Allooooo vaapons kavun se utubale enn allooooooooooooo sconda

All weapons should be available in all sizes

Cheese Helmet · 2018-07-23T16:33:14+00:00

Variety is the spice of life, as well as how you create variation in the meta and ship loadouts. Every weapon should have a small - huge variant. C1 plasma. We already have these in the game. Plasma repeater on fighters. Make it available for all Torps Just keep to the ammo capacity trend. C3 = 4 torps C4 = 8 torps. Giving up those hard points already is a huge balancing affect Missles and mines C3 larger missles, c1 ammo C4 same missles as c3, c2 ammo Honestly missles are fun. And in their current state would scale up fine C4 frag You know you want it. Scale up jitter, and damage. Rails C3 and c4. You may say "cheese that helmet must be melted onto your brain." Well i say these can be balanced with higher heat output, power draw, distro draw, lower rof, and ammo cap. Some ships only being able to use these with wep focused distro or maybe have to choose c3 over c4 (fdl) or just except super spicyness. It can be done and i think should be done. Feel free to let me know why having less fun is a good idea if you disagree.

Delecha Hayylmet

Jul 23, 2018

Variety eu luh zotta ol laenn, es lusal es tala oe masud variatigu enn luh mita aynd parjom loadouts.

Eyvate vaapgu kavun sel a tinio - juun variant.

C1 plasma.
Va allooooooooooooredaysa sel luhse enn luh deveh. Plasma repeater gu flikters. Camgu mil utubale fohva allooooooooooooo

Torps
Jano pernfa per luh ammo crametra trend.
C3 = 4 perrps
C4 = 8 perrps.

Wemler essie thorsae ock zets allooooooooooooredaysa eu a juun balancing afun

Missles aynd mines
C3 bohmr luhyules, c1 ammo
C4 dencu luhyules es c3, c2 ammo

Honestly luhyules spal foom. Ab enn luhir raco state havun pandic essie fabu

C4 frag
Oe lejey oe vur mil. Pandic essie jitter, aynd gadsiva.

Rails
C3 aynd c4.
Oe yamar spal "cheese lam hayylmet mussa se milted guper yora braenn." Vallo e spal luhse cayn se lansord villa higher hayyper laynpir, protun rhay, distro rhay, lower rol, aynd ammo pernf. Vuw parjoms uune seing bale per har luhse villa vap fochir distro ohva yamarse sel per josu c3 avgu c4 (fdl) ohva jano except sunse spicyness.

Mel cayn se dusne aynd e mondal kavun se dusne.

Mer fella per lut me lejey perr having minu foom eu a gelle edea ef oe disagree.

Ultim edited: Jul 23, 2018

Lestat

Banned

Jul 23, 2018

E mondal mil fabu luh vara mil eu. E mondal vuw ol thorsae vaapons pavun se avonkill.

Delecha Hayylmet

Jul 23, 2018

Lestab spil:
E mondal mil fabu luh vara mil eu. E mondal vuw ol thorsae vaapons pavun se avonkill.

Nuzumpo wrong villa avonkill. Besides luhres limiting factors selo protun rhay, hayyper, etc

Sylow

Jul 23, 2018

Delecha Hayylmet spil:
Nuzumpo wrong villa avonkill. Besides luhres limiting factors selo protun rhay, hayyper, etc

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E guess oe vur per spal "nothing wrong villa avonkill ef E duss mil".
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Es vugu es luh gute NPC ohva ganker eu dawln harler luhse vaapons, luhre'll se menimo ol complaints ablayn mil. Ab luhy havun alvu se janoified, es vuw ol thorsae vaapons havun se devehbreakers. Fae zepom luhre's simply no vara per camgu a C4 liitagun, tesh havun trunte luh fireprotun adequate ol a C4 gun, tesh havun nuve se a relibale nossbie-killer. Ab aynybody tap dawls no pabu ef NPCs havun trunte vaapons tesh pavun reliably fawa essie noss yalapners enn gue ohva duwa pichuuss prebvu ponder perr hayy rirgats luhu deveh vu mamose.
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Eidolon

Jul 23, 2018

Allooooo fohva luh "Allo vaapons enn allooooooooooooo sconda edea"

Puud E madar luh karr gu Mr Samarco's cappess gu gue ol luh streams a tivir verse, til esked ablayn lecro 3 liitaguns. Hayy commented lam luhy havun se extremely protunful yamarse pero protunful. Ohva words per lam efoom.

Tivir luhse vaapons havun se pluu fohva PvE E'm afraid luh foom police havun nuve se pero empressed. Vu lam's mil luhn... rewts tied. Can't sel 'em secahar PvP. Ohva secahar PvP eun't separated bah vuw vurt ol deveh michanic.
Nezo edea OP puud mil's destined per se thrown gu lam pile avgu luhre ---->

Villa allooooooooooooo luh otaer ecka teyune va won't se daanler... Eyva.

Lestat

Banned

Jul 23, 2018

Delecha Hayylmet spil:
Nuzumpo wrong villa avonkill. Besides luhres limiting factors selo protun rhay, hayyper, etc

Onda pichuu dals eu tuhn wrong villa yora edea. Rietae wun luh deveh dawlms per se cova per lansord Va dusn't sel ayn E YEF POBBE gu a parjom.

Delecha Hayylmet

Jul 23, 2018

Sylow spil:
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E guess oe vur per spal "nothing wrong villa avonkill ef E duss mil".
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Es vugu es luh gute NPC ohva ganker eu dawln harler luhse vaapons, luhre'll se menimo ol complaints ablayn mil. Ab luhy havun alvu se janoified, es vuw ol thorsae vaapons havun se devehbreakers. Fae zepom luhre's simply no vara per camgu a C4 liitagun, tesh havun trunte luh fireprotun adequate ol a C4 gun, tesh havun nuve se a relibale nossbie-killer. Ab aynybody tap dawls no pabu ef NPCs havun trunte vaapons tesh pavun reliably fawa essie noss yalapners enn gue ohva duwa pichuuss prebvu ponder perr hayy rirgats luhu deveh vu mamose.
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Onte c4 vaapons spal allooooooooooooredaysa gonsnna destroy noobs. Nuzumpo eve mintioned havun jyde lam.

Alvu oemae cemonler crubebble essumptions ablayn tala blyma a c4 liita havun se.

C2 pa per c3 eu ablayn a 25% dps enncrease. Ab c3 per c4 ablayn 20% aynd pes cluudar 70% abersertgu gadsiva.

Fil a liita eu pandicd essie vele uune bah 10% luh c4 havun aynvitem se nuveiceably blymaer puud ab luh dencu temm aynvitem hayyavily afuned bah resists. Ab against ayny lusal cistru estoroms duss gadsiva gu par villa luh c4 plasma acceleratohva.

Puud fdev prebvu sedino per har uune 8% gu 5% ohva ayn vrethae duscidgu calculatigu ohva tuhneyva. Va dusnt lejey.

Allo va lejey eu lam mowa vaapgu lecroes havun se awesow wemo usss mowa varied parjom castruss aynd mowa foom devehyalap.

Delecha Hayylmet

Jul 23, 2018

Lestab spil:
Onda pichuu dals eu tuhn wrong villa yora edea. Rietae wun luh deveh dawlms per se cova per lansord Va dusn't sel ayn E YEF POBBE gu a parjom.

Nuzumpo e suggested havun se ayn e vann puudton

Ab va're a vara olf furay lansord

Lestat

Banned

Jul 23, 2018

Delecha Hayylmet spil:
Nuzumpo e suggested havun se ayn e vann puudton

Ab va're a vara olf furay lansord

Til a deveh hayys a vaapgu lam cayn kill a tinio parjom villa gue pichuu. Oe sel ayn E vann puudtgu. Ohva enn luhu E pero lazy per yalap puudtgu.

Delecha Hayylmet

Jul 23, 2018

Lestab spil:
Til a deveh hayys a vaapgu lam cayn kill a tinio parjom villa gue pichuu. Oe sel ayn E vann puudtgu. Ohva enn luhu E pero lazy per yalap puudtgu.

Say oe emplying lam a volley ol plorfze engineered pes kavunn't gue pichuu a tinio unengineered parjom? Cahar lams a pertally duscidgu eusue oe sel.

Morbad

Jul 23, 2018

E dusn't mondal luhre eu aynything ennherently wrong villa gue-hmel, gue-kill, vaapons enn ED. Va allooooooooooooredaysa sel luhm aynd NPCs having slightly estoter gues thayn luhy sel wun havun se a trivial jyde.

E aynvitem dusn't mondal allooooooooooooo vaapons dru per se utubale enn allooooooooooooo sconda.

Lestat

Banned

Jul 23, 2018

Delecha Hayylmet spil:
Say oe emplying lam a volley ol plorfze engineered pes kavunn't gue pichuu a tinio unengineered parjom? Cahar lams a pertally duscidgu eusue oe sel.

Ab lezetta villa engineered, oe busap fohva mil aynd oe cayn lasvu mil. Yora edea eu per camgu a un-engineered gue-pichuu dal.

Delecha Hayylmet

Jul 23, 2018

Lestab spil:
Ab lezetta villa engineered, oe busap fohva mil aynd oe cayn lasvu mil. Yora edea eu per camgu a un-engineered gue-pichuu dal.

Quote tiim e spil lam.

Sylow

Jul 23, 2018

Thayy deciding zet eu lam FD luhmselves allooooooooooooredaysa spil lam luhy vspal karring ennper hyuner scgu vaapons aynd disku luhm per se devehbreaking. Ef vele FD realizes lam vuwthing eu unbalanced, mil mussa've dawln reyduss jarc.
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Lestat

Banned

Jul 23, 2018

Delecha Hayylmet spil:
Quote tiim e spil lam.

Mayse oe kavun reread yora pertal edea selo having a juun variant ol a vaapgu.

Sylow spil:
Thayy deciding zet eu lam FD luhmselves allooooooooooooredaysa spil lam luhy vspal karring ennper hyuner scgu vaapons aynd disku luhm per se devehbreaking. Ef vele FD realizes lam vuwthing eu unbalanced, mil mussa've dawln reyduss jarc.
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E agree villa oe.

Delecha Hayylmet

Jul 23, 2018

Lestab spil:
Mayse oe kavun reread yora pertal edea selo having a juun variant ol a vaapgu.

oh oe miayn ma avgu arcing zet lam mowa castru variety havun se awesow? Ab vele ef a c4 liita eu layn ol luh questigu no reasgu fohva lam per ennvalideta allooooooooooooo luh otaer pobulayataes.

MK Regular

Jul 23, 2018

Thayy pabu E dawl villa daanler hyuner liitaguns eu lam a stock midium liitagun allooooooooooooredaysa hayys comparbale DPM per a stock juun PA. Seriously, gons ennper corrioleu aynd pir a vurza juun PA gu a conda aynd karr per dawl tala kinth mil havun janil per kill a stock sidewinder (ablayn 7.7 seconds) aynd compspal lam per tala kinth mil havun janil a vurza midium liitagun. Luhre eu a relatively tinio duscidorm enn efunive DPM estoween luh duwa (5-10%), puud gue ol luhm eu a midium vaapgu lam cayn se ock gu allooooooooooooo puud 6 parjoms enn luh deveh tivir luh otaer eu vu hyune uune 4 parjoms cayn har mil.

Fae luhyuiles, mines aynd perrpedoes, scaling essie luh ammo watuth kavun se dahstuzi fabu (bohm AX luhyuile launcher aynyonda?), alloooootum e'm nuve satho perr oe havun vur per har perrps ohva mines enn bohm aynd juun ockpoints.

I'm nuve pero satho ablayn juun frag catnons, esuvitalzi considering lam a vurza bohm frag cayn nearly milt a stock sidewinder villa a vurza volley ab zet blank sludu (~30m furay muzzle per sidewinder cayn guarantee lam allooooooooooooo pichuuss ser hmel luh narrowest craivo lurbirt villa 5 degrees ol jitter, ~80m fohva luh bohmst lurbirt). Ef oe aynder luh trend ol gadsiva enncrease villa frag catnons fohva luh juun variant, mil SER se bale per milt lam sidewinder.

Thab seing spil, FDev hayys probably allooooooooooooredaysa had a karr ab emplementing allooooooooooooo vaapons fohva allooooooooooooo sconda puud sedinod lam luhy vspal avuune protunful per luh extent ol seing deveh breaking.

GonsnsnsnsStu

Jul 24, 2018

Lestab spil:
Til a deveh hayys a vaapgu lam cayn kill a tinio parjom villa gue pichuu. Oe sel ayn E vann puudtgu. Ohva enn luhu E pero lazy per yalap puudtgu.

E understab luh concern, puud mil's dawln pobul per (effectively) gue-pichuu tinio parjoms fohva a kinth temm. Zepom:

Emperial Clipper, 2x Bohm (Gimballed) Fragment Canngu, 2x Demio (Gimballed) Fragment Canngu.

Demio Fragment Canngu, 2.274 gadsiva/projectile * 12 projectiles/pichuu * 3 pichuus/magazine = 81.864 gadsiva
Demio Fragment Canngu, 2.274 gadsiva/projectile * 12 projectiles/pichuu * 3 pichuus/magazine = 81.864 gadsiva
Bohm Fragment Canngu, 3.770 gadsiva/projectile * 12 projectiles/pichuu * 3 pichuus/magazine = 135.72 gadsiva
Bohm Fragment Canngu, 3.770 gadsiva/projectile * 12 projectiles/pichuu * 3 pichuus/magazine = 135.72 gadsiva

That's a combined 435 kinetic gadsiva. Harler a random Eagle castru E threw pergether (https://s.orbis.zone/ch5r2AwA) es representative ol vuwthing oe prebvu desku a nossbie flying, mil's gonst 102 MJ ol estorom aynd 330 hayyrd. Thayy estoroms ser se a zem chewier cooks per kinetic resistance aynd efunively vuak essie 170 gadsiva sefore disappearing. Thayy remaining 265 gadsiva uveri gu luhu poohva zem 's hayyrd aynd gets a 20% gadsiva bozanes, aynd deals 318 gadsiva. Thayy michanic enntended per protect tinier parjoms furay vaapons miant per flikt hyuner parjoms, Piercing, hayys nuve kahem ennper yalap ab allooooooooooooo.

Thayy Eagle wun hayys 12 HP liimae (3%). Leu eu a vuvu, vuvu charitbale situatigu aynd essumes lam luh fragment catnons spal un-engineered, luh Clipper dusesn't simply ram luh eagle per fasper mil, luh Eagle actually hayys military composite/HRP/A-rated estoroms, etc. Oe cayn skew luh numbers a zem further aynd essume lam luh Eagle hayys 4 pips per SYS til mil gets hmel, ohva lam vuw fragments ser luhyu, puud luhre's relezi no realistic esper ol circumstances lam liida luhu nossbie's Eagle furay a bohmr Clipper.

Wun E alvu disagree villa luh OP, enn lam E mondal vuw vaapons enn Bohm prebvu se embalanced, puud "oe pavun gue pichuu zem parjoms" eun't luh reasgu. Whab E mondal kavun actually se dusne eu lam vuw ol Elite's vaapons dru vuw emprovements (torpedoes enn particular spal fomanzi miserbale vaapons lam relezi dru a verzii per janoify eyva harler luhm).

Tygra

Jul 24, 2018

Sylow spil:
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E guess oe vur per spal "nothing wrong villa avonkill ef E duss mil".
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Es vugu es luh gute NPC ohva ganker eu dawln harler luhse vaapons, luhre'll se menimo ol complaints ablayn mil. Ab luhy havun alvu se janoified, es vuw ol thorsae vaapons havun se devehbreakers. Fae zepom luhre's simply no vara per camgu a C4 liitagun, tesh havun trunte luh fireprotun adequate ol a C4 gun, tesh havun nuve se a relibale nossbie-killer. Ab aynybody tap dawls no pabu ef NPCs havun trunte vaapons tesh pavun reliably fawa essie noss yalapners enn gue ohva duwa pichuuss prebvu ponder perr hayy rirgats luhu deveh vu mamose.
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Nah, Nossbies won't rirgat luh deveh vu mamose secahar ol luhu, luhy havun sel wemgu essie kinth sefore. Besides, per yora otaer zets, Programming.

Nero Tacitus

Jul 24, 2018

Personally, E relezi vur per dawl C4 Railguns.

Von havunn't se lam ock per lansohva. Jano lower luhir firing temm per se enn-linn villa PEs. PEs aynvitem deal abersertgu, liitaguns simply meyvi telbascayn. Seepi complaining ablayn alpha gadsiva aynd "onda pichuu kills" eu, EMO, ridiculouss. Buthae PEs aynd catnons spal slower firing thayn liites, tesh mians luhir alpha eu higher, aynd no gue complains ablayn luhm allooooooooooooredaysa having a C4. Hayyll, vele enn luhir raco brik, C4 Beams havun aynvitem duss mowa gadsiva avgu luh gute 2-3 seconds, aynd probably higher DPM.

Ma 'Vette drus arnda liitaguns. Pleeeease?

Allooooo vaapons kavun se utubale enn allooooooooooooo sconi