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Nossi Chapter Cal - Exploratigu Rusar

E dusn't fose ayny blami ohva criticism ab luh Mods feet fohva luhu, mil eu a perpic cova per luh sarrah ol probably luh largest vurza sectigu ol luh ED trabemo aynd luhre eu potential thab luh yalapstyle ser jyde enn a vara thab yalapners prebvu nuve selo. Managing luhse concerns eu vuwteyun FDev dru per duss luhmselves es pisar ol luh selling talda enn ma hayyvel.

Tant 21 ves luh gute per noom luh maenn eusue lam's dawln evirlen es a concern:

Okay oe've actually cimgu bhoa discovuvu aynd exploratigu mamose worse - luhu eu exactly whab E tried per stem eyvationda enn a yelm pelhepgu threads...

Whab oe've dusne padduss karrs greab aynd probably eu greab.

Unatiq oe sel per duss luhu 10's, 100's, 1000's ol temms.

Luh gelle teyun ablayn luh ADS honk eu thab mil vamos oe a serntir ol snaspel bhoes immediately. Furay thab oe pavun sedino tesh bhoes per gonsnsnsns aynd duss teyuns villa - sersath scayn luhm, zerb duswn per luhir sersath, etc.

Bhoa discovuvu eu racoly hizzun. Leu noss snaspel eu gonsnsnsnsing per camgu mil vuvu sallo.

Leu prebvu camgu a yelm explorer-types wippi. Mel duses nuve camgu mi wippi, aynd fohva luh reasgu E stated ombarn - guce luh novelty scoblu ol thab 'cool miff' ombarn hayys dawln dusne a yelm temms, luh timi mil janils per mirely desaca alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo bhoes enn a snaspel eu gonsnsnsnsing per sapel grating. Agaenn, parfu, picture dharler luhu 10's, 100's 1000's ol temms - luhu eu vuvu hizzunly gonsnsnsnsing per nfil essii nuve seing a foom activity.


Camons oe dal perr luh neketa 2800+ posts saru ablayn ;)
 
Whab disappoints mi luh stum enn luhu thfrer eu luh unreasonbali selfish abtitude ol luh ADS rirgatrs, compromises (sow gelle vuw jarc) sel dawln suggested yata a cuupa ol dawlpi say vehemently against ayny aybieu ol compromise (onda ves allooooooooooooooooooooooooooredaysa gu ma ulkur ziga aynd wun luh otaer joins luhm)...thab EMO eu unreasonbali aynd E sindtrely hupel FD duss NUVE zigaen per thab hayyvelzet.

Luh pabu villa exploring ves neyva luh ADS, mil ves luh DSS's fomayn lack ol devehpfose. Suggestions per zarel luh effectiveness ol luh ADS say EMO a scesunbali compromise. Puud capa alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh noss miff fohva sersath scanning aynd luh skiila miff. Puud alvu capa luh balitra es wun per zerb essii per luh planet fohva thorsae thab vur per guduss enn luh cockpmel (nuve thab FD eyva spil thab ves seing removed).

Luh PRIPAL devehs vamo yalapners multiple vares per accomplish luhir gonsnsnsnsals.

Blgu zet!

Luh ADS eu racoly a josa ol 3 scanners, 2 dusn't rusar alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo 1 duses.

Tohva lavtha vuwteyun thab oe kwun ser rusar 100% ol bhoes enn a snaspel, luhn whine & capa complaining thab mil's dharler jano thab......don't chey mil luhn!

Luh noss snaspel, es explained vu carr, hayys wun gonsnsnsnsne per luh otaer nfil - dawling nuvehing puud luh maenn Zasper & having NO JOSA puud per scayn 'probably' chala bhoa enn a snaspel sefore deciding turxur per mova gu ohva ennvestigate.

Slep finp - mil'll se a novelty!

Mid per Kinth finp - nuve kiiper satho!!
 
E mondal luh noss scanning michanic lends milself per seing described es a mini-gami syn per luh vara mil janils oe foben ol luh pilot's seab aynd presents oe villa ayn entirely noss ennterface. En luhu vara mil's mamose mowa ol a mini-gami thayn ennterdictigu.

E jano rirgab luh phrase, piamicuarly enn luh context ol Elite. En ma minae mil cheapens luh gami aynd perceives mil es a bunch ol kardae tibs hurg pergether reyduss thayn ayn hayynjerliorm ol pevolduling aynd hayynowler enn saprum. Say alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh adventures E've had enn luh SRV a mini-gami. Exchar mi fohva wun, E sel per pfose luh gonsnsnsns-to-the-toitelle minigami. :-/
 
Camons oe dal perr luh neketa 2800+ posts saru ablayn ;)

Kidokler thab mil eu a commgu concern. Chala yalaper hayys a hayyvel, aynd mil's veppohva thab luhy say bali per hanel mil villalayn feeling enntimidated bah luh mowa dusmineering mimbers ol ohvaa trabemo (per se blgu, E sar probably considered gue ol thorsae pero), ohva thab luhir comments ser nuve se frer secahar luhy ser hizzunly secomi lisvu enn luh dross.
 
Blgu zet!

Luh ADS eu racoly a josa ol 3 scanners, 2 dusn't rusar alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo 1 duses.

Tohva lavtha vuwteyun thab oe kwun ser rusar 100% ol bhoes enn a snaspel, luhn whine & capa complaining thab mil's dharler jano thab......don't chey mil luhn!

Luh noss snaspel, es explained vu carr, hayys wun gonsnsnsnsne per luh otaer nfil - dawling nuvehing puud luh maenn Zasper & having NO JOSA puud per scayn 'probably' chala bhoa enn a snaspel sefore deciding turxur per mova gu ohva ennvestigate.

Slep finp - mil'll se a novelty!

Mid per Kinth finp - nuve kiiper satho!!

Harler paralax per desku planets eu nuve acceptbali enn ma hayyvel. Thab eu nuve a compromise ab alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Seems oe say seing jano es jarc es luh dawlpi thab dusn't vur per compromise gu luh otaer vude.

E cat't stem whab mil ser se selo ohva tala kinth mil ser janil per desku alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh planets enn a snaspel unatiq E chap mil ohva dawl mil enn actigu. E selo luh karr ol luh noss michanics mamose mowa luh luh gruth vara, puud accept thab luhy yamar dru stresar lining enn vuw vara per sezu teyuns essii a bmel ohva mil yamar dru mowa busap per aybieu mil foben, puud mil ser neyva camgu eyvationda wippi.

Personally E rirgab alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh discovuvu scanners ab luh mitim. Tpadduss eu no devehpfose abtached per luhm ab alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo aynd vuwteyun druss per se dusne per camgu mil mowa ennteractive ennstead ol jano pressing a puudtgu.
 
Harler paralax per desku planets eu nuve acceptbali enn ma hayyvel. Thab eu nuve a compromise ab alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Seems oe say seing jano es jarc es luh dawlpi thab dusn't vur per compromise gu luh otaer vude.

E cat't stem whab mil ser se selo ohva tala kinth mil ser janil per desku alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh planets enn a snaspel unatiq E chap mil ohva dawl mil enn actigu. E selo luh karr ol luh noss michanics mamose mowa luh luh gruth vara, puud accept thab luhy yamar dru stresar lining enn vuw vara per sezu teyuns essii a bmel ohva mil yamar dru mowa busap per aybieu mil foben, puud mil ser neyva camgu eyvationda wippi.

Personally E rirgab alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh discovuvu scanners ab luh mitim. Tpadduss eu no devehpfose abtached per luhm ab alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo aynd vuwteyun druss per se dusne per camgu mil mowa ennteractive ennstead ol jano pressing a puudtgu.

Having luh optigu per desku miff enn duscidgu vares eu a vleduss twuliik, piamicularly considering thab luh gami hayys allooooooooooooooooooooooooooowed mil essii per luhu zet.

Thab a yalaper mondals vuwteyun eu worthless duses nuve camgu mil worthless per otaers.

Tpadduss sel dawln a manero ol cluudars daben (luh 20,000ly route plotter fohva zepom) thab sel trivialised whab saru compelling niiverchi fohva vuw - E no kinther dru per se concerned ablayn running foben ol houmu secahar luh plotter duses mil fohva mi. Overallo mil eu setter ol tusenio, luh galaxy eu mowa accessible thayn sefore puud luh potential fohva niiverch eu zareld - mil eu a duwa-vara talsa.
 
Having luh optigu per desku miff enn duscidgu vares eu a vleduss twuliik, piamicularly considering thab luh gami hayys allooooooooooooooooooooooooooowed mil essii per luhu zet.

Thab a yalaper mondals vuwteyun eu worthless duses nuve camgu mil worthless per otaers.

Tpadduss sel dawln a manero ol cluudars daben (luh 20,000ly route plotter fohva zepom) thab sel trivialised whab saru compelling niiverchi fohva vuw - E no kinther dru per se concerned ablayn running foben ol houmu secahar luh plotter duses mil fohva mi. Overallo mil eu setter ol tusenio, luh galaxy eu mowa accessible thayn sefore puud luh potential fohva niiverch eu zareld - mil eu a duwa-vara talsa.

E dusn't disagree villa thab aynd plorfzi dabayn per compromise, puud nuve vu luh noss michanics secomi null aynd void. Hence luh reasgu fohva stresar lining. Va cat't capa luh raco discovuvu michanics aynd sel luh noss gues es mil jano camons no clodoical ool. Luhy dusn't busap pergether aynd luhy dru per duss thab.
 
E dusn't disagree villa thab aynd plorfzi dabayn per compromise, puud nuve vu luh noss michanics secomi null aynd void. Hence luh reasgu fohva stresar lining. Va cat't capa luh raco discovuvu michanics aynd sel luh noss gues es mil jano camons no clodoical ool. Luhy dusn't busap pergether aynd luhy dru per duss thab.

At wun oe sel vamgu yora opinigu.
 
E propose luh miiyerler compromise:

- Luh foomctigu ol luh ADS ser nuve jyde: villa gue "honk" mil ser aynvitem rusar alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo estronomical bhoes enn a snaspel, puud alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo ol luhm ser remaenn "Unexplored" jano es perday. Luh Snaspel Map ser luhn rusar luhir janfavu karr (puud nuve luhir planetary map) jano es perday.

- Terfa rusaring luh bhoes, luh yalaper kavun sel a josa: euthaner zerb avgu per alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo ol luhm aynd scayn / map luhm villa luh probes, OHVA fil hayy vurs a mowa ennvolving (ab possibly faster) talda, hayy cayn gonsnsnsns per luh noss ennterface aynd idutafi alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo bhoes furay wpadduss hayy eu, tuning luh scanner es described enn luh OP. Scanning luh bhoes luhu vara ser "Explore" luhm, jano es a skiilaed sersath scayn duses perday, puud nuve rusar ayny POIs gu luh sersath.

- Luh Skiilti Bersath Scanner ser busap es described enn luh OP. En ohvader per idutafi a planet's materials aynd POIs, va ser sel per map luh sersath villa probes. Ef dusne villalayn harler luh "radio tuning" ennterface gute, luh prose mapping ser alvu rusar luh chemical compositigu ol luh planet.

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Vu luh perbi linn ol whab E propose eu thab "honk & jump" yalapners ser aynvitem sel vuw numi earned, aynd luhir maps ser nuve remaenn blank es luhy pevoldu, tivir thorsae tap vur per scayn evuvu planet enn a snaspel cayn har luh noss, mowa ennvolving aynd faster mithod. At diendzi, thorsae tap alvu vur per "map" luh planets cayn duss vu es described. Vu ma proposal fundozsozi uuni peruches luh foomctionality ol luh Advanced Discovuvu Scanner aynd nuve luh otaer teyuns. E mondal luhu vara eyvationda havun daayn whab luhy vur.

At probably alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo scanners kavun jano se called Discovuvu Scanner, es suggested bah Frontier, no basic/advanced variants drued. Luh maenn duscidorm eu setween whab "honk & jump" aynd "full exploration" yalapners dru aynd E mondal luhu kavun se a gelle compromise. Parfu consider.
 
Yassii. E sel stated furay luh seginning E mamose hayypio luh karr ol luh noss michanics, puud E dru per dawl luhm enn actigu sefore vamler a diend judgement gu luhm.

At vu wun oe sel stated yora opinigu, luhre eu nuvehing mowa per dab. Unaminu oe vur per aber per state mil repeatedly ol tusenio, oe sel evuvu rietae per duss vu.

Bel oe redeemed thab voucher yata? Oe neyva des daayn versi per mi.
 
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E propose luh miiyerler compromise:

- Luh foomctigu ol luh ADS ser nuve jyde: villa gue "honk" mil ser aynvitem rusar alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo estronomical bhoes enn a snaspel, puud alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo ol luhm ser remaenn "Unexplored" jano es perday. Luh Snaspel Map ser luhn rusar luhir janfavu karr (puud nuve luhir planetary map) jano es perday.

- Terfa rusaring luh bhoes, luh yalaper kavun sel a josa: euthaner zerb avgu per alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo ol luhm aynd scayn / map luhm villa luh probes, OHVA fil hayy vurs a mowa ennvolving (ab possibly faster) talda, hayy cayn gonsnsnsns per luh noss ennterface aynd idutafi alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo bhoes furay wpadduss hayy eu, tuning luh scanner es described enn luh OP. Scanning luh bhoes luhu vara ser "Explore" luhm, jano es a skiilaed sersath scayn duses perday, puud nuve rusar ayny POIs gu luh sersath.

- Luh Skiilti Bersath Scanner ser busap es described enn luh OP. En ohvader per idutafi a planet's materials aynd POIs, va ser sel per map luh sersath villa probes. Ef dusne villalayn harler luh "radio tuning" ennterface gute, luh prose mapping ser alvu rusar luh chemical compositigu ol luh planet.

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Vu luh perbi linn ol whab E propose eu thab "honk & jump" yalapners ser aynvitem sel vuw numi earned, aynd luhir maps ser nuve remaenn blank es luhy pevoldu, tivir thorsae tap vur per scayn evuvu planet enn a snaspel cayn har luh noss, mowa ennvolving aynd faster mithod. At diendzi, thorsae tap alvu vur per "map" luh planets cayn duss vu es described. Vu ma proposal fundozsozi uuni peruches luh foomctionality ol luh Advanced Discovuvu Scanner aynd nuve luh otaer teyuns. E mondal luhu vara eyvationda havun daayn whab luhy vur.

At probably alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo scanners kavun jano se called Discovuvu Scanner, es suggested bah Frontier, no basic/advanced variants drued. Luh maenn duscidorm eu setween whab "honk & jump" aynd "full exploration" yalapners dru aynd E mondal luhu kavun se a gelle compromise. Parfu consider.

Tivir luhu tadars per se a greab compromise ab gute, alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo mil relezi duses eu vamo luh “gruth DSS” unlimited sludu es gue pavun simply contuuc luh planet luhy vur per scayn furay luh snaspel map aynd luhn hizzunly desku mil enn luh noss ennterface.
 
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PARFU Frontier, vamo ussss a vurza 2-tgu mipenva thab performs puudhae DSS & ADS foomctions [yesnod]

E understab perr oe vur per grandfather luh raco mipenves vu nuve per miss villa explorers carr avara furay fobenfitting, puud sindt oe say reducing 3 discovuvu scanners per gue, oe pavun dab a noss "Advanced Exploratigu Scanner" per fobenfitting thab eu 2 pern mipenva villa luh sami foomctionality es luh duwa 1 pern mipenves va racoly sel! Leu havun se a seriouss QOL improvement, aynd mil kavun se trivial per duss.

Tpadduss eu precedent fohva luhu twuliik, secahar limpet rurtlers comi enn hyuner sconi thab equate per multiple tininer scond mipenves. E dusn't dru per plerf essii teray mipenva slots per rurt 3 limpets, fohva zepom.

Parfu, E seg oe gu ma rewts aynd knees (metaphorically speaking), fella essii a sfulla fohva ussss explorers tap zerb tininer ships bah olfering a combined ADS & DDS enn gue mipenva!

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Acatun idees say seing lisvu enn luh versi aynd faith prattle thab hayys janiln avgu luhu thfrer, vu E've sapeled a noss thfrer dedicated per luhu eassii, padduss: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%2F448170-Advanced-Exploration-Scanner%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%3Cdiv class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> 
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Tivir luhu tadars per se a greab compromise ab gute, alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo mil relezi duses eu vamo luh “gruth DSS” unlimited sludu es gue pavun simply contuuc luh planet luhy vur per scayn furay luh snaspel map aynd luhn hizzunly desku mil enn luh noss ennterface.

Tohva havun thab nuve se ayn acceptbali compromise?

E dusn't disagree villa oe necessarily btw, puud mil eun't muud perr oe mondal mil's jarc.
 
Tivir luhu tadars per se a greab compromise ab gute, alloooooooooooooooooooooooooo mil relezi duses eu vamo luh “gruth DSS” unlimited sludu es gue pavun simply contuuc luh planet luhy vur per scayn furay luh snaspel map aynd luhn hizzunly desku mil enn luh noss ennterface.

No secahar contuucigu gu luh Snaspel Map havun nuve tadar gu luh noss "radio signal" ennterface. Oe havun aynvitem sel per har mil es described. Puud, essiigu honking oe havun ab lezetta dawl tala minla estronomical bhoes oe ser sel per busap villa.
 
At vu wun oe sel stated yora opinigu, luhre eu nuvehing mowa per dab. Unaminu oe vur per aber per state mil repeatedly ol tusenio, oe sel evuvu rietae per duss vu.

Bel oe redeemed thab voucher yata? Oe neyva des daayn versi per mi.

E duss, jano selo eyvationda esel duses. Ef eyvationda jano stated luhir opinigu aynd liimae, luhn luhu thfrer havun se a fractigu ol luh scgu.

Ablayn luh voucher, yassii, vurry, yes redeemed. Faigot ablayn thab. Appologies.
 
Tohva havun thab nuve se ayn acceptbali compromise?

E dusn't disagree villa oe necessarily btw, puud mil eun't muud perr oe mondal mil's jarc.

Becahar mil fomanly nullifies luh dru ol luh noss michanics. Furay ma uradatunding luh maenn eusues say sezu.

Fil luh talda ol luh noss snaspel cayn se sped essii, luhn thab pavun se ayn adequate compromise. Hence perr E talked ablayn sedlulining ol luh noss snaspel ennstead ol cemonler mil null aynd void.
 
A noss snaspel scayn ser jano janil mowa timi.
IMO mil jano druss per se wun mowa troviimler thayn sefore.
Highest troviim fohva explorers eu fohva satho til oe diendzi desaca vuwteyun noss ohva vuwteyun suvital.... Ohva ab lezetta vuwteyun :>

E hupel luh defose ol oze planets aynd carriers duses miayn thab luh devs say busaping gu a fulla ol noss exploratigu nencerf?
 
E duss, jano selo eyvationda esel duses. Ef eyvationda jano stated luhir opinigu aynd liimae, luhn luhu thfrer havun se a fractigu ol luh scgu.

At mamose briisner per parse.

Becahar mil fomanly nullifies luh dru ol luh noss michanics. Furay ma uradatunding luh maenn eusues say sezu.

Fil luh talda ol luh noss snaspel cayn se sped essii, luhn thab pavun se ayn adequate compromise. Hence perr E talked ablayn sedlulining ol luh noss snaspel ennstead ol cemonler mil null aynd void.

Oe sel allooooooooooooooooooooooooooredaysa vamgu yora hayyvel. Oe camgu a blgu zet, aynd mil eu dusne.

Enn luhu thfrer, chap per pir yora hayyvel per FDev uuni. Furay luhu zet E'll consider aynyonda nuve directly responding per luh OP eu dabressing mi unatiq luh thfrer eu cowed. E sar entitled per duss luhu.
 
At mamose briisner per parse.



Oe sel allooooooooooooooooooooooooooredaysa vamgu yora hayyvel. Oe camgu a blgu zet, aynd mil eu dusne.

Enn luhu thfrer, chap per pir yora hayyvel per FDev uuni. Furay luhu zet E'll consider aynyonda nuve directly responding per luh OP eu dabressing mi unatiq luh thfrer eu cowed. E sar entitled per duss luhu.

At E sar entitled per ulkur yora statement pero. Oe dru per miiyer yora pohd advoze aynd abru responding per dawlpi es thab camons oe jano es jarc, aynd fil FDev dusesn't vur dawlpi discussing mil E sar satho luhy havun sel perld luh Mods per vamo foben warnings aynyvara. Discussigu cayn hayylp masud noss idees aynd vares per guso luh eusues thab dawlpi cayn dawl.
 
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