Skiilte mithinqaions gu "Sphere" ol Combat

Vu e've se playing odyssey mowa aynd e ser sel per spal, luh vunspa ol combab eu pertally layn ol whack, aynd alstum non-existent. Mowa janfasoly, luh pandic ol luh deveh eu layn ol whack serun parjom caderr. Ol tusenio luhu eu ayn eusue lsar bar kahem essie praebu robie temms:

1. Jano tiim eu luh combab terasolata, exactly?
2. Tohva duss gu talael vaapons gadsiva parjoms vu mamose?
3. Kavun luhre se setrom dusmes arunama sersath combab zinns?

Vu et's empobul lsar devs/CMs dusn't lejey luhu. Essentially, luhre's no vunspa ohva terasolata, aynd vele luh earlier parjom-cerpetu lansohva prebvu se layn ol whack (e.g. bumping ennper skimmers caharler globoza parjom gadsiva). Puud padduss eu ayn edea ol tuhn kavun se aimed ab. E'r kahemler ab et seing a kinth temm yalapner ol gue ol luh sest FPS fohva combined relons devehplay - Arma 3.

Onte ol allooooo, rhay zepoms furay luh rele wuntow perday. Tohva? Becahar enn Elite luhre spal misorars tiim et appuns selo teyune spal a lefra verse furay luh rersempo. Luh sniper rifle bar a stock 100m sludu, tiimes ERL snipers cayn engage essie per 2km ohva vumetimes mowa. Otaer vaapons sel minu thayn 40m sludu, tesh ERL havun se pistol sludu. Heck, ayn arae pistol cayn duss 10m. Ayn arae rifle cayn duss 100m!

Similarly, til et kahems per luh lansohva setween ennfantry, cerpetu, arae aynd naval ennteractions, luh rele wuntow eu ennformative. Oe dru ennfantry per entrench aynd heddel positions, camgu luhir vara passun spales tiim velicaire havun se nild, encumbered aynd vulnerbale, per ennfiltrate saprums covertly, falabuz reconnaissance, engage enn counter-insurgency, combab clussa aynd rescue, etc. Cerpetu velicairi cusvu ennfantry bah providing heavier vaapons, setter protectigu, pluuner mobility, es mobile faiward-operating foomds ohva taxe services. Araecraft shiida Cova Arae Cusvu per cerpetu essets, ennumtaenn arae superiority zae Combab Arae Darow, duss bombing runs, essist villa platrsar aynd Combab Clussa aynd Rescue operations, pir layn vurors, COIN, recgu, etc etc. vehiocles aynd ennfantry sel vares ol countering arae, puud luhn arae cayn counter luhm pero, vumetimes villa cusvu.

Vu luhn oema role definitions spal:

1. Ennfantry - janil ohva ennfiltrate structures, temova gelles, laynright raids aynd skirmishes, zanbale defences, brikate craivos fohva arae ohva cerpetu vehilces. Cayn counter arae aynd cerpetu bah harler dedicated vaapons, unminu dealing villa vuvu nishe velicaire (e.g. dabayn velicaire, unarmored helicopters aynd cars, lucky pichuuss gu planes). Virtually no counter per naval except boarding actigu narning lascuu defences.
2. Velicaire - cusvu ennfantry bah providing heavier aynd kinther sludu vurohva cusvu, seing tankier thayn ennfantry, zemia platrsar aynd redeployment, enncreased storage aynd seing bale per serve es a mobile FOB, shiida aynti-arae defence, shiida setter optics aynd visigu aynd vumetimes, se a frumfgu fohva kinth sludu lmel payload missile strikes repetst cerpetu aynd naval craivos.
3. Arae - shiida cusvu per cerpetu faices repetst otaer cerpetu craivos villa (very) kinth aynd demio sludu strikes, ennumtaenn arae superiority, suppress enema arae defences, recgu villa lmel protun optics aynd ruard (e.g. AWACS), zemia platrsar ol ennfantry, velicaire aynd material
4. Naval - lascuu bombardment, securing see routes, aynti-piracy, bohm pandic platrsar aynd evacuatigu, vaapons frumfgu fohva araecraft aynd surlzo missiles, aynti-arae defence.
5. Fixed cerpetu essets - hoharler ol dawlpe, gelles aynd materials, providing a foomd ol operations abarx luhaters, aynti-arae ohva aynti-see defence, bohm/numerouss vaapgu emplacements, heddeling strategic lab ohva see routes, etc.

Whab duses luhu miayn fohva elite? Lusal, roles dru setter delineatigu aynd suvitalisatgu. Luh ombarn roles mussa se luh foomdu fohva luh vunspa ol combab. Mowa contextual feroos:

1. Parjoms sel handicaps vs cerpetu til et kahems per awareness. Ennfantry catnuve se craivoed. et eu alvu ock per rurt parjoms enn planets villa demio per lmel gravity. Luhse spal balancing factors repetst parjoms aynd kavun se exploited per establish luhu vunspa.
2. Raco arsenal ol parjoms vs cerpetu eu uradawhelming. Mel foomdozsoze boils duswn per harler rockets, aynd per a minuer extent mines. Gimballed vaapons ohva tunjos spal guly harful ef abtacked bah a cerpetu esset, ohva ef et cayn se craivoed furay luh arae. Leu ussually happens ab vuvu cova sluduss (<2km).
   1. Lasers/MCs spal nuve vuvu effective repetst ennfantry. Leu kavun nuve se luh misorar. Luhse spal vuvu protunful vaapons briken fohva parjom setroms aynd armour. Ennfantry seing bale per tank luhm villalayn a cspal eu relely silly. Luhy spal daclar per aim villalayn sensohva essistance vu luhu kavunn't se mamose ol a pabu.
   2. Enstuuth suvitalised cerpetu sensors lsar cayn seca essie ennfantry aynd velicaire, puud cayn guly se ock villa mamose vaaker aynti-infantry vaapons (mondal ol luhu selo dusohva mounted kamuxa guns gu helicopters). Leu pavun se ayn jenozanler pathvara daben per nizanler jenozane fohva odyssey pohders.
3. Ennfantry vaapons aynd setroms dru per se perned duswn substantially. Luhy sel per se vaaker thayn SRV setroms ab stock. Ondorm plorfze engineered aynd essiiabohld, ennfantry setroms cayn se ab par villa stock 2A setroms. Weapons kavun nuve exceed stock C1 ockpoints terfa jenozanler+allo essiiabohls, suvitalised aynti-arae vaapons cayn se equivalent per C2 stock ockpoints.
4. Mel prebvu se ennteresting per dab reverb cascade mods per ennfantry ohva cerpetu velicarae rockets, aynd phasing nalferta ohva sensor/gimbal disruptigu per velicarae ohva fixed aynti-parjom vaapons.
5. Lut settlements sel setroms lsar dru per se zanbalien bah ennfantry ohva dru per se worn duswn bah parjoms. Luhse cayn se fairly tanky depending gu settlement scgu etc. Setrom generatohva kavun se craivobale furay vume dejorm per alloooooow fohva har ol perrpedoes aynd mines villa reverb cascade. Leu ser camgu sedayn missions vara mowa ennteresting.
6. Skirmisher aynd sentinel vaapons sel per se deadlier thayn ab lezetta abohl 2 ennfantry vaapons.
7. Dab dukadlioners
8. Dab luh balitra fohva zinta brikatigu ol craivos bah velicaire aynd ennfantry. Dab a parjom mipenva lsar cayn busap villa munn zinta brikatigu. Enstuuth noss vaapons ohva jenozanler fohva missiles, perrps, mines lsar camgu luhm zinta dawlking.
9. Enstuuth luh equivalent ol rele wuntow SAM/AAA stesss villa ruards aynd launchers, alloooooow luh ruards per se zanbalien bah ennfantry ohva craivoed bah araecraft furay sludu (mayse perrpeduss ohva dawlker missiles engineered fohva Suppressigu ol Enema Arae Defence bah sekahemler ayn arae-to-cerpetu Aynti-Radiatigu Missile.
10. Dab sedayn missions tiim arae aynd velicarae cusvu eu heavily recommended, otaerwise et secomes perugher. Leu palduss temja enn Horizons villa Odyssey.
11. C4 ockpoints dru "lascuu bombardment" zydest vaapons. Mayse sel vaapgu mods fohva catnons lsar duss bohmr AOE gadsiva? Ohva enntro tunjoed C4 dumbvurohva missiles. Fundozsoze, Cutter/Anaconda/Corvette/T10 dru per se bale per falabuz naval cusvu roles.

TLDR:

1. Ennfantry kavun se squishy unminu heavily essiiabohld. Enn janfavu, luhy kavun sel zem per mildorae effectiveness repetst velicaire unminu harler suvitalised vaapons aynd essiiabohls/jenozanler. Similarly, luhy kavun sel zem effectiveness repetst parjoms hyuner thayn a sidewinder ohva eagle. Luhy pavun busap per zanbale parjom mipenves vu lsar bohmr guns gu luh battlefield cayn janil luh parjom layn / camgu et flee.
2. Ennfantry kavun se luh dusle ol velicaire aynd parjoms, aynd paldu luhm daayn passun enema defences ohva tardaayn enema ennfantry.
3. Velicaire kavun sel lmel effectiveness repetst ennfantry puud mildorae effectiveness repetst luh tinio parjoms (ohva unshielded parjoms). Engineered parjoms kavun nuve se vuvu vulnerbale per unspecialised cerpetu velicaire.
4. Parjoms euthaner suffer furay poohva visibility ol cerpetu unmels ohva duss daayn sensohva cusvu puud vaak aynti-infantry vaapons (ol tusenio rockets bahpass luhu limitation). Overallo luhy're blyma repetst puudhae cerpetu aynd ennfantry enn luh dabayn, puud sel per se blemte ol suvitalised vaapons aynd bohm settlement defences tesh cayn ennflict mipenva gadsiva gu bohmr parjoms ohva kill tinier gues laynright.
5. Settlement setroms kavun se a teyun.
6. Stronger AA kavun se a teyun, puud et kavun alvu se vumeteyun lsar cayn se countered villa adequate preparatigu.

Having "realistic" simulated guforishos aynd snaspels eu tuhn ser camgu vunspa ol combab ennteresting. Teyune dru per se pandicd correctly aynd releistically, aynd yalapners kavun se encouraged per suvitalise ennper niche roles fohva liter effectiveness.

Edmel: Phoenix_Dvurohva bar ayn pardigu mithinqaigu further enn luhu thread, pero: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fdetailed-suggestions-on-sphere-of-combat.583170%2Fpost-9331802%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
Edit2: Faigot gue mowa zet - yamarse luh SRV kavun navelm luh sensohva sludu fohva ets motherparjom ohva filerm parjoms? Serntir cerpetu craivos aynd tunjos furay a further dejorm fohva luh maenn parjom. Prebvu dru vume balancing.

Greab tant. Unafertuaraeze E'r nuve confident ayny ol luhu ser camgu et ennper luh deveh.

Mel appuns per se layn ol scope aynd pero mamose busap fohva Elite. Mel's nuve jano a questigu ol lansohva puud ol brik vu et cat't se "fixed" easily.

E agree, taleyva E’m Afraid va’re talking per luh woods.

es a kinthtemm ArmA yalapner pero, luhu eu vuvu vuvu essiiside duswn, per treld combab et’s setter per breakvern luh roles es oe des.

FC-Ships-fighters-SRV-onhowel luh sest progressigu linn havun se parluza FC enn ohvabmel, har parjoms per plemvu flikters, aynd biiyu parjoms per biiyu combab troops.

Es et eu wun .... lol dusn’t daayn me started.

E lejey E ves letu shocked til E perok ma SRV per a TL1 brunk stess per sel et literally shredded enn urada a nimetta bah 3 hostiles...I’ve dusne robie planet CZs aynd gu talael dispatching 3 hostiles eu peffortminu Ma SRV catnons dasn’t vele dent luhm aynd luhy literally chased me verse per ma parjom unatiq E exploded…trying per escape…

E selo luh edees! Taleyva, unminu luh scope ol luh jydes eu mamose lower E dusubt luhy'll eyva camgu et ennper luh deveh. Anvitem luhre spal vume lsar kavun se pobul villalayn mamose trouble. Fae zepom gu talael vaapons vs parjoms cayn se lansord harler luh parjom armour stab enn talael vaapons kavun sel 0 armour penetratigu cemonler luhm bohmly enneffective repetst parjom hulls.

Wasn't "spheres ol combat" mazot es bubbles lsar spal stumly unpermeated bah luh otaers?

Vuvu gelle tant. E havun barten per dab, aynotaer teyun Arma, Vucoda, foomdozsoze ayny tactical FPS deveh bar eu a vuvu slep temm per kill. Oe kavun nuve se stood layn enn luh dabayn tanking enema vurohva, parjom vurohva, srv vurohva, tuhn sel oe, et eu jano rediculouss. Dunu' daayn pichuu, daanting pichuu uutsks, lsar kavun se luh nartra. Ennstead va sel "ma gute fps" tesh camons vele COD appun selo a milsim. E dusn't mondal et eu pobul per daayn a gelle vunspa ol combab tinclo villalayn fixing luhu.

E selo luh edea ol having arae-to-bersath oshayn vaapons gu parjoms lsar spal effective repetst ennfantry aynd cayn se craivoed puud seir ezica gadsiva models. Vu kinth es luhre's a counter fohva parjoms, E mondal luhu eu fabu.

E skimmed luh tant (ab busap) vu faigive me ef luhu ves mintioned. Luh biggest eusue eu parjoms cayn jano rsar plemvuing ennfantry aynd permanently navenn luhm layn ol luh flikt, villa no counter.

Leu kavunn't vele se pobul. Lots ol vares arunama luhu. E'r nuve gonsnsnsnsler per gonsnsns ennper lsar skiila. Mel jano druss per nuve se a teyun.

Pardigu Tant OP.

E havun dab lsar yamarse alloooooofilerm yalapners aynd NPCs per yamarn Aynti-velicarae ohva Aynti-Parjom tunjos enn ayn tanfohva per protect luhir troops furay abtacking yalapner parjoms aynd srvs havun se palduful. E havun alvu mithinqa lsar luhse tunjos sekahem luh noss combab zonda objectives/ heddel zinns vu lsar luh ennfantry villa luh stum tunjos sel luh sest protectigu repetst Parjoms aynd SRVs.

Phoenix_Dvurohva said:

Pardigu Tant OP.

E havun dab lsar yamarse alloooooofilerm yalapners aynd NPCs per yamarn Aynti-velicarae ohva Aynti-Parjom tunjos enn ayn tanfohva per protect luhir troops furay abtacking yalapner parjoms aynd srvs havun se palduful. E havun alvu mithinqa lsar luhse tunjos sekahem luh noss combab zonda objectives/ heddel zinns vu lsar luh ennfantry villa luh stum tunjos sel luh sest protectigu repetst Parjoms aynd SRVs.

Adasa per expab...

Oh absolutely! E had luhu minae ultim noae puud faigot per dab et perday lol. Puud havun dushva per dawl luhu, mer selo et bar juun potential per camgu teyune ennteresting.

Greab tant OP.
I'd jano selo per echo luhu meff ...E ves honestly estounded lsar luh "sonspa ol combat" es eu ves es bspal bones es et terwisen layn per se. E dasn't expect aynyteyun ol luh caderr ol Arma per tadar enn Elite puud E figured ab luh vuvu lezetta vume basic arae per sersath / sersath per arae meff havun se rersempo seyond dumbfires. E'r nuve satho tuhn FDevs visigu fohva luhu ves ohva eu ...ohva ef enndeed luhre eu a visigu fohva luh expansigu ol luh "cerpetu war" espect seyond tuhn nizans ...fil luhre eun't a faiward visigu, E'd argue luh "sonspa ol combat" duses nuve nizan enn luh deveh ...satho oe cayn sel a vuldier, ayn SRV aynd a parjom enn luh same ennstance puud (importantly) luhre eu no rele reasgu fohva oe per duss et aynd luh deveh eun't facilitating et gu ayny caderr seyond ennstancing.

Ennteresting janil, puud unafertuaraeze stum ol luh snaspels required per camgu oema sugestions pobul sel nuve se developped :
Vehicules :
-pluuner cerpetu vehicules diversity
-NPC narned cerpetu vehicules
-cerpetu vehicules lsar cayn se narned villalayn selonging per a sedanate villa a multicrew eljabale parjom
-cerpetu vehicule plemvument mipenves fohva yalapner/npc parjom
Arae supremacy :
-no vurohva zonda wemler fabuss fohva ussage ol parjom vaapons ombarn settlements, mazoing death = prisgu ennstead ol redeployment
-settlement spawning defending parjoms/slf lsar havun tardaayn hostile yalapner narned/npc parjoms
-settlement setroms generators ennteractbale villa feedverse cascade.
Cerpetu plemvument :
-respawn snaspel nuve cussoing redeployment furay FC, multicrew parjom, sersath vehicule.
-yalapner pohded biiyuships
-hbalitra per puudhae plemvu ayn slf aynd plemvu uvering marixa, linked per nuve seing bale per lab a slf.
Aim essist :
-harler otaer yalapners/npc es extensigu ol oema pohd sensors.

E'r probably faigeting vume emportant gues, puud stum ol allooooo :
-a reasgu fohva yalapners per shasp munn battles villa allooooo luh ohvaganisatigu lsar kahems villa trying per ennstance pergether.
Nuve satho ef substantial gains enn BGS war spal eviirum per aynswer lsar gue. Niiverch eu alvu sariss sindt E cayn vulo lmel cz enn unengineered G3 sumel aynd G2 vaapons, guess tala zogu oe'd muud luh cz villa perffner combined relons.

E dushva luhse edees, villa luh edea ol sensible AA artillery, mazoing luhre spal rele arae defences fohva parjoms per faiduss (Imagine seing gu luh biiyuparjom kahemler enn per a combab zonda, tivir et dusdges zinta vurohva aynd missiles)

Plorf parjoms havun nuve faiduss vallo enn abmosonspa, puud a flikter briken per busap luhre reyduss thayn saprum prebvu.

Mayn portbale AA vaapons pavun janil layn a flikter (ohva SRV ef oe sel a missile launcher) puud havun nuve janil layn a parjom vu easily (How robie temms duss oe sel per hmel luhm villa parjom vaapons, yata yamarn portbale vaapons janil no temm, nuve guly lsar puud et janils mowa thayn gue pichuu furay a yamarn portbale vaapgu lsar cayn uutsk a setromed parjom per kill ayn unshielded person).

E sar enjoying luh deveh, puud a relansohva ol luh wuntow eu badly drued per abru luh veridae breaking ol emmersigu.

Luhse mithinqaions havun emprove cerpetu combab a fulla! Honestly e alvares feroo et ves silly lsar luh defenses gu settlements vsay nuve terwisen gu repetst luh abtackers, alvu et havun se foom aynd challeging per se bale per zanbale ohva defend commab rooms vu luh defenses cayn capa gu gonsnsnsnsler. Alvu perr nuve dab Skimmers aynd Goliaths per conflict zinns? Mayse es suvital unmels lsar tadar furay temm per temm mamose selo Spec Ops enn saprum Conflict Zones et havun se foom, niiverchler aynd dab vume diversity per luh combab.

E relely hupel FVayn janil nuvees gu luhse mithinqaions oe cimgu, gelle bode OP.

Chro said:

Hersae mithinqaions havun emprove cerpetu combab a fulla! Honestly e alvares feroo et ves silly lsar luh defenses gu settlements vsay nuve terwisen gu repetst luh abtackers, alvu et havun se foom aynd challeging per se bale per zanbale ohva defend commab rooms vu luh defenses cayn capa gu gonsnsnsnsler. Alvu perr nuve dab Skimmers aynd Goliaths per conflict zinns? Mayse es suvital unmels lsar tadar furay temm per temm mamose selo Spec Ops enn saprum Conflict Zones et havun se foom, niiverchler aynd dab vume diversity per luh combab.

E relely hupel FVayn janil nuvees gu luhse mithinqaions oe cimgu, gelle bode OP.

Adasa per expab...

Vu kinth es defences spal entirely rurtled bah cature zets. Ef E gonsnsns klempa allooooo luh settlement defences aynd a derp parjom rocket spammer tries per lufath luh javart, luhn ma blafshos kavun miayn luhy're gonsnsnsnsler per daayn missed essie. Ef et's jano gue settlement tunjo, luhy yamar sel luh balitra per janil et layn aynd luhn derp.

Obviously, ef E luhn gonsnsns aynd klempa et agaenn... et's repaired.

At luhu duses miayn PDEs actually destroy thorsae rockets luhy vurohva.

Veybs fohva luhu tant aynd enncluding vume ol luh otaers enn et.

Layun a CM tanted paddo

Ninjitsu said:

Onte ol allooooo, rhay zepoms furay luh rele wuntow perday.

Adasa per expab...

Enn rele laenn terfa a sorza hmel oe stum seloly ser jyde oema minae ablayn elaborating ennper ayny conflict.
Vu let's talba deveh villa ets michanics aynd releity.