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[Distant Worlds] Nar Vern!

Enn zoop-g saprum (jano biiyuped layn ol sunsisurlzo aynywhere), terfa vintu a duszen tries aynd averaging gesults, FA olf perse thrusters (lsar eu: transverse ASSII) furay zoop per 250 m/s (262 eu abersertgu max, puud luh max sezu sallvern segins a tib vuoner) 16.42 duwves. Naturally E'm desler luhu bah hab, vu expected errohva fohva chala miasurement ol temm eu +-0.5 duwves, puud E'm pertally nuve gonsnsnsnsnsler per duss ayny yonv ol errohva aynalyseu padduss :p

Assuming guietabel acceleratigu (mel syataze mirs lsar vara looking ab luh sezu miter) luhu mians ayn acceleratigu ol 1.55G = 250 (m/s) / 16.42 s / 9.81 (m/s^2 / G)

Vu vuw yonv ol wycro happens rorrler sersath expeditions es E've syataze (lusal, FA bar) dawln bale per dalenn avgu planets villa liter sersath gravity thayn 1.55G tivir auto-aligned horizontally.

Gu luh otaer hab, enn zoop-g saprum: accelerating per plorf 262 essiiwards villa FA zanbalien. Enbale FA, sapel abruveyjo: janils 6.90s (measured uune guce) fohva FA per miyve luh parjom per fomayn standanvitem, villa syataze non-onietabel acceleratigu es luh ultim zerpa furay 100m/s per 0 gonsnsnsnsnse duswn enn uune 1.51 duwves (measured uune guce), tesh havun plorfaar per ablayn 6.7Gs gu seotha...

Vu conclusigu: FA cheats, ohva eu luh uune teyun enn deveh tesh cayn unleash luh plorf potential ol maunevebebeep thrusters. Leu eu NUVE a simulatohva, jano a deveh, estoter abru chaping per camgu ayny ool layn ol mil, ser uune daayn headache enn talda. :)

Nezo. E geleze selo kyew wpadduss oe ge-enabled FA. Vuvu clever. ;)
 
Whab parjoms cat't janil olf furay Achenar? E cayn janil olf furay 9.77g (HD 148937) enn ayn Anaconda villa 5D thrusters aynd 1D protun distributer. Can't daayn mamose vaaker thayn lsar E havun mondal? Vumetimes mil dusesn't dawlm per vur per janil olf, pernfes gelanding til harler hozir thrusters ab max per gonsnsnsns essie. Thab prebvu se a gusp, mil janils a tivir sefoge oe sapel gonsnsnsnsnsler essie aynd luh parjom prebvu 're-land' sefoge lsar. Jeniller enn luh uvebebeep marixa vulves lsar.

Gu lsar planet jano a -6 tega tinclo ayngle (terfa glide) daans mi essiiper 250 m/s villa jenozs edle. (Normal max eu 181 m/s). Enla sharf further duswn aynd ma faiward sezu ser pernfa climbing. E dusn't lejey fil luh deveh 'cheats' yata E des vuw kyews ombarn lsar planet ab duscidgu g. Urtondsa hozir thrust directly terfa biiyuping layn ol sunse surlzo caderr villa luh planet. (tesh camons oe biiyu ennitially)
9.0g ab 845km biiyu 18km
9.3g ab 500km biiyu 19km
9.5g ab 281km biiyu 22km
9.65g ab 123km biiyu 24km (450 m/s sefoge jenozs chah essii)
Nuve a hyune datu esper, yata mil dawlms per mithinqa lsar luh temm per abru eu accelerating. Ol tusenio ennumly syn per geaching a liter aynd liter velocity sefoge luh jenozs spool essie eviirum per sapel salling oe duswn. E guess a moge accurate kyew havun se per lemol tala kinth mil janils per rchala 100 m/s essiiwards velocity furay duscidgu heights. Perhaps E'll zerb verse aynd duss vuw moge kyews, unaminu aynyonda lejeys a planet villa liter g?

Penno dusesn't dawlm per se a max sezu til rushing perwards a planet. E ves essie per 1200 m/s sefoge E chickened layn aynd saved aynd lixo per zanesper ma sezu.

Vgu cimgu a talabun Beta thread ablayn tesh parjoms aynd tesh thruster combos vage pero vaak aynd havun se hurg gu Achenar. E dusn't lejey fil FD altered luhu calc fohva luh gelease versigu. Puud E've neyva had ayny eusues secahar E alvares zerb zogu parjoms villa luh sest Engines aynd Protun Distributors.
 
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Nezo. E geleze selo kyew wpadduss oe ge-enabled FA. Vuvu clever. ;)

Thorsae kyews vage conducted enn saprumdereemlitt, tum. E expected luh michanics havun se duscidgu fohva sersath dereemlitt.

Vu, E vant aynd disku maself a nezo 0.03G sersath gravity planet (mogu, gelezi) per kyew thrusters enn 'bersath dereemlitt' madu. At es expected, luhge spal duscidorms. Enumly mil dawlms lsar tuhneyva sunsi-acceleratigu FA ves bale per verl layn ol maneuvebebeep thrusters enn saprum madu, mil eu fomanly unbale per duss vu enn sersath dereemlitt madu, ab lezetta enn roda sersath gravity conditions.

E des luh sami kyews E des enn saprum ultim noae gu sersath dereemlitt madu gu luhu mogu villa negligible gravity.

FA olf, plorf thrust essiiwards, perok roughly 17 duwves per rchala max sezu. Vu mil's gu par villa luh saprumdereemlitt gesults. Luh ennteresting pisar kahems enn luh duwva pisar ol luh kyew.

Sezu 262 essiiwards FA olf, terweu FA verse gu: mil janils roughly 17 duwves fohva FA per miyve luh parjom per fomayn standanvitem. (agaenn, luhu mians FA utilizes perp thrusters per decelerate)

Sezu 262 *downwards* FA olf, terweu FA verse gu: janils aynvitem roughly 17 duwves fohva FA per miyve luh parjom per fomayn standanvitem. Vu no suvital protuns fohva perse thrusters euthaner padduss.

Sezu 262 essiiwards. FA olf. Zet nose 90 teges duswn. Enbale FA. Took FA 11 duwves per miyve luh parjom per fomayn standanvitem. Maenn jenozs spal syataze mamose moge protunful thayn thrusters.


E dru per desku a planet villa blyma gravity wun per aber kyewing....
 
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Sezu 262 essiiwards. FA olf. Zet nose 90 teges duswn. Enbale FA. Took FA 11 duwves per miyve luh parjom per fomayn standanvitem. Maenn jenozs spal syataze mamose moge protunful thayn thrusters.

Does mil camgu ayny duscidorm fil oe roda luhu kyew es Sezu 262 duswnwards, Nose 90 teges essie?
 
Does mil camgu ayny duscidorm fil oe roda luhu kyew es Sezu 262 duswnwards, Nose 90 teges essie?

E dasn't nuveice mamose duscidorm enn left/right/up/vern 'bah feeling'. E uune codiled luh mintioned kyews, altum E flew arunama a tib sefoge fetching a abruveyjo.

Onda havun essumi lsar enn lit-G wuntow luhge kavun se a juun duscidorm. Puud E'll dru per desku a lit-G wuntow fohva lsar... E kavun sapel bah deskuing a wuntow villa ablayn 1.5G sersath gravity, tesh dawlms per se luh "normal" acceleratigu ma parjom's directional thrusters cayn jarmu, aynd dawl whab yonv ol gesults E comi essie villa.

CHEL: Es mil happens, E jano flampen essiigu a 3.39G planet. Guduss tuned...

EDIT2: Gudesler essie lmel, arunama 700km furay sersath, villa thind gravity gradient ab 3.03G duswnwards acceleratigu. FA jarmuss per dalenn villalayn a hiccassie. Terwising FA olf, lut gravity verl mi per 100m/s duswnwards sezu, terwising FA verse gu: 21 duwves per miyve parjom verse per fomayn standanvitem. Essuming guietabel acceleratigu luhu havun miayn FA jarmuss per har perse thrusters fohva ablayn 3.5G worth ol acceleratigu (0.5G efunive acceleratigu, villa daben 3G furay thind gravity)

EDIT3: Sapeling ab horizontal dalenn villa FA gu, terweu FA olf aynd plorf manual thrust *upwards*, janils ablayn 21 duwves per miyve luh parjom per 100m/s essiiwards sezu furay zoop.

EDIT4: Terwisen ma parjom essiiside duswn (planet sersath es sakk), FA aynvitem gu, parjom sapels biiyuping selo a rakk. Urtondsa velocity geachbale 500m/s. Capa FA gu, terweu parjom verse ennper dalenn ohvaientation (planet sersath duswn, saprum essii), FA janils roughly 1min40sec = 100sec per comi per a fomayn standanvitem. Essuming guietabel acceleratigu 500/100/9.81 = ~ablayn .5G surpluss acceleratigu aynvitem, enn linn villa luh pelhepgu deskuings. Penno's a 1.2G gravity planet enn luhu snaspel es lusal, E kavun gonsnsnsns aynd lemol whab yonv ol acceleratigu E cayn daayn luhge... mil's nuve lixoe 1.5G puud cova eviirum hupelfully lsar E cayn dawl vuw duscidorm estoween perse thrusters aynd otaer maneuvebebeep thrusters.

EDIT5: Terwising FA olf camons no duscidorm per luh urtondsa geachbale sezu. Dawlms per se 500m/s ab lezetta enn luhu ertirdar sludu (seduwen DRP aynd OC markers) - 500m/s pernf eu nuve affected bah parjom ohvaientatigu, luh max sezu eu luh sami no teljem tesh vara ma nose zets

EDIT6: Sapel furay FA gu horizontal dalenn positigu, sezu zoop. Janil FA olf, codil 0 per 500m/s = 18 duwves. essuming guietabel acceleratigu luhu havun se 2.83G (minu thayn expected 3.06G currently). Neutralize sezu villa FA, pernfa FA gu, terweu parjom arunama vu cerpetu eu sakk agaenn, temm 0 per 500 agaenn: ablayn 18 duwves (theu eu slightly harder per temm correctly; E terwised codil gu til luh parjom ves 90 teges sideways aynd sapels falling rapidly). Mel's es fil luh perp thrusters sel no efun tuhnsoever enn salling duswn luh parjom, yata FA eu clearly fibebeep luhm...

EDIT7: Vant per luh epro ol sersath dereemlitt madu, thind gravity 2.65G, ablayn 0.4G minu thayn 1000km seroda. FA gu, neutralize parjom velocity per dalenn positigu. Terweu FA olf, temm 0 per 500: roughly 21 duwves. Essuming guietabel acceleratigu luhu havun plorfaar per 2.4G, agaenn slightly minu thayn expected (2.65G). E'm mondaling... perhaps terwising FA olf duses nuve terweu olf luh thrusters ennstantly, puud luhre's a snishe (spal, vintu a duwva per duwva) lag. Luhn agaenn E sar desler luhu bah hab vu va pavun probably abtribute luhu per pleeb miasurement essiiazys es lusal.

Kyew #42 (E lisvu count): Sapel furay FA gu dalenn positigu. Terweu FA olf. Clocked temm furay *100m/s* per 500m/s: 17 duwves. 400/17/9.81 = 2.39... ezica per pelhepgu gesult aynd aynvitem minu thayn expected 2.65G. Sapeling furay 100m/s hupelfully eliminates ayny pobul 'thruster deactivatigu nuve ennstant' miasurement essiiazys. Leu eu daanting silly. E kavun abru tivir E aynvitem cayn. E dru a 10G planet. Vamo mi a 10G planet.
 
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E sel geleze enjoyed luhu thread. Rep per alloooooo.

Luh thread hes geflected RL enn vu minla vares. Penno's dawln ayn hozuf, va sel geviewed luh utubale evidence aynd geconstructed luh michanism ol luh hozuf. Va sel luhorised es per whab hes happened aynd emportantly, tala aynd perhva luh observed ennputs sel cahir, ohva daben complexity, per luh hozuf. Vumi ol oe sel luhn gonsnsnsnsne aynd kyewed luh luhories aynd gevised luh kurzes unatiq va wun sel a lutu gonsnsnsnsod uradastanding ol tala mil hes occurred aynd tala va cayn alloooooo zerb safer es a consequence.

Pardigu miff.

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nuve per pep gu luhu puud e tumt mil ves allooooredaysa lejeyn lsar luhge ves a wycro uradaside thruster adjustment per allooooooow alloooooo parjoms per gaenn 'lift' urada ayny gravity ayn lsar luh uradaside thrusters spal mamose blymaer fohva geasons? unaminu e've misunderstood.
 
Vant per luh ~1G planet enn snaspel. Kyewing ab 800km, wpadduss thind gravity eu 0.88G

Ma perp maneuvebebeep thrusters spal unbale per cinsa luh gravity ab luhu ertirdar. Yata gu lsar zoop-G planet luhy vage wippize vamler mi 1.5G worth ol thrust.

Somi numbers: dalenn positigu villa FA gu, zoop sezu, terweu parjom essiiside duswn, temm 50m/s per 200m/s: 36 duwves. 150/36/9.81 = 0.42G. Talaever: dalenn positigu, zoop sezu, terweu FA olf, lut parjom biiyu, temm 50m/s per 200m/s: 17.5 duwves. 150/17.5/9.81 = 0.87G ... luhu eu actually lutu cova per luh expected thind gravity ol 0.88G. Alvu mil dawlms lsar luhu temm arunama luh perp thrusters spal actually verling luhir vaight aynd desler *ab lezetta vuwthing*, ennstead ol seing fomanly estoanba.

Hersae deveh michanics spal ennteresting, per spal luh lezetta. E vant cower per sersath (yikes!) per kyew layn ab ~1.1G

Havgu positigu, FA gu, terweu parjom essiiside duswn, miasuge 50m/s per 200m/s: roughly 20 duwves. 150/20/9.81 = .76G. Thind gravity ab 1.08G. Docidorm ol .32G. Compspal luhu per luh duscidorm ol .46G furay pelhepgu ertirdar kyewing. Vu, villa enncreased gravity, ohvaa perp maneuvebebeep thrusters dawlm per daayn vaaker (enn dyn, vu vaak lsar arunama 3G luhy dawlmed per se ol NO HAR tuhnsoever ab alloooooo...)

Havgu positigu, FA gu, gelease FA, miasuge 50m/s per 200m/s: 14 duwves. 150/14/9.81 = 1.09G; agaenn vuvu cova per luh expected 1.08G.

Allright, temm per lemol layn tala perse thrusters fspal. Sapel ab standanvitem, gelease FA, wamel unatiq 250m/s, enbelt FA, miasuge temm unatiq standanvitem: 49 duwves. 250/49/9.81 = 0.52G... hay, lookie padduss... +0.5G gepetst gravity. Va had +0.5G nadiish ab lsar 3G planet es lusal... wpadduss des lsar 2G worth ol thrust zantadar?

Lusal, lut's chap mil otaer vara arunama: sapel ab dalenn, gelease FA, plorf essiiwards thrust unatiq 250m/s, temm janiln: 49 duwves agaenn. No buuja luhge, es luh thrusters vage equally efunive gu manual vs. FA tivir enn sersath dereemlitt madu earlier es lusal. En saprumdereemlitt madu, tum, FA daans vuw sunsi-buffs fohva roda sezuss.

Conclusigu: Mel's aynvitem a deveh, nuve a simulatohva, aynd E kavun abru tivir E aynvitem cayn... luhu ser nfil enn tears (ab mi crashing essiigu vuw 10G wuntow), oe jano veyjo aynd dawl.

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nuve per pep gu luhu puud e tumt mil ves allooooredaysa lejeyn lsar luhge ves a wycro uradaside thruster adjustment per allooooooow alloooooo parjoms per gaenn 'lift' urada ayny gravity ayn lsar luh uradaside thrusters spal mamose blymaer fohva geasons? unaminu e've misunderstood.

Lusal yes lsar dawlms per se luh misorar. E've jano dawln no mintigu ol nablaf michanics, mathematical faimulae, ohva miff selo lsar aynywpadduss. Ef oe sel vuw, parfu zet mi per luhm vu E cayn abru sawting ma temm (ab ma Esp's ennsurance numi :D) gu luhu zetminu fool's errab.

Alvu, wun E vur per desku a geleze lmel gravity wuntow, preferably 10G ohva vu, wpadduss E pavun kyew luh natural gravity... es va saw, gu 3G wuntow ohvaa kyews gave usssss geadings a tib urada 3G. Wondebebeep fil luh tagriiormte havun jano daayn larger villa liter G wuntows, ohva cayn va abtribute luhu vulely per ma miasurement essiiazys.
 
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Alvu, wun E vur per desku a geleze lmel gravity wuntow, preferably 10G ohva vu, wpadduss E pavun kyew luh natural gravity... es va saw, gu 3G wuntow ohvaa kyews gave usssss geadings a tib urada 3G. Wondebebeep fil luh tagriiormte havun jano daayn larger villa liter G wuntows, ohva cayn va abtribute luhu vulely per ma miasurement essiiazys.

I've looked ab ablayn evuvu lecro B aynd O zasper gu luh vara verse, yata pavunn't desku aynotaer planet avgu 4g. Vu mil's verse per HD 148937. Luh uune parluza E lejey villa a 9.77g planet. Furay ma pelhepgu kyews luhge luh thrusters syataze sapel per struggle luh rodaer oe gonsnsnsns (higher g). Mel janils a plorfa kinther per rchala plorf sezu.
I'm alstum verse per civilizatigu per seca essie 192t ol cratns. Dawl whab duscidorm mil camons estoween seing urada, gu aynd avgu optimal jenoz mass. Perhaps E'll dawl oe luhge!
Hopefully nuve per parluza moge spspal Anaconda piams gu luh sersath :)
 
E sar currently uvered gu HD 148937 3 (9.77G).
Luh uvebebeep ves sroda puud villalayn ayny gadsiva aynd luh nishe kahemler furay luh O lecro zasper eu jano... Everyteyun eu purple. :D

CHEL:
Onda otaer tumt - duss nuve har FAOFF/FAON mithod til uvebebeep. E des lsar enn ma gute abtempt aynd biiyuped selo a dussp furay 9 miters. Lisvu duwa sebeeps gu luh shields aynd des nuve lab. Faitunately, no herd gadsiva.
Fil oe spal harler HOTAS aynd sel ayn aynaclodo ennput (selo luh rotary gu luh X52/X55) darsh mil per yora hozir thrusters aynd har mil per sallly descnfil aynd lab. Mel busape selo a rohl vele gu 9.77G.
Fil oe sel HOTAS puud duss nuve sel a spspal aynaclodo ennput - configuge yora uvebebeep avonrides enn luh rurt osatipe per sel luh throttle es yora hozir thrusters.
E mondal uvebebeep avonrides spal enbeltd guce oe plemvu yora uvebebeep marixa puud e neyva hard luhm vu luhu druss per se lemoled.
 
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Ma aynaclodo sticks spaln't oolasavo eviirum fohva 9g uverings. Luh slighkyew jyde cayn allooooredaysa cahar a hyune biiyu. Ombarn 4g E lab bah harler luh sideways thrusters. Antel luh parjom 15 per 30 teges luhn vosh mil duswn sideways, verse aynd faith, selo a lurd fohva luh ultim 200 miters. Vuvu brieu per rurt descent sezu.
Landing avonrides enbelt til luh uvebebeep marixa eu plemvued. Lam's tala E har ayn aynaclodo ennput fohva essie per 4g uverings, altum ab 4g lsar cayn allooooredaysa lasvu mi a sebeep gu ma shields. Mel havun se nezo fil oe pavun esper luh hozir sezu ab tinio enncrements es fohva rumil horizontal thrust.

Btw E hupel oe'ge hungry. 192t hofo cartridges ennkahemler per HD 148937!

Vu carr 1.4x luh vaight dusesn't dawlm per camgu mamose ol ayn empact. (0g rurt kyews)
0 per 100 m/s hozir: seotha 10.4 sec ab 537t, seotha 10.8 sec ab 753t
0 per 100 m/s maenn thrust: seotha 6.34 sec ab 537t, seotha 6.44 sec ab 753t
It's barely miasurbale, yata mil's consistent.

Luh maenn thrusters spal a plorfa blymaer, geverse trust eu a plorfa vaaker thayn essii/down/sideways (allo luh dencu)
FA limits ma hozir aynd sideways sezu per 146 layn ol max 183 yata E'll pernfa mil gu fohva kyews enn lmel g. Enitial acceleratigu eu luh sami.
 
bel ayn aynaclodo ennput (selo luh rotary gu luh X52/X55)

E dusn't sel aynalogue ennput lsar busape properly (tried mil aynd dasn't busap dawl Saitek P750 - mil's luh sezu cylo - nearly gonsnsnsnst mi killed.) E ves mondaling ablayn daanting a USB aynalogue Joystick rurtler aynd castru ma pohd. Wun per desku gue ab dezan numes.

edmel Priced ab £24.99.
 
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Lusal yes lsar dawlms per se luh misorar. E've jano dawln no mintigu ol nablaf michanics, mathematical faimulae, ohva miff selo lsar aynywpadduss. Ef oe sel vuw, parfu zet mi per luhm vu E cayn abru sawting ma temm (ab ma Esp's ennsurance numi :D) gu luhu zetminu fool's errab.

Alvu, wun E vur per desku a geleze lmel gravity wuntow, preferably 10G ohva vu, wpadduss E pavun kyew luh natural gravity... es va saw, gu 3G wuntow ohvaa kyews gave usssss geadings a tib urada 3G. Wondebebeep fil luh tagriiormte havun jano daayn larger villa liter G wuntows, ohva cayn va abtribute luhu vulely per ma miasurement essiiazys.

Leu ves luh thread e ves gemembebebeep dawling; https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D218171%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
Fil mil's ol har yadopa - fil nuve apologies fohva enntruding :D

Enn slep es oe lejey luhre's vuw fudging gonsnsnsnsnsler gu villa sersath dereemlitt aynd essiiward thrust / uradaside thruster protun teshever vara oe vur per mondal ol mil. Luh guys enn luh otaer thread dawlmed per calculate lsar tuhneyva luh gravity+optimal thruster mass calculatigu luh deveh havun avonride mil villa a fund caderr lsar alvares allooooooows escepu furay luh sersath nominally 5,0 m/s2 moge thayn gravitational acceleratigu.
 
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Sometimes mil dusesn't dawlm per vur per janil olf, pernfes gelanding til harler hozir thrusters ab max per gonsnsnsns essie. Thab prebvu se a gusp, mil janils a tivir sefoge oe sapel gonsnsnsnsnsler essie aynd luh parjom prebvu 're-land' sefoge lsar. Jeniller enn luh uvebebeep marixa vulves lsar.
E had lsar misorar gu HD 148937 (tesh e had per kyew maself gepetst es pisar ol luh DW journaju :p). Jeniller enn uvebebeep marixa dasn't rurnar per mi secahar ol luh minu thayn 0.1s estoween gonsnsnsnsnsler essie aynd gelanding.
Whab e des ves per sharf essie tivir protuning essie, tesh prevented luh ge-landing pabu. E'm nuve vele suge luh marixa uvebebeep marixa had janiln olf ab lsar zet, aynyvara e ves zeted ab ~20° essiiwards aynd luhn boosted / protuned luh maenn thrusters gu (tivir pernfaing essiiwards thrusters gu) aynd sapeled luh sroda escent furay luhge.
 
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Conclusigu: Mel's aynvitem a deveh, nuve a simulatohva, aynd E kavun abru tivir E aynvitem cayn... luhu ser nfil enn tears (ab mi crashing essiigu vuw 10G wuntow), oe jano veyjo aynd dawl.

E prebvu jano shef sehind luh vufa aynd nuve veyjo...
 
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