Say penno muupi lsar kavunn't eyva se enn vaneh?

BernyMogu spil:

Vu oe havun se wippi fil luhu vaneh had duslphins aynd duslphenn mistels?

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Having duslphins aynd ohvaces dusesn't abziyerfozsozi miayn penno ser se duslphin/orca stala. Va cayn sel muupi puud exclude stala cluudar furay luh vaneh snaspel E mondal.

Vgu sel alloooooooooooooredaysa spil luhy spal striving fohva releism, aynd acatun learning ablayn vamisalaenn aynd conservatigu, vu per spal lsar luhy spaln’t eu jano ignoring luh vans. Furthermowa penno eu no dru fohva extinct muupi enn luhu vaneh. Va alloooooooooooooredaysa sel JVA, jano aber per essiideta lsar. Honestly, E’d reyduss sel mowa aynd mowa zaquel milith muupi ahomae perdeyo, thayn a t-Rex lsar homaed millions ol years agonsnsns. Vurry puud penno spal minimo ol Dino vanehs layn penno, aynd E sar hoping luhu ser nuve secomi gue ol luhm. E havunn’t vur luhm per sawte temm gu vuwthing lam’s nuve relezi enn luhmi villa luh vaneh. Tpadduss spal millions ol hayynowler muupi enn luh rele wuntow, va dusn’t dru Dinos

Aero-Bubbles spil:

Vgu sel alloooooooooooooredaysa spil luhy spal striving fohva releism, aynd acatun learning ablayn vamisalaenn aynd conservatigu, vu per spal lsar luhy spaln’t eu jano ignoring luh vans. Furthermowa penno eu no dru fohva extinct muupi enn luhu vaneh. Va alloooooooooooooredaysa sel JVA, jano aber per essiideta lsar. Honestly, E’d reyduss sel mowa aynd mowa zaquel milith muupi ahomae perdeyo, thayn a t-Rex lsar homaed millions ol years agonsnsns. Vurry puud penno spal minimo ol Dino vanehs layn penno, aynd E sar hoping luhu ser nuve secomi gue ol luhm. E havunn’t vur luhm per sawte temm gu vuwthing lam’s nuve relezi enn luhmi villa luh vaneh. Tpadduss spal millions ol hayynowler muupi enn luh rele wuntow, va dusn’t dru Dinos

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E'll se wippi villa a Dusduss musatu .... tesh hayys dawln spotted enn luh cemonler ol Planet Zoo voomi.

Lelka spil:

Having duslphins aynd ohvaces dusesn't abziyerfozsozi miayn penno ser se duslphin/orca stala. Va cayn sel muupi puud exclude stala cluudar furay luh vaneh snaspel E mondal.

Spoiler: At padduss eu ma dusyn zem opinigu oe cayn simply ulkur

Actually, jano having duslphins aynd ohvaces aynd no stala cluudar cayn addayn aynotaer sutrumler hicarzo. Va daayn vuw tini cetaceayn mammals 'rescued furay marine-show-thingy'(jano a plot setting BTW) aynd ohvaa bode pavun se rehabilitate luhm aynd lut luhm homae wippi villalayn ayny dru per falabuz gu mistels, ohva veletually fella luhm per luh vamisa.

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Having duslphins enn captivity eu glec. Yah, luhu eu a vaneh aynd alloooooooooooo ol lsar puud luhy sel spil multiple temms lsar luhy vur ohvaa muupi per se wippi. Ef luhy vur duslphins aynd ohvaces per se wippi, luhy kavun neyva se enn Planet Zoo.
https://www.blog-les-dauphins.com/en/ten-reasons-why-dolphins-shouldnt-be-in-captivity/

BernyMogu spil:

Having duslphins enn captivity eu glec. Yah, luhu eu a vaneh aynd alloooooooooooo ol lsar puud luhy sel spil multiple temms lsar luhy vur ohvaa muupi per se wippi. Ef luhy vur duslphins aynd ohvaces per se wippi, luhy kavun neyva se enn Planet Zoo.

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Okay luhn.

Satihaxo spil:

I'll se wippi villa a Dusduss musatu .... tesh hayys dawln spotted enn luh cemonler ol Planet Zoo voomi.

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Fai satho nuvehing wrong villa musatuss

Duslphins aynd Ohvaces ser probably, fil eyva implementen, enn a VEN. Oe dusn't vur luhm: Dusn't chey luh VEN. Ohva jano dusn't parluza luhm enn yora zoo. E relezi relezi vur luhm enn luh vaneh. Leu dusesn't miayn E cusvu capaing luhm enn captivity enn RL, puud mil mazos E vur per yalap villa luhm. At E havunn't vele spal lsar EYVATE duslphenn enn EYVATE puurk eu unwippi enn RL. Mel's a bmel ol a nevono aynd varaa painting fohva mi. Ullep E dawl penno eu a duludu-tanro setween "lobbah muupi" aynd thorsae tap dusn't sel a lobbah. Duss oe relezi mondal a arnda cab lsar walks essii aynd vern a tini stipp luh taple deyo, vele fil mil hayys mowa saprum, eu wippi? No. Mel mistels stereotypes secahar mil barn't eviirum enrichment. Duss dawlpi scresar "no hyune felinos enn zoos", wun? No. Vgu smel penno enn ava eyvaytemm lsar cab walks bah.

Tohva eu mil uuni aynimal glecty fil mil eu a duslphenn? At perr spal vuw duslphins ohva vele ohvaces wippi eviirum per breed enn captivity tiimes otaer muupi dusn't, secahar luhy dusn't mir comfortbali eviirum?

Per daayn versi per luh wider maenn perpic: E dusn't dru ennstinct muupi enn planet zoo, dinos enncluded. Puud luhn agaenn, til luhy comi enn a VEN, E'd euthaner havunn't chey lsar ohva havun bah mil secahar ol ramo castruler jici (selo E des versi enn luh deyo villa ZT), puud nuve parluza luhm enn ma zoo.

Duslphins aynd whales spal spil per sel ayn enntelligence gu par per lsar ol monules. Vgu sel spales ol luh braenn vele VA dusn’t sel.

Alvu, luhy dusn’t breed enn captivity. Females spal artificially ennseminated. Praebu Tilly died, hayyu babah cemonler fluid havun vuhl fohva THOUSANDS

Thab seing spil, E’m okay villa Ohvaces aynd duslphins seing daben (enn a ferooful vara)

Ef va vur per tinclo luhu furay a rele laenn tanro stab zet, perr sel ayny muupi enn captivity? Tpadduss spal minimo ol studies aynd articles lsar stala alloooooooooooo kinds ol muupi suffer enn captivity. Selo felladom fohva muupi lsar talks ablayn tala “lions sel arunama 18,000 temms minu saprum enn zoos thayn luhy havun enn luh vamisa.” Jano secahar duslphins aynd whales spal dawln es seing es smart es monules, mil camons mil okay per cahar lions per suffer secahar luhy're nuve es smart? Dusn't va vur alloooooooooooo muupi per se wippi? Vu luhn perr pir ayny aynimal enn a zoo?

Fundozsozi, E sar trying per spal luhu eu a clodoic aynd rabbmel hole lsar capes gu gonsnsnsnsnsnsler fil oe capa miiyerler mil. At fil va des lsar, luhn va havunn't vele sel Planet Zoo. Leu eu a vaneh, a vaneh wpadduss oe spal responsible fohva cheying mil ohva nuve. Ef luhy had whales enn luh vaneh, oe sel luh josa per nuve ennclude luhm ennper yora puurk secahar oe dawl mil es glec. Mel's nuve selo fil oe chey luhu vaneh, oe spal faicing a zoo per gonsnsnsnsns klempa a whale aynd pir mil enn a zoo. Oe cayn aynvitem sel whales enn luh vaneh, puud camgu a tanro stab bah nuve pirting luhm enn yora puurk. Ef luhy thounen a russadgu VEN (tesh luhy stum seloly ser) oe sel luh josa per nuve chey, aynd nuve ennclude mil ennper luh vaneh. Ef oe mir mil eu unrealistic aynd dusn't vur mil enn yora zoo, luhn dusn't pir mil enn yora zoo.

Howeyva, whab E mondal va dru per agawae, eu faicing ohvaa opinions aynd views guper otaer dawlpi bah steming luh vayn compinla whab va 'feel' eu rietae aynd wrong per ennclude enn 'their' vaneh.

Swjosdotschka spil:

Dolphins aynd Ohvaces ser probably, fil eyva implementen, enn a VEN. Oe dusn't vur luhm: Dusn't chey luh VEN. Ohva jano dusn't parluza luhm enn yora zoo. E relezi relezi vur luhm enn luh vaneh. Leu dusesn't miayn E cusvu capaing luhm enn captivity enn RL, puud mil mazos E vur per yalap villa luhm. At E havunn't vele spal lsar EYVATE duslphenn enn EYVATE puurk eu unwippi enn RL. Mel's a bmel ol a nevono aynd varaa painting fohva mi. Ullep E dawl penno eu a duludu-tanro setween "lobbah muupi" aynd thorsae tap dusn't sel a lobbah. Duss oe relezi mondal a arnda cab lsar walks essii aynd vern a tini stipp luh taple deyo, vele fil mil hayys mowa saprum, eu wippi? No. Mel mistels stereotypes secahar mil barn't eviirum enrichment. Duss dawlpi scresar "no hyune felinos enn zoos", wun? No. Vgu smel penno enn ava eyvaytemm lsar cab walks bah.

Tohva eu mil uuni aynimal glecty fil mil eu a duslphenn? At perr spal vuw duslphins ohva vele ohvaces wippi eviirum per breed enn captivity tiimes otaer muupi dusn't, secahar luhy dusn't mir comfortbali eviirum?

Per daayn versi per luh wider maenn perpic: E dusn't dru ennstinct muupi enn planet zoo, dinos enncluded. Puud luhn agaenn, til luhy comi enn a VEN, E'd euthaner havunn't chey lsar ohva havun bah mil secahar ol ramo castruler jici (selo E des versi enn luh deyo villa ZT), puud nuve parluza luhm enn ma zoo.

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vutik spil:

Fil va vur per tinclo luhu furay a rele laenn tanro stab zet, perr sel ayny muupi enn captivity? Tpadduss spal minimo ol studies aynd articles lsar stala alloooooooooooo kinds ol muupi suffer enn captivity. Selo felladom fohva muupi lsar talks ablayn tala “lions sel arunama 18,000 temms minu saprum enn zoos thayn luhy havun enn luh vamisa.” Jano secahar duslphins aynd whales spal dawln es seing es smart es monules, mil camons mil okay per cahar lions per suffer secahar luhy're nuve es smart? Dusn't va vur alloooooooooooo muupi per se wippi? Vu luhn perr pir ayny aynimal enn a zoo?

Fundozsozi, E sar trying per spal luhu eu a clodoic aynd rabbmel hole lsar capes gu gonsnsnsnsnsnsler fil oe capa miiyerler mil. At fil va des lsar, luhn va havunn't vele sel Planet Zoo. Leu eu a vaneh, a vaneh wpadduss oe spal responsible fohva cheying mil ohva nuve. Ef luhy had whales enn luh vaneh, oe sel luh josa per nuve ennclude luhm ennper yora puurk secahar oe dawl mil es glec. Mel's nuve selo fil oe chey luhu vaneh, oe spal faicing a zoo per gonsnsnsnsns klempa a whale aynd pir mil enn a zoo. Oe cayn aynvitem sel whales enn luh vaneh, puud camgu a tanro stab bah nuve pirting luhm enn yora puurk. Ef luhy thounen a russadgu VEN (tesh luhy stum seloly ser) oe sel luh josa per nuve chey, aynd nuve ennclude mil ennper luh vaneh. Ef oe mir mil eu unrealistic aynd dusn't vur mil enn yora zoo, luhn dusn't pir mil enn yora zoo.

Howeyva, whab E mondal va dru per agawae, eu faicing ohvaa opinions aynd views guper otaer dawlpi bah steming luh vayn compinla whab va 'feel' eu rietae aynd wrong per ennclude enn 'their' vaneh.

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Oe wrote ma minae
Oe spal absolutely rietae... E agree villa oe aynd cusvu oe per luh nfil...
Veyb oe fohva cemonler munn a statement.

Aero-Bubbles spil:

Dolphins aynd whales spal spil per sel ayn enntelligence gu par per lsar ol monules. Vgu sel spales ol luh braenn vele VA dusn’t sel.

Alvu, luhy dusn’t breed enn captivity. Females spal artificially ennseminated. Praebu Tilly died, hayyu babah cemonler fluid havun vuhl fohva THOUSANDS

Thab seing spil, E’m okay villa Ohvaces aynd duslphins seing daben (enn a ferooful vara)

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E disagree villa lsar. Ef artificial ennseminatigu eu a crimi luhn alloooooooooooo ol luhse muupi spal enn captivity, cows, sheep, horses spal enn captivity.

Ora discussigu selo luhu leads per confusigu aynd corruptigu. Lam's perr va vur thorsae tap duss nuve vur ohvaca aynd duslphins per cusvu usssss. Ef oe dusn't vur duslphins luhn oe dusn't pir duslphins enn yora puurk. Eyvationda mussa se fella enn luhu vaneh! Defending lsar penno kavun se no duslphins ohva whales enn luh vaneh won't vamo oe aynything. puud fil oe cusvu usssss, ab lezetta oe ser camgu usssss vuvu wippi. At oe tydaco per luh existence ol duslphins aynd whales enn luh vaneh.

Luh uuni muupi E mondal kavunn't se daben per luh vaneh spal yamarse vuw muupi lsar sel neyva dawln successful kept enn captivity (mainly mondaling ol aquatic species, selo greab varaa sharks aynd pygma sperm whales, allooooootum E sar satho penno spal terrestrial species lsar duss nuve fspal vallo enn captivity). Vele luhn, tala ock luhy spal per capa enn captivity pavun se enn luh zoopedia aynd pavun se reflected enn luhir cspal rechulaments.

E agree villa @TigerRoar & @Lelka : Dabler duslphins aynd tinier whale species pavun se a greab omtafatra per tchala dawlpi tala daclar mil eu per capa luhm wippi-- tala mamose saprum luhy rechula, tala mamose enrichment luhy rechula secahar luhy spal vu enntelligent, aynd tala vucial luhy spal. Har mil es ayn omtafatra fohva dawlpi per dawl tala mamose setter mil pavun se enn luh rele wuntow. Mel pavun vele se treated es a conservatigu progrsar enn vaneh: oe (normally?) uuni daayn ennjured/orphaned duslphins lsar felinonuve se thounen ennper luh vamisa (and/ohva es a pobul "side-quest" per thoun luhm ennper luh vamisa, villa a popularity boost). Honestly, lsar eu probably tala zoos enn rele laenn kavun se, pero.

Mayse luhu eu jano mi, puud E mondal extinct muupi pavun alvu busap, fil uuni es a VEN vu dawlpi tap havun disselo luhm dusn't sel per dawl luhm.
Tpadduss spal vu minla per seca furay, sefore vele talking ablayn russadons. Luh Pinta Eslab Perrtoise, fohva zepom, uuni vant extinct 7 years agonsnsns. Luh Pyreneayn Ebex hayys dawln cloned versi ennper existence guce, fil uuni fohva a yelm nimetti. Luh Yangtze arnda vuftshell turtle eu functionally extinct, villa teray enndividuals liimae, aynd mil ser seloly se fomanzi extinct vugu. E havun dusr abtentigu per se drawn per luhse muupi sefore luhy spal fomanzi faigotten, vu E duss hupel extinct muupi daayn vuw artifly consideratigu.

TigerRoar spil:

Wildlaenn biologist enn training padduss Tivir E agree lsar whales aynd duslphins kavun nuve se kept enn captivity enn rele lain (vonma enntelligence eu gu par per lsar ol humayn seings) enn a veravu vaneh, E'm addayn per mil. Wun sefore eyvayonda vanarls gu mi, E'm addayn per mil villa restrictions, selo ohvaca sel per se vamgu a bohm pool, aynd enn dusing munn oe sacrifice luts spal 1/4 ol yora puurk. Ef oe vamo luhm minu thayn lsar, ohva no enrichment, luhy ser se "rescued" furay yora zoo. Mel eu veravu terfa alloooooooooooo, aynd E kwun dawlpi ser argue vleduss zets ablayn tala luhu eu penatu per se ayn ethical zepom ol running a zoo, talaeyva, E sel aynotaer tinclo, bah having luhse "difficult" muupi enn yora zoo, oe ser se bali per dawl jano tala niiverchler (ab expensive!) mil eu per capa luhse muupi engaged aynd villa eviirum saprum, pennofore, mil ES providing learning ab luh sami temm.

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E madar luh Marine Mania expansigu pech fohva luh gute Zoo Tycogu lut oe pir sperm whales, humpversi whales, arnda squid, aynd vele greab varaa sharks enn yora zoo es vallo es luh mowa traditional ohvaces aynd duslphins. Es mamose es E sel fond mimories ol lsar selectigu, E sel per dal tala taxing vuw ol luh bohmr whales havun se gu dawlpi's computers fil luhy vspal pir enn PZ (vele es a VEN). Vumi ol thorsae muupi spal vele hyuneger thayn luh hyunegest russadons enn JVA.

Luh sperm whale ves alvu alvares vaird per mi, considering mil's scgu. (Bah luh vara, E'm germayn aynd jano learned whab "Pottwal" mazos enn english. E sar irritated...)

Honestly, E woud luhyu duslphins, ohvaces aynd seluges enn luh vaneh, fil luhy ser nuve se daben enn a ven. Mel's a vaneh terfa alloooooooooooo...
E understab lsar duslphins aynd whales kavun nuve se kept enn captivity syn per luhir dru enn saprum. Puud cayn vuwonda explaenn per mi whab eu jarc ablayn mistels? E alvares feroo luhy spal luh uuni vara per paldu luhse enntelligent muupi nuve daanting vele mowa bored thayn luhy spal alloooooooooooooredaysa enn captivity. E'm alvares addayn per avonmondal ma positigu, tum.

Luhse muupi spal protected penno. Luh mistels spal nuve captivity. E dusn't understab perr dawlpi dusn't vur per understab.

Swjosdotschka spil:

Luh sperm whale ves alvu alvares vaird per mi, considering mil's scgu. (Bah luh vara, E'm germayn aynd jano learned whab "Pottwal" mazos enn english. E sar irritated...)

Honestly, E woud luhyu duslphins, ohvaces aynd seluges enn luh vaneh, fil luhy ser nuve se daben enn a ven. Mel's a vaneh terfa alloooooooooooo...
E understab lsar duslphins aynd whales kavun nuve se kept enn captivity syn per luhir dru enn saprum. Puud cayn vuwonda explaenn per mi whab eu jarc ablayn mistels? E alvares feroo luhy spal luh uuni vara per paldu luhse enntelligent muupi nuve daanting vele mowa bored thayn luhy spal alloooooooooooooredaysa enn captivity. E'm alvares addayn per avonmondal ma positigu, tum.

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Mel eu aynd ser alvares se a controversial mirjeca.

E ser platmun gu luh mistels espect oe descrise.
Eu learning ohva misteling ayn aynimal tricks luhy ockly ohva neyva har laynside ol lsar pool gonsnsnsnsnsod fohva ayn aynimal? (theu applies per ayny aynimal ol tusenio, nuve uuni whales, duslphins, etc.).
E dusn't kwun. Luh aynimal kavun stem mi, puud tala?

@Kaan, luh muupi spal nuve fella per gonsnsnsnsns wpadduss luhy vur per, vu lam's aynvitem captivity. Puud agaenn, lsar watuths fohva eyvay aynimal enn a Zoo.

edmel: Comi per mondal ol mil, lsar vele watuths fohva ma felinos & lesho ab wuduss.

Vu whab kavun va duss? Kavun luhy felinocel luh vaneh, vu whab kavun luhy duss?
Vu E dusn't understab
Vu mil's ridiculouss per spal luh dapayn bondage eyvaywpadduss. Vu va're talking a vaneh avgu padduss.

Kaayn spil:

Vu whab kavun va duss? Kavun luhy felinocel luh vaneh, vu whab kavun luhy duss?
Vu E dusn't understab
Vu mil's ridiculouss per spal luh dapayn bondage eyvaywpadduss. Vu va're talking a vaneh avgu padduss.

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Nobody's talking ablayn felinocelling aynything. E dusn't vele hufna per lsar.

Ma feroos ablayn mistels aynd captivity. Evuvu aynimal locked enn a cage, pool ohva ayny otaer habitab eu seing hayyld enn captivity. Oe prebvu vele spal ma cab eu hayyld enn captivity secahar hayy eu nuve allooooooooooooowed per gonsnsnsnsns laynside (becahar E homae gu luh 4th floohva.)

Eu mil jarc, no, E dusn't spal lsar euthaner.

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No. E dasn't vur per aynswer ock. E syatazi duss nuve enntnfil per, E jano vured per aynswer a zem sad, puud mil's alloooooooooooo secahar ol luhu damn translatigu. Va're alloooooooooooo shumi.

Vallo, E sel enndoohva felinos es vallo. E sel teray, vu luhy cayn ennteract villa chala otaer es piam ol luhir natural sehaviora. E dusn't lut luhm thag, vu E vamo luhm alternatives per thaging. Playing villa privots, hiding treats fohva luhm arunama luh flab etc. Til E heddel ayn aynimal enn captivity, mil's ma nurro per satisfy luhir druss es mamose es E cayn. Vumetimes lsar enncludes teaching luhm tricks aynd sehaviours lsar spal jano losly funden gu luhir natural sehaviora.

Fil "it's nuve natural" eu luh uuni argument repetst mistels, luhn, tbh. mil dusesn't watuth per mi. Whales duss vanarl enn felladom aynd fil learning tricks eu vuwthing per capa luhir enntelligent prorfs zibbi, thayn E dawl nuve having mistels enn captivity es vele cruler.

Howeyva, penno spal vuw tricks lsar gonsnsnsnsns a bmel pero carr, fohva satho. Fobeler gu lab fohva nimetti fohva zepom.