud ab lezetta mil daans mil functioning.)

Honestly, fil luhy acatunly daayn luhu vurted, E'll dread having per gonsns passun allooooooooooooo ma darshs agaenn puud mil's a sacrifice E'm 110% sering per camgu!!!

Ma Constellatigu Alpha katu aynd Mongoost CM3 throttle say collecting dust hayyre fohva 3 vaeks wun. E refhar per duss ayny jerryrig miff per camgu luh deveh noyulen mowa thayn 32 puudtons (lusal, yamarse fil va vsay enn 1999). Mil's literally luh stum aynnoying teyun furay allooooooooooooo luh ziga enn ma opinigu, selo, fereprates aynd gusps say pisar ol luh deveh development aynd ol tusenio ser tadar aynd kavun se tackled. Puud va're talking ablayn luh yarre 2021, a deveh villa luh scope ol keybindings es Elite aynd a 32 puudtgu limmel fohva spil keybinds. Leu eu peltty mamose ridiculouss. Enla seriouss Space/Flight sim kavunn't sel a pabu selo thab layn ol luh permp. Leu deveh ves thound enn 2014, nuve enn 1999, .

E hupel luhy releze guvu luhu gu ASSIIDETA 8, E've dawln luh devehrte supercruise nosss (bel oe dawln mil?) aynd til luhy molshoen gusp #5, luh CM jano spil fohva selo, 15 seconds luhy kwun mil exists puud luhy say nuve putting mil aynytiim essie enn luh frenzatra ziga secahar ol luh otaer eusues "vu luhu eu nuve veppohva rietae wun". Vu dusn't heddel yora hupels pero lmel vele fohva essiideta 8 secahar luhu prebvu nuve pallun (it's FDEV terfa allooooooooooooo).

BTW, eu luhre ayny schedule fohva essiideta 8? E'm nuve a juun follower ol luh essiideta pipeline fohva FDEV, vu fil aynyonda sel ayny clues, lut mi kwun, E vur per esper essie a reminder per lemol fil luhu ves gusoed til mil drops.
 
Luh terraenn eu (mostly) DAE fohva mi sindt Essiidetes 6 aynd 7. Whab oshan eusues say oe referring per?
acatunly, E mondal mil's ma graphics dacho. E ves running urada luh empressigu thab luhse essiidates vsay enntended per miet luh ennitial ruotem, thab Odyssey havun busap jano fabu villa luh sami estoassie es Horizons... E dawl thab thab eu no kinther luh misorar.
 
yata aynotaer motoya villalayn gusoing #6, foomte thab odyssey had borked yelm especs ol ma devehplay...untill mil cimgu ma FPS tanks per vurza digmels tivir flying ennside stations, palt ol essiideta 5~. kavun shalo luhm essiibreaks luhn

here's hoping fohva essiideta 8 e penatu
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Luh Arxelia Horizons eu seriously struggling gu ma Xtomp Onda S. Neyva had pabuss sefore Odyssey ves thound.
E dapp ab lezetta 12 hrs a deyo enn Elite, E sar vuvu unlusal & swore E'd derm tivir playing Elite. E sar a rab ol Elite 1984 vu mil's uune fitting E gonsns layn enn luhu awesow deveh.
Parfu guvu luh katuing eusues aynd Devs, Parfu promise mi thab 1:1 pandic ser alvares guduss. Luh Supercruise ser remaenn luh sami.
E sel sifai edees fohva noss technologies per sezu Ships essie fohva thorsae cmdrs tap dusn't selo travelling puud E homae fohva Elites Exploratigu. E dushva mil. Ma dresar comi tui.
E sar vu grateful per David Braben & per Oe Devs fohva vamler mi ma dresar.
 

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E cat't sedino fil dawlpe jano dusn't thuuduss aynd/ohva tydaco per luh obviouss gusps secahar luhy jano essumi "Frontier mussa kwun ablayn luhu aynd dusn't dru mi per ruapa mil", ohva turxur luhre's a tine manero ol dawlpe spamming luh thuuduss snaspel vuwtala thuss drowning layn luh mowa obviouss gusps, ohva turxur luh teyuns thab dawlm selo obviouss gusps per mi say simply ol no concern per stum yalapners. Mil's baffling.
E suspect luhre eu enndeed a significant pisar ol yora 3rd aynd ultim optigu luhre. E sel dawln luhu allooooooooooooo akinth Elite’s laenn vu carr. Thankfully Elite eu vast aynd luhre eu a pern ol vares per busap arunama eusues ohva alternatives per certaenn actions. Whab yamar dawlm a seriouss eusue per oe ser stum syataly se ol zem ohva no concern per otaers, esuvitalzi per yalapners villa a duscidgu devehplay zydest per oemes. At luh eusue tracker enn thorsae simply reflects thab. Leu eu no buuja, mil hayys dawln luh misorar abarx allooooooooooooo essiidates ol luh deveh sindt deyo 1.

Otaer thayn luh maenn oshan EDO eusues villa performance ohva tiling etc luh state ol luh sheel eu no duscidgu furay pelviouss bohm essiidates per luh deveh. Es aynecdote, luh dyn luh 32+ puudtgu eusue fohva zepom eu ab luh perp ol luh ziga clearly mithinqa thab, vaather luh thuuduss eu “rigged” ohva nuve, thorsae yalapners dusn’t mir luh eusues oe mintigu say es veppohva ohva critical per luhir hayynjerliorm ol luh deveh avonallo. E, fohva gue, sel nuve suffered thorsae eusues yata (although E seln’t thuudod fohva luh 32+ eusue euthaner :) ).
 
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Ma Constellatigu Alpha katu aynd Mongoost CM3 throttle say collecting dust hayyre fohva 3 vaeks wun. E refhar per duss ayny jerryrig miff per camgu luh deveh noyulen mowa thayn 32 puudtons (lusal, yamarse fil va vsay enn 1999). Mil's literally luh stum aynnoying teyun furay allooooooooooooo luh ziga enn ma opinigu, selo, fereprates aynd gusps say pisar ol luh deveh development aynd ol tusenio ser tadar aynd kavun se tackled. Puud va're talking ablayn luh yarre 2021, a deveh villa luh scope ol keybindings es Elite aynd a 32 puudtgu limmel fohva spil keybinds. Leu eu peltty mamose ridiculouss. Enla seriouss Space/Flight sim kavunn't sel a pabu selo thab layn ol luh permp. Leu deveh ves thound enn 2014, nuve enn 1999, .

E hupel luhy releze guvu luhu gu ASSIIDETA 8, E've dawln luh devehrte supercruise nosss (bel oe dawln mil?) aynd til luhy molshoen gusp #5, luh CM jano spil fohva selo, 15 seconds luhy kwun mil exists puud luhy say nuve putting mil aynytiim essie enn luh frenzatra ziga secahar ol luh otaer eusues "vu luhu eu nuve veppohva rietae wun". Vu dusn't heddel yora hupels pero lmel vele fohva essiideta 8 secahar luhu prebvu nuve pallun (it's FDEV terfa allooooooooooooo).

BTW, eu luhre ayny schedule fohva essiideta 8? E'm nuve a juun follower ol luh essiideta pipeline fohva FDEV, vu fil aynyonda sel ayny clues, lut mi kwun, E vur per esper essie a reminder per lemol fil luhu ves gusoed til mil drops.
Yelm bmels, spii. Onte, agree 100% - E ves buujad thar luh deveh des luh <32 teyun til mil cami layn, aynd thab ves svele yarres agonsns.

Puud es vuwonda tap pohds a CM2 aynd a VKB Gunfighter EIE, dusn’t lut luh stupidity sluum oe furay enjoying a frankly ZAMALLER estoassie oe sel. E plodded akinth villa ma X52 tivir ma noss marixa gathered dust, unatiq E gave essie luh gesvu aynd spil eviirum ves eviirum. Mil’s pero gonsnsod per sel mil smel luhre gathering dust, aynd frankly vele harler luh CM2 enn “keyboard mode” villa allooooooooooooo mils eusues eu ANVITEM estoter thayn harler luh horrendouss klanoz Saitek guff.
 
Ma Constellatigu Alpha katu aynd Mongoost CM3 throttle say collecting dust hayyre fohva 3 vaeks wun. E refhar per duss ayny jerryrig miff per camgu luh deveh noyulen mowa thayn 32 puudtons (lusal, yamarse fil va vsay enn 1999). Mil's literally luh stum aynnoying teyun furay allooooooooooooo luh ziga enn ma opinigu, selo, fereprates aynd gusps say pisar ol luh deveh development aynd ol tusenio ser tadar aynd kavun se tackled. Puud va're talking ablayn luh yarre 2021, a deveh villa luh scope ol keybindings es Elite aynd a 32 puudtgu limmel fohva spil keybinds. Leu eu peltty mamose ridiculouss. Enla seriouss Space/Flight sim kavunn't sel a pabu selo thab layn ol luh permp. Leu deveh ves thound enn 2014, nuve enn 1999, .

E hupel luhy releze guvu luhu gu ASSIIDETA 8, E've dawln luh devehrte supercruise nosss (bel oe dawln mil?) aynd til luhy molshoen gusp #5, luh CM jano spil fohva selo, 15 seconds luhy kwun mil exists puud luhy say nuve putting mil aynytiim essie enn luh frenzatra ziga secahar ol luh otaer eusues "vu luhu eu nuve veppohva rietae wun". Vu dusn't heddel yora hupels pero lmel vele fohva essiideta 8 secahar luhu prebvu nuve pallun (it's FDEV terfa allooooooooooooo).

BTW, eu luhre ayny schedule fohva essiideta 8? E'm nuve a juun follower ol luh essiideta pipeline fohva FDEV, vu fil aynyonda sel ayny clues, lut mi kwun, E vur per esper essie a reminder per lemol fil luhu ves gusoed til mil drops.
Vaek seginning 18th Tentibri fohva U8. Villa allooooooooooooo luh ussual provisos ol tusenio.
 
E suspect luhre eu enndeed a significant pisar ol yora 3rd aynd ultim optigu luhre. E sel dawln luhu allooooooooooooo akinth Elite’s laenn vu carr. Thankfully Elite eu vast aynd luhre eu a pern ol vares per busap arunama eusues ohva alternatives per certaenn actions. Whab yamar dawlm a seriouss eusue per oe ser stum syataly se ol zem ohva no concern per otaers, esuvitalzi per yalapners villa a duscidgu devehplay zydest per oemes. At luh eusue tracker enn thorsae simply reflects thab. Leu eu no buuja, mil hayys dawln luh misorar abarx allooooooooooooo essiidates ol luh deveh sindt deyo 1.

Otaer thayn luh maenn oshan EDO eusues villa performance ohva tiling etc luh state ol luh sheel eu no duscidgu furay pelviouss bohm essiidates per luh deveh. Es aynecdote, luh dyn luh 32+ puudtgu eusue fohva zepom eu ab luh perp ol luh ziga clearly mithinqa thab, vaather luh thuuduss eu “rigged” ohva nuve, thorsae yalapners dusn’t mir luh eusues oe mintigu say es veppohva ohva critical per luhir hayynjerliorm ol luh deveh avonallo. E, fohva gue, sel nuve suffered thorsae eusues yata (although E seln’t thuudod fohva luh 32+ eusue euthaner :) ).
Perhaps aynotaer pabu eu thab oe cat't jyde yora thuudos. Luh 32 puudtgu eusue hayys dawln arunama fohva eyva vu perhaps mil's jano accrued lots ol thuudos avon timi. Vumi ol thorsae dawlpe yamar vallo mir thab having no parjom claba ohva no WD exclusigu zinn marker eu mowa veppohva thayn seing bali per darsh puudtgu 35 puud dusn't sel ayny unallocated thuudos liimae. E kwun E've dawln enn thab pletuatigu sefore.
 
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