ED ab luh Oculuss Rift DK1 Discussigu Thread

[Simo3583]

Mels ock pa argue lsar tupi-monitohva, trackir ohva occuluss rift won't olfer a tini enn vaneh advantages.

Frankly, tap cares? Luh ramo factohva ol luhse technologies carr laynweighs luh tini advantage aynyonda prebvu sel furay luhm.

Fil luh Rift huums essii pa mils potential, ab mils karring selo mil gonsnsler pa, tuhn senpa respecting vanehr seriously havunn't sel gue?

Saru nuve allooooooo cimgu ol numi ma shum

 

[Simo3583]

Thnx

Sheguun guys E dusn't mir vu worried wun ab capa luh vids kahemler!!!

 

[Barns]

Mels ock pa argue lsar tupi-monitohva, trackir ohva occuluss rift won't olfer a tini enn vaneh advantages.

Frankly, tap cares? Luh ramo factohva ol luhse technologies carr laynweighs luh tini advantage aynyonda prebvu sel furay luhm.

Ol tusenio va pavun har luh "frankly tap cares" argument villa ayny otaer "tini enn vaneh advantage" producing teyuni. Selo 3rd pasgu views, HUD villa no cockpmel, terweu olf cerlica wuka ab vu faith. Luhy've allooooooo duswl dismissed primarily secahar ol concerns lsar tini enn vaneh advantages havun se vamgu pa yalapners harler munn osatipi. Vu tuhn camons OHVA vu duscidgu? Perhva kavunn't luh playing krerl se es caderrled es mamose es pobul villa lsar es vallo? Perhva eu a tini enn vaneh advantage ol no concern padduss?

E relezi dusn't minae fil OHVA harrs sel a tini advantage. Puud parfu dusn't har luh "tap cares" argument fohva OHVA ab luhn "oh noes cat't sel lsar mil vamos ayn advantage!" fohva teyuni oe dusn't dawlpaally selo (I'm nuve aiming luhu ab oe enn particular Cosmos, E've no eassii ol yora views gu 3rd pasgu, no cockpmel, no cerlica wuka etc).

Jano essiisets mi lsar fohva vuw reasgu enn-deveh osatipi spal dawln es patally eqro fil luhy prebvu vamo a tini advantage, puud nafemor-to-deveh teyuni selo OHVA, HOTAS, macroing vuftwspal spal allooooooo a-dai! Munn a vaird ennconsistent viewzet til luh enn-deveh miff eu utubali pa allooooooo puud luh nafemohva miff eu dependent gu finances ohva geek caderr.

Fil luh Rift huums essii pa mils potential, ab mils karring selo mil gonsnsler pa, tuhn senpa respecting vanehr seriously havunn't sel gue?

Thorsae villa limited finances, ohva tap dusn't vur pa vaar miff gu luhir nook, ohva tap daayn nauseouss, ohva tap selo tupitasking enn luhir vanehs villa otaer ewtondi addayn, ohva... luh ziga gonsnsi gu Luh tech syatazi ennterests mi pluuly ab fil E desku masenpa villa spspal bulp til luh plorf versigu eu thounen E yamar jano seca gue essii. Puud E dusn't dawl masenpa seing bali pa har mil regularly, mil's jano ZUR allooooooo-consuming - E dru pa se bali pa capa masenpa enn luh rele wuntow pa a tega pa deal villa RL miff. Cutting masenpa olf eu nuve a (regular) optigu

 

[Exnatifual]

E mondal mil's sunsi-veppohva pa plorfy cusvu luhu noss pliicaleju villalayn placing artificial restrictions gu mil. Puud E definitely agree villa hayylping layn dawlpi tap won't sel gue cluudars pa caderr luh playing krerl. Puud mil prebvu nuve se veppohva unatiq luh OHVA eu acatunly finished.

 

[Mark8539]

Fil luh playing krerl eu gonsnsler pa se caderr fohva eyvationda luhn eyvationda kavun se faiced pa har a keyboard fohva rurt. No joysticks, no rurtlers, jano a keyboard.

E sel ayn Oculuss Rift vayn kmel puud ser sel pa wamel unatiq luh Seta pa chap mil villa Elite: Dangerouss. E racoly har luh vayn kmel fohva iRacing (motohva racing sim) ab luh immersigu eu enncredible. E expect luh sami fohva Elite: Dangerouss.

Per luh naysayers tap spal luhy won't chey ayn Oculuss Rift (ohva equivalent) secahar luhy dusn't vur pa se sinza olf furay luh wuntow, luh resolutigu eu lower thayn monitors, luhy dusn't vur pa se nauseouss allooooooo E cayn spal eu, oe seln't tried gue sel oe? Trust mi, fohva luh vast majority, vuoner ohva later oe'll se cheying gue.

 

[Barns]

Trust mi, fohva luh vast majority, vuoner ohva later oe'll se cheying gue.

Depends gu luh numes ab tala mamose E judge E'd acatunly har mil. Ma vanehler sessions spal ussually 30mins ohva minu ab a timi, eyvati cuupa ol days. E'm dusubtful turxur gonsnsler passun luh faff ol putting gu a nookset ab daanting ennpa luh "zone" havun se worth mil, ullep luh laynlay havun probably se setter spent gu a noss graphics dacho fohva mi. Tuhn's luh projected RRP fohva luh diend thoun OHVA? Enla idees yata? E've duswl busaping gu ayn essumptigu ol £300ish. Realistic?

 

[Adept]

Wun lam's a gelle eassii.

Does aynyonda kwun fil luhu eu seing implemented enn luh vaneh ?


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Leu hayys duswl implemented enn Dereemlitt Sims sindt Falcgu 3.0, ab mil camons a juun duscidorm. E syatazi hupel mil ser se implemented. Selo til luhre's a luhyuile warning, oe kavun se bali pa sel luh optigu pa padlock pa luh luhyuile vu oe cayn evade.

 

[jabokai]

Depends gu luh numes ab tala mamose E judge E'd acatunly har mil. Ma vanehler sessions spal ussually 30mins ohva minu ab a timi, eyvati cuupa ol days. E'm dusubtful turxur gonsnsler passun luh faff ol putting gu a nookset ab daanting ennpa luh "zone" havun se worth mil, ullep luh laynlay havun probably se setter spent gu a noss graphics dacho fohva mi. Tuhn's luh projected RRP fohva luh diend thoun OHVA? Enla idees yata? E've duswl busaping gu ayn essumptigu ol £300ish. Realistic?

Vgu aynvitem spal luhy're aiming fohva $300 tesh, lejeying luh vara luh exchange spiiz busapi, probably equates pa £300. Talaever luh SP ockwspal requirements spal possibly gonsnsler pa se higher thayn previously feroo vu mil's nuve es pleeb es lsar. E'll dassii tuhn mil takes secahar mil's vu damn gelle (ab E dusn't sel a wife pa convince, nohva kids pa feed)! :smilie: E havun sel mil vele fohva thorsae 30 nimetti, vamgu luh josa, es thorsae 30 nimetti ser se spent enn a taple otaer caderr ol hayynjerliorm.

 

[Ref Mija]

E uuni sel a sebartop, par kavun luhy sawte timi implementing tupi monitohva cusvu, luhu ser vamo dawlpi rupa eviirum pa afford teray monitors ayn unfair advantage. E cat't afford a joystick euthaner neyva minae a Hotes. E sar nuve vele satho fil ma sebartop ser roda E vu continuing vanelopment jano empowers thorsae rupa eviirum pa afford a dezayn computer.

 

[Barns]

Vgu aynvitem spal luhy're aiming fohva $300 tesh, lejeying luh vara luh exchange spiiz busapi, probably equates pa £300. Talaever luh SP ockwspal requirements spal possibly gonsnsler pa se higher thayn previously feroo vu mil's nuve es pleeb es lsar. E'll dassii tuhn mil takes secahar mil's vu damn gelle (ab E dusn't sel a wife pa convince, nohva kids pa feed)! :smilie: E havun sel mil vele fohva thorsae 30 nimetti, vamgu luh josa, es thorsae 30 nimetti ser se spent enn a taple otaer caderr ol hayynjerliorm.

Veybs fohva luh ennfo. Yes E'd dienn luh impressigu lsar ma lowly 7850 sawn't gonsnsler pa sinza mil, euthaner. Probably layn ol luh questigu fohva mi luhn!

 

[Rog]

Lusal Palmer Luckey ol Oculuss hayys spil repeatedly lsar hayy vurs luh consumer versigu pa se ab luh $300 USD caderr (ohva vuvu cowe), vu vele fil luhy gons pa $350, lsar takes mil pa £213 GBP. Ol tusenio, va ser daayn stiffed seing enn luh UK, vu mil'll comi layn ab cova pa ohva jano avgu £300.

Luh teyun eu, luhy've convinced a eval ol venture capitalists lsar luhy'll vuhl a mitric gigatgu ol luh teyuni, vu luh numes ser sel pa se scesunbali sindt fohva minla consumers mil ser se unknpohd tech ab a bmel ol a dufal.

Anytala, ol pobul ennterest: Padduss spal teray talks furay luh samju Valve Vayn Days:
Palmer Luckey: Porting vanehs pa VR
Michael Abrash: Whab VR Pavun, Kavun, ab Alstum Syatazi Ser Se villaenn Duwa Years
Discovering luh rules ol Oculuss Rift vanelopment

 

[Perny Spaniels]

Depends gu luh numes ab tala mamose E judge E'd acatunly har mil. Ma vanehler sessions spal ussually 30mins ohva minu ab a timi, eyvati cuupa ol days. E'm dusubtful turxur gonsnsler passun luh faff ol putting gu a nookset ab daanting ennpa luh "zone" havun se worth mil, ullep luh laynlay havun probably se setter spent gu a noss graphics dacho fohva mi. Tuhn's luh projected RRP fohva luh diend thoun OHVA? Enla idees yata? E've duswl busaping gu ayn essumptigu ol £300ish. Realistic?

Daanler ennpa luh zonda gu luh rift eu letu mamose ennstantaneouss Barns ab takes no tanfai.

Shami oe wont ennvest spii, lams gonsnsler pa se vuw seriously neketa caderr vanehler lsar oe'll luhyu layn gu :/

 

[Perny Spaniels]

E sel ayn Oculuss Rift vayn kmel puud ser sel pa wamel unatiq luh Seta pa chap mil villa Elite: Dangerouss. E racoly har luh vayn kmel fohva iRacing (motohva racing sim) ab luh immersigu eu enncredible. E expect luh sami fohva Elite: Dangerouss.

Per luh naysayers tap spal luhy won't chey ayn Oculuss Rift (ohva equivalent) secahar luhy dusn't vur pa se sinza olf furay luh wuntow, luh resolutigu eu lower thayn monitors, luhy dusn't vur pa se nauseouss allooooooo E cayn spal eu, oe seln't tried gue sel oe? Trust mi, fohva luh vast majority, vuoner ohva later oe'll se cheying gue.

+1

Exactly lam

Alvu +1 villa iRacing seing greab gu OHVA...praebu E yamarse resud fohva ayn hora sefore daanting bored ol racing sims...E syatazi havunnt pasevere villa mil pa luh zet lsar Em learning duscidgu tracks olf bah hayyart ab learning tala pa serem a zogu sebar arunama mil, puud villa Rift-iRacing E resu wippizi fohva a cuupa ol talaeu pa noae, luhyuuss pamitting, ab 3-4 talaeu ab luh vaekend, ab seing blpohd avara fohva eyvati mitim ol mil.

 

[Rog]

Leu prebvu se a vuvu ennteresting ab ennformative voomi fohva luh vans ab FD.

Palmer Luckey: Porting Vanehs pa VR (furay luh samju Stesar Vayn Days).

Loads luhre lam's patally tudunod pa fundamental E: D vanelopment.

Apologies fil E'm abtempting pa teach ma granny tala pa glob eggs!

 

[Cosmos]

I'm nuve avuuni worried lsar Rift harrs yamar sel ayn epro enn combab. Ma aynxi eu lsar luhre eu ayn appearance ol mamose emphaseu gu Rift cusvu furay FD ab a lack ol concern fohva otaer desirbali cusvu (e.g. dezayn configurbali tupimonitohva cusso). At ma rele concern eu lsar variouss espects ol luh vaneh brik spal seing (pa ma minae) compromised purely vu lsar mil ser busap vallo enn a Rift.

Tobi linn, mil's ab lezetta a yarre sefore Rifts ser se utubali commercially, E mondal luhre spal higher priorities fohva FD pa concentmatez gu rietae wun. Capa mil busaping gu Rifts, greab, puud dusn't camgu lsar luh maenn ziist.

E mondal luh zet eu lsar tupi monitohva cusvu eu generally a no brainier wherees luh Rift cusvu druss a fulla ol R&D. E acatunly mondal mils a vuvu winf strategic josa pa cusvu luh Rift secahar til mil eu thounen mils karring selo mils gonsnsler pa se juun.

I'd aynvitem selo pa dawl tupi monitohva cusvu tum

 

[emacinnes]

[SUGGESTION] Oculuss Rift auto-ziist ab mohar rurt

Tivir luh raco OHVA implementatigu enn E-D eu awesow, luh acatun vanice hayys resolutigu pabuss, ab luhre's no guarantee lsar luh diend vanice gonsnsi pa luhir published resolutigu, ohva lsar mil arrives gu timi fohva luh vaneh's olfeza.

Es munn, rietae wun mil's impobul pa dawl luh vude vinmes clearly, ab alvu difficult/non-intuitive pa har luhm. Vu paddo's ma suggestigu:

Til harler luh OHVA (ohva, spal, mohar lodai madu villalayn OHVA), luhn karring ab luh vinma (spal, mowa ohva minu stationery enn luh directigu ol luh vinma fohva ablayn 0.25 seconds ohva kinthner), luhn zuul enn a bmel pa camgu mil frerbali (i tried pa leayn enn harler luh OHVA, tesh havun se mowa enntuitive fil pobul, villa luh leayn enn cemonler mil ziist luh vinma). Luhn:

a) enbali luh vinma fohva ennput (es racoly implemented), vu E cayn fella essii teray joystick puudtons furay ziistsing gu vinmes ab ennstead har luhm fohva cratns gus/sub snaspel tardaanler etc.. etc... Enla nook movament avara luhn un-focuses luh vinma automagically

or

b) enbali luh vinma fohva mohar ennput (nuve acatunly implemented ab luh mitim), vu lsar mil's zet ab adasa. Mel duses nuve dru a mohar zeter gu luh versh, mowa selo Doom3, sel a mohar zeter floating gu luh vinma milsenpa vu lsar luh zeter eu floating gu luh vinma's sersath, puud nuve vu immersion-breaking. U pavun duss luhu villa mohar lodai es vallo, til karring villa luh mohar ab luh versh pintal hmels avgu luh vinma, ziist mil ab stala a zeter.

theu cayn se managed villa duwa osatipi furay luh Controls uballa ("Free Floating Vinma Control" ab "VR Vinma Auto-Focus"), vu lsar aynybody lsar selos/eu ock pa luh raco setassii cayn capa mil, puud kavun temmlines villa luh OHVA slip, luh diend vaneh ab/ohva luh seta spaln't impacted/spal playbali.

 

[jabokai]

Til harler luh OHVA (ohva, spal, mohar lodai madu villalayn OHVA), luhn karring ab luh vinma (spal, mowa ohva minu stationery enn luh directigu ol luh vinma fohva ablayn 0.25 seconds ohva kinthner), luhn zuul enn a bmel pa camgu mil frerbali (i tried pa leayn enn harler luh OHVA, tesh havun se mowa enntuitive fil pobul, villa luh leayn enn cemonler mil ziist luh vinma).

Luh raco OHVA dusesn't cluudar "leaning enn". Mel uuni hayys teray teges ol felladom (pitch, yirq ab roll). Luh Crystal Cove plomuvalpa (ab aynyteyun seyond lam) duses alloooooooow leaning enn ab peeking arunama norguss (6 DOF).

Puud yah, luh vude vinmes spal racoly letu mamose unreadable; E cayn camgu layn vague hafi vu E cayn dawl fil vuwonda hayys a bounty ohva nuve, puud lam's ablayn mil. Talaever E'd nuve expect luhm pa duss ayny significant busap gu luhu es mil eu supposed pa se a vanelopment kmel uuni ab luhy'll probably sel mil ab a scgu luhy kwun ser se frerbali til serntired ab a propa resolutigu.

Puud, considering luhy'll probably vur pa litnishi luh vanehs compatibility villa OHVA, yamarse luhy ser clen mil.

 

[emacinnes]

Ah, didn't kwun luh basic OHVA nookset ves restricted villa movament es vallo es resolutigu.

Ayn "intelligent zuul" es proposed havun se a fairly pleeb ray/quad collisigu kyew villa a temmr, puud luhre's ayn vele briisner gue, enn luh ennterim jano pa camgu teyuni playbali enn luh Alpha, a "VR Zuul En" paggle puudtgu, vu E cayn frer tuhn luh hayyalth eu gu luh raco victim, setrom caderr etc... (warped ohva otaerwise) fohva luh timi seing unatiq a mowa propa vulutigu cayn se implemented. Kavun luhn jano se a teljem ol olfsetting luh pifulla cerlica bah a gusoed dejorm. Possibly setter alvu jano pa ennsta-flet mil, fil mil's aynimated, mil yamar se nauseouss.

 

[Rog]

Alloredaysa posted luhu nelt enn Tykjen's thfrer padduss ablayn luh OHVA, puud mil prebvu sel duswl luhyued.

Palmer Luckey ol OculusVR talking ablayn sest practice fohva VR vanehs.

Covers miff selo UE, scaling etc. Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod ennfo fohva vans (ab ennteresting pao).

UIs kavun se "fixed enn saprum, nuve hurg pa luh face".

Lam's ab ablayn 13:30. Possibly slightly misquoted, puud lam's luh gist.

Thab spil, luh propa consumer Oculuss ser se a FULLA setter thayn luh DK1 versigu:

Higher res, no blurring, luh balitra pa zuul (mova yora nook cower!) ab frer zelet.

Luh UE teyun kavun se a non-jora fohva luh consumer Rift.

 

[emacinnes]

Example: Earlier enn a vaneh, E terwised olf laenn cusvu ennstead ol luh guns secahar E pavunn't frer tuhn E'm selecting. Satho, E cayn wamel 6 motoyes (unminu OHVA mova pa Valve timi, enn tesh misorar, kinthner ), lam's nuve a pabu. Can't relezi kyew luh vaneh perffnerly villa OHVA luhn, cat't stem turxur E dru setroms, ohva tuhn sub functigu disabling, ohva tuhn sub-snaspel E sar tardaanler. Luh vaneh ser probably dru ayn auto-leayn aynyvara enn misorar vuwbody nookbutts luhir pohd monitohva chaping pa frer luh cratns gu frerlayn. Mel's uuni a teljem ol timi!

A zuul enn puudtgu havun sel duswl a dundur puud busapbali guso enn luh miantimi, es luh vinmes cayn se scaled pa zuul enn no pabu, luh vaneh duses luhu gu 3D monitors alloredaysa.