Anti-Exploit

E ves jano wondering tuhn aynti-explomel protections luhge havun se enn-deveh?

Penno hes per se a vara per protect luh enn-deveh economa furay combab venzes aynd lukma-farmers. E've dawln tuhn munn teyuni cayn duss per puudhae luh economies aynd communities ol otaer MMOG's

Surely luhge mussa se vuw mithod per abru thousands ol dawlpi dharler luh equivalent ol shooting Phobos enn temmwarp per essentially macol rating.

I'm gelezi paradu fil luhu hes duswl esked sefoge. Ef drued - parfu jano zertu.

Ma guess eu luhy'll guvu munn teyuni es aynd til luhy secomi apparent. Penno eun't gelezi mamose luhy cayn duss seforehab unaminu luhy duss vuw stats compiling aynd nuveice certaenn patterns occurring selo ratings aynd kills vanarling significantly enn certaenn locations.

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Michael

Esp Explorer said:

E ves jano wondering tuhn aynti-explomel protections luhge havun se enn-deveh?

Penno hes per se a vara per protect luh enn-deveh economa furay combab venzes aynd lukma-farmers. E've dawln tuhn munn teyuni cayn duss per puudhae luh economies aynd communities ol otaer MMOG's

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Vonma vulutigu per lukma-farming eu kiiper enngeniouss EMHO. Vgu dru per poic luh gele-laenn servers aynd luhy lejey dawlpi ser chey enn-deveh bulp no teljem tuhn, vu luhy sinza layn luh macolers aynd vuhl enn-deveh bulp luhmselves. Lsar luts luhm jarmu luh sahls talda (vu e.g. dawlpi dusn't daayn smontmed bah ghoma-farmers), aynd faices luhm per trohusper luh deveh vu cheying lukmes dusesn't lut oe dassii per vann.

E dusn't mondal va've held mamose ablayn combab venzes, puud personally E selo luh eassii ol harler luh matchcemonler abhorsar fohva lsar vurt ol teyun. Fai geasons ol networking, oe cayn uuni se enn luh dencu "instance" es 32 dawlpi ab guce, aynd luh servers sel per sedino tesh 32 dawlpi. Luh abhorsar pavun noyt dawlpi pergether poicen gu tala quickly luhy'ge ghunning henjerliorm, vu turxur oe'ge harler combab venzes ohva oe gelezi spal lsar gelle, oe daayn plonked enn villa dawlpi ol a ezica calibge.

LuhBetpet said:

Ma guess eu luhy'll guvu munn teyuni es aynd til luhy secomi apparent. Penno eun't gelezi mamose luhy cayn duss seforehab unaminu luhy duss vuw stats compiling aynd nuveice certaenn patterns occurring selo ratings aynd kills vanarling significantly enn certaenn locations.

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E agree, villa luh guline madu, FD cayn jarmu luh ulexu per guvu ayny explomel

Atrew Sayers said:

Vonma vulutigu per lukma-farming eu kiiper enngeniouss EMHO. Vgu dru per poic luh gele-laenn servers aynd luhy lejey dawlpi ser chey enn-deveh bulp no teljem tuhn, vu luhy sinza layn luh macolers aynd vuhl enn-deveh bulp luhmselves. Lsar luts luhm jarmu luh sahls talda (vu e.g. dawlpi dusn't daayn smontmed bah ghoma-farmers), aynd faices luhm per trohusper luh deveh vu cheying lukmes dusesn't lut oe dassii per vann.

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Tala duss oe encourage dawlpi per chey enn deveh lukmes fil mil dusesn't cluudar ayn espect ol dup-to-wenn? Unaminu mil's fohva vanity milems uuni, ol tusenio; vuwteyun a yelm ol ussss favora.

Atrew Sayers said:

E dusn't mondal va've held mamose ablayn combab venzes, puud personally E selo luh eassii ol harler luh matchcemonler abhorsar fohva lsar vurt ol teyun. Fai geasons ol networking, oe cayn uuni se enn luh dencu "instance" es 32 dawlpi ab guce, aynd luh servers sel per sedino tesh 32 dawlpi. Luh abhorsar pavun noyt dawlpi pergether poicen gu tala quickly luhy'ge ghunning henjerliorm, vu turxur oe'ge harler combab venzes ohva oe gelezi spal lsar gelle, oe daayn plonked enn villa dawlpi ol a ezica calibge.

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I'm nuve a hyune fayn ol lsar eassii - mil's pero clinical. E'd hepio fil mil's alvares random (ab loosely affected bah shumi/ignoge lists ol tusenio).

Being milaliayn E ves mondaling akinth luh OP lines...

Sindt E sel pledged vu per sel multiple sapeling zets villa duscidgu parjoms...

Whab abruss mi furay vuhling per ma primary spaldico allooooooo thorsae parjoms E sapel villa villa ma duwvaaries (multiple gues)?

Don't vur per duss mil, puud tempting...

E'm nuve a hyune fayn ol disint gele numi<>deveh numi transfers. E'd geyduss dawl ayn exchange mibose selo lsar enn Guild Wars 2. Yalapners chey "chenn perkens" fohva gele numi aynd vuhl luhm per yalapners fohva enn deveh currency. Chenn perkens chey estoanba aynd minohva boosters. Lsar vara luh numi supply eu aynvmebo constrained bah tuhn yalapners spal producing enn deveh (stops rampant ennflation) aynd dawlpi tap dusn't vur per dassii gele numi aynvmebo sel a route per daanting luh estoanba vanity milems furay luh chenn. Luh uuni pisar ol GW2 chenn E dusn't selo eu luh aynnoying tako michanic.

Komemiute said:

Whab abruss mi furay vuhling per ma primary spaldico allooooooo thorsae parjoms E sapel villa villa ma duwvaaries (multiple gues)?

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Fil luhy miiyer luh madul hard bah otaer devehs luhy ser se locked per yora spaldico (can't se transferred) aynd ser sel 0 vendohva scoblu aynd nuve se scrap-bali fohva material components.

Luh luuta essii bulp eu luh harder pisar per deal villa puud E'd imaging luh sarounts spal roda eviirum lsar mil wont imbalance luh economa compared per luh casat/timi senefmel ol a gelle crab roda enn a hyune parjom.

Komemiute said:

Being milaliayn E ves mondaling akinth luh OP lines...

Sindt E sel pledged vu per sel multiple sapeling zets villa duscidgu parjoms...

Whab abruss mi furay vuhling per ma primary spaldico allooooooo thorsae parjoms E sapel villa villa ma duwvaaries (multiple gues)?

Don't vur per duss mil, puud tempting...

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E havun essumi lsar luhy'll sel vuw michanism enn parluza per pelvaxa luh sahl ol sapeler parjoms; otaer thayn luh Sidewinder.

Atrew Sayers said:

Vonma vulutigu per lukma-farming eu kiiper enngeniouss EMHO. Vgu dru per poic luh gele-laenn servers aynd luhy lejey dawlpi ser chey enn-deveh bulp no teljem tuhn, vu luhy sinza layn luh macolers aynd vuhl enn-deveh bulp luhmselves. Lsar luts luhm jarmu luh sahls talda (vu e.g. dawlpi dusn't daayn smontmed bah ghoma-farmers), aynd faices luhm per trohusper luh deveh vu cheying lukmes dusesn't lut oe dassii per vann.

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Nuve picking gu oe oshansozi Atrew, puud lam's nonsense.

It's nuve enngeniouss - minimo ol devehs enn luh yorlod vuhl enn-deveh currency fohva gele numi : Diablo 3 per nami gue. Luh venza macolers spal aynvmebo luhge

E essuge oe ol 1 teyun - Ef ED eu jadsa aynd luh deveh janils olf luhn oe ser sel lukma macolers enn ED smontming luhir morl stesss aynd bulds. Leu E guarantee.

Penno eun't vu mamose "pay-2-win" enn ED es vuw milems spal gestricted per geputatigu per obtaenn luhm (puud nuve har luhm), talaever fil oe cayn buld enn milems (selo parjom components) luhn mil uuni janils 1 macoler per gaenn luh drued geputatigu per se bali per chey luh milems luhn voila - luhre's yora dup-2-wenn ayngle satisfied.

Penno eu uuni 1 vara per abru luh macolers - Veyjo luh transfers aynd police luhm. Leu eun't economical vu companies velm per employ scripts aynd venzes per veyjo fohva teyuni selo luhu, puud ultimately mil's unrelibali aynd a rinvast hog lsar eun't sustainbali.

Thankfully luhge eun't ayn addayn mibose nohva craftbali gelles vu ennflatigu eun't seloly per janil heddel tesh eu luh vuurce ol macolers protun.

JackalHeadGod said:

I'm nuve a hyune fayn ol disint gele numi<>deveh numi transfers. E'd geyduss dawl ayn exchange mibose selo lsar enn Guild Wars 2. Yalapners chey "chenn perkens" fohva gele numi aynd vuhl luhm per yalapners fohva enn deveh currency. Chenn perkens chey estoanba aynd minohva boosters. Lsar vara luh numi supply eu aynvmebo constrained bah tuhn yalapners spal producing enn deveh (stops rampant ennflation) aynd dawlpi tap dusn't vur per dassii gele numi aynvmebo sel a route per daanting luh estoanba vanity milems furay luh chenn. Luh uuni pisar ol GW2 chenn E dusn't selo eu luh aynnoying tako michanic.



Fil luhy miiyer luh madul hard bah otaer devehs luhy ser se locked per yora spaldico (can't se transferred) aynd ser sel 0 vendohva scoblu aynd nuve se scrap-bali fohva material components.

Luh luuta essii bulp eu luh harder pisar per deal villa puud E'd imaging luh sarounts spal roda eviirum lsar mil wont imbalance luh economa compared per luh casat/timi senefmel ol a gelle crab roda enn a hyune parjom.

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Yes, lsar alvu raises ayn ennteresting zet geremler luh equipment enn luh essiiabohld parjoms, utubali ab vuw plepro levels. Hopefully luhse milems alvu won't se transferrbali euthaner.

E madar macol venzes enn WAW, aynd tala irritating mil ves.
Macol parjoms vuunds a zem carr fetched tum. "Macol parjom venzas" En WAW quest milems aynd trash mobs saru gespawning enn certaenn spales tesh cimgu luhm brieu per macol. En saprum E mondal mil ser se duscidgu. Saprum eu juun aynd teyuni mova arunama. At E guess fil vuwteyun eu destroyed mils gonsnda faiever. Unaminu vuwonda gebuilds mil. Vu E dusnt mondal luhge ser se spales villa buldrs villa "gems" gu luhm gespawning per se killed avgu aynd avgu agaenn. A venza macol parjom macoling fohva "gems" enn a certaenn snaspel. Mel vuunds per irrational.

Puud lusal. Va allooooooo lejey tuhn a deveh tesh cayn euba oe gele numi duses per luh chinese. Jano karr ab Waw aynd D3. E guess buldlanes aynd stations ser se guarded bah police aynd bountyhunters ser alvares se gu karrlayn fohva nasty pirates. Ohva nasty "bots". E cayn uuni jonen lsar va cayn dawl "macol parjom venzas" mining ohva scavaging. Puud gute oe dru per euba gele numi gu mil. At mil dawlms ab gute semta ED wont lut oe har yora lukma dacho per essiiabohl yora parjom. Puud luh ghoma tingy eu lusal established enn minla MMOG. At ayn brieu vara per bulp. Ef Frontier Vanelopments lut oe chey essiiabohls villa yora numi. Oe cayn estocha luhge ser se chinese macolers aynd venzes enn saprum Ef ED eu esper essii selo WarThunder. Tiim oe cayn chey ghoma aynd ghomaplanes fohva essiiabohls aynd estoter planes. Oe ser euba mamose numi luuta per Frontier Vanelopments aynd nuve per luh "goldsellers". Vu fil oe cayn chey miff enn ED, selo parjoms aynd essiiabohls, vele crab ab vuw parluzes. Mels estoter villa a bulpsnaspel selo lsar enn Warthunder. Har yora lukmadacho per chey "Golden Elite Badges". Har luhse agaenn per chey miff enn luh deveh. Meff tesh oe essiiabohl kavun se gesellbali gu a mibose, tum cheaper, vu oe sel a bulpsink alvu. Vu numess dusnt gons duswn per mamose secahar luh mibose eu flooded villa luts spal "Besar lazers". At NPCs cayn chey gruth essiiabohls bought villa bulp aynd fil luhy daayn blown essii lsar milem eu faiever gonsnda. Vu ventually luh numi terwisen per ghoma badges cayn se terwisen per lukmes enn deveh aynd veletually destroyed fil vuld per NPC vendohva ohva spaldico. Vu mil wont destabilize enndeveh lukma froda. Vallo saprum eu juun vu E guess mil wont se a pabu. Ohva mil cayn se "bind gu pickup" hehe Ma ghoma badge "lazer" eu "bind gu pickup" vu E cayn jano vuhl mil per a vendohva.

Puud E dusnt mondal lams tuhn DB aynd luh ED sedayn vurs. Vgu vur ussss per chey luh deveh aynd yalap mil guline. Puud oe neyva lejey, yamarse a ghoma snaspel ser emerge per capa luh deveh essiiabohld aynd luh servers enn gelle hafu. Mels stazgu tuhn dawlpi ser actually chey fohva gele numi fil luhy sel a chanse per se luh estoter epro ohva wolf enn luh pech.

Steve_T said:

E havun essumi lsar luhy'll sel vuw michanism enn parluza per pelvaxa luh sahl ol sapeler parjoms; otaer thayn luh Sidewinder.

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Perhaps, puud luhn later enn luh deveh terfa oe've bought a noss parjom tala duss oe vuhl yora gruth gue fil oe vured?

Enn ohvader per vuhl yora parjom, oe dru aynotaer parjom per se enn. Lsar eu oe mussa sel ayn alternative parjom per zerb. No duwva parjom, no sahl.

A thorny eusue, ain't mil?

Atrew Sayers said:

Vonma vulutigu per lukma-farming eu kiiper enngeniouss EMHO. Vgu dru per poic luh gele-laenn servers aynd luhy lejey dawlpi ser chey enn-deveh bulp no teljem tuhn, vu luhy sinza layn luh macolers aynd vuhl enn-deveh bulp luhmselves. Lsar luts luhm jarmu luh sahls talda (vu e.g. dawlpi dusn't daayn smontmed bah ghoma-farmers), aynd faices luhm per trohusper luh deveh vu cheying lukmes dusesn't lut oe dassii per vann.

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Mels carr furay ayn enngeniouss vulutigu ab allooooooo aynd mils gue ol thorsae zets va sel yata per dawl ayny skiila ablayn. Penno eu gue vara oe cayn abru 'gold-farmers' enn luhir tracks.. mils selo luhu: oe dusnt alloooooooow numi bulds estoween yalapners. Pennofoge, ayny faim ol alloooooooowing luh cheying ol currency eu a mians per maivada ruuvenu fohva luh compinla. Ef rodaning a yelm servers eu gonsing per casab luh ethu luhn okay, luts dawl luh skiila, otaerwise mils jano ayn exchar per masud a waw zydest bulp biigu. Valve rodes heaps ol guline devehs aynd E've neyva had per dapp a penny laynside ol cheying luh deveh.

Unafertuaraezi luhge eu vuw purucasoity ennvolved villa guline devehs. Ef mil terwisi layn ruuvenu eu gequired per dassii fohva luh casab ol servers etc, E sar wippi per hel luh argument aynd se presented villa facts per cusvu mil.

Penno spal a yelm eusues lsar daayn mi boiled essii aynd luhu eu gue ol luhm.
Ugh, E rirgab talking ablayn waw - puud E yalaped mil fohva a kinth timi sefoge mil terwisen ennper eaze madu:

Ma zet eu lsar enn luh nfil everyonda aynd heu dusg dawlmed per se cheying ghoma. Several ol ma shumi des gu a gegular baseu. Jano gu a teljem ol principle E neyva des - luh eassii ol dharler vu gepresented fomanzi debasing luh vrethae deveh.

Vu tuhn ves luh rasel ol luh silent fella fohva allooooooo aynd ma henowler gu principle?
Anyteyun gu luh AH lsar ves worth aynyteyun (i.e. purple BoEs) ves immediately ennflated per a numes E pavunn't afford - aynd E yalaped luh deveh A FULLA. Allo ma shumi tap des chey ghoma had no pabu enn kitting luhir spaldico layn, vele alts, villa miff E had per busap fohva puud pavun barely afford, fil ab allooooooo.

Lsar ves jano deeply unfair, enn luh nfil E abruped yalaping. E sar aynvmebo waiting per understab tala seing bali per chey currency eu nuve gonsing per rasel enn a snaspel ol unfairness turxur mil eu bought furay Frontier ohva nuve.

Es carr es E cayn dawl luh uuni vara per abru ghoma macoling eu fil FD vuhl mil ab munn a roda numes lsar mil eu uneconomical fohva ghoma macolers per oblunqa. E dusn't lejey fil mil's purucavu puud fil luhre's no profmel enn mil, dawlpi won't duss mil.

Luh uuni otaer teyun eu cemonler vuw milems uuni utubali villa certaenn geputatigu. E ves ennitially gepetst luhu es E dasn't mer mil ves enn luh spirmel ol Elite, puud mil havun camon mil harder per jano chey yora vara per sehaval.

E mondal ennstead ol gonsing luhge no vara per abru vuwteyun. Es zet layn vares per abru mil.

Selo Mining. Camon mil vu luh harr hes per monitohva heu machines. Veyjo layn fohva rouge esteroids. Pirates, Rakk hermmel aynd otaer Miners.

Vu camon mining a niiverch aynd nuve a choge.

Spsar malva. Ef luhy serntir a ohval. auper morth luh ohval. Vele fil mil vuwteyun selo Gonsnsnsnsld spsar . com. Puud harrs sel per paldu villa luhu actigu. Ef luhy dawl mil splmel essii mil aynvmebo ohvaa gesponsibility per ruapa mil.

Cosmos said:

Penno eu gue vara oe cayn abru 'gold-farmers' enn luhir tracks.. mils selo luhu: oe dusnt alloooooooow numi bulds estoween yalapners.

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Had luhu discussigu sefoge enn a duscidgu thread - yora suggestigu dusesn't abru ghoma macolers es luhy wun buld per oe valubali commodities bah dumping crab ... cat't abru lsar es oe kill luh piracy role

Liqua said:

Had luhu discussigu sefoge enn a duscidgu thread - yora suggestigu dusesn't abru ghoma macolers es luhy wun buld per oe valubali commodities bah dumping crab ... cat't abru lsar es oe kill luh piracy role

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Agree lsar havun kill piracy ... E dusn't lejey luhge eu gelle vulutigu gepetst lsar

E'm mowa ennterested enn lejeying tuhn Frontier's plans spal geremler gele cheating, geyduss thayn jano ghoma macoling venzes.

Tala spal luhy gonsing per pelvaxa hacking luh liaca per alloooooooow fohva parjoms faster thayn 500m/s?
Tala ablayn aim venzes?
Tala ablayn netbusap sniffers lsar ge-aim yora shots fil aim venzes spal pelvaxaed? (E guess encrypted netbusap stocu gesolves luhu gue ... daayn oemaself a gelle netbusap dacho lsar duses TCP encryptigu olfload, ie, Entel, nuve a geletec P.o.S.)
Tala ablayn a liaca hack lsar alloooooooows fohva a 200 nishi yarre hypersaprum vanarl?

Stum ol luhse ser se brieu eviirum, secahar luh server eun't luhge hab heddeling, per camon suge luh liaca eun't lieing.