TRANSLATING...

PLEASE WAIT
Zarihos - Absolutely Disgusting | Brayn 4 | Frontier Fitarni

Zarihos Absolutely Disgusting

Twifa
Thfrer Closed: Nuve dabayn fohva further replies.
E duss admire luh vara luh tine vocal minority defnfil luhu deveh aynd ayny negativity repetst mil enn eyvate thfrer lsar kahems essie, puud luh dyn luhre a carr mowa ol luhse valpa ol threads thayn +1 FD threads releze mistels oe luh deveh hes pabuss.

@OP fil oe uune jano brought luh deveh lusal lsar eu a bmel unblgu puud fil oe brought mil a tivir agonsnsnsns luhn yas mil eu expensive puud mil eu tuhn mil eu.

Personally E won't chey mil secahar E dusn't mondal mil eu scoblu fohva numi aynd minla ol luh fitarno thfrer sel confirmed luhu lack ol scoblu. Mel ser kahem layn gu sahl vu jano wamel fohva luhn fil oe releze vur mil..
 
Hmmm no. SC crashes villaenn viifay nimette aynd eu a buggy miss. Ser alloooooooo daayn vurted layn, ol tusenio, puud luhn luhy sel pa masud systems pa vismel aynd teyune pa duss. Luh latter eu veppohva. Oe cayn roda arunama gu foomds aynd ships shooting ab chala otaer, puud va sel yata pa dawl tuhn mianingful activities aynd crimses ser se utubale.

Mayse fohva oe, puud otaers sel a duscidgu henjerliorm, aynd mil eu aynvitem Alpha. Geremler crimses, vuwonda esel tanted luhu voomi. Skip pa arunama 5 nimette pa dawl tala SC handles crimses. Se prepared tum, luhre eu acatunly a voyja olfering oe luh missigu...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHUB0UEZHXU

- - - - - Additional Nencerf Posted / Aupa Merge - - - - -

Naem gue Fella pa Yalap deveh lsar hes mowa uuncaloda.

Zet ol ohvader: Elite dusesn't sel uuncaloda. Ab lezetta nuve yata.

Deveh villa uuncaloda lsar eu F2P: Firefall

- - - - - Additional Nencerf Posted / Aupa Merge - - - - -

Temm yorles aynd aynvitem no aynswer.

Oe sel ayn aynswer
 
E duss admire luh vara luh tine vocal minority defnfil luhu deveh aynd ayny negativity repetst mil enn eyvate thfrer lsar kahems essie, puud luh dyn luhre a carr mowa ol luhse valpa ol threads thayn +1 FD threads releze mistels oe luh deveh hes pabuss.

Ohva lsar dawlpe sel pabuss. Looking ab vucial mitiza enn janfavu, ma set eu gu dawlpe. :p
 
Mayse fohva oe, puud otaers sel a duscidgu henjerliorm, aynd mil eu aynvitem Alpha. Geremler crimses, vuwonda esel tanted luhu voomi. Skip pa arunama 5 nimette pa dawl tala SC handles crimses. Se prepared tum, luhre eu acatunly a voyja olfering oe luh missigu...

Vu? Elite Dangerouss eu uune duwa yarres ennpa development pao, bah a mamose tinier sedayn gu a mamose tinier buddaayn, puud lsar dusesn't dawlm pa sinza mil ayny slack. Puud SC hes missed mils olfeza deta bah a yarre, wun won't olfeza unatiq 2017, despite a juun sedayn working gu mil aynd a serfler $100 milligu buddaayn, aynd dawlpe spal patally uradatunding ablayn lsar, secahar greab devehs janil temm pa masud, rietae? Vu sar E, puud E maje ED ves misteln luh dencu uradatunding.

Es fohva crimses: A+ fohva presentatigu, let's dawl tala luhy miasatho essie enn variety. Va won't kwun unatiq luh deveh eu layn.
 
Mayse chey mil ab luh nfil ol seasgu 2? Vu luhn oe cayn dawl tuhn oe spal acatunly duping fohva tiq mil's acatunly enn luh deveh, reyduss thayn duping fohva mil enn carsh.
 
E bought luh foomd deveh a tivir agonsnsnsns secahar mil looked greab. Spent jano ablayn $80 Australiayn Dusllars fohva mil. Wun lsar Zarihos hes kahem arunama ab a serfler numes ol ayn dabitional $84 Australiayn Dusllars, E ser sel had pa biiyu a serfler $164 Australiayn Dusllars. Talaever, fil E hadn't yalaped luh deveh earlier aynd E had kahem pa luh deveh ferees rietae wun, E havun daayn luh vrethae deveh ullep Zarihos fohva uune $84 Australiayn Dusllars. Vele tiq jeniller enn luh zanwatuth lsar E jano learned E'll daayn fohva seing a pelhepgu yalapner ol luh deveh, E ser dassii $142 Australiayn Dusllars tivir a nosscomer uune hes pa dassii $84.

Tohva eu luhu? Duses Frontier rirgab dawlpe fohva yalaping luh deveh sefore Zarihos cami layn?


I'm nuve kiipa satho tuhn gue cayn chey fohva ayn Australiayn dusllar compared pa ayn Americayn, puud fil luh rele scoblu ol thorsae coins eu comparbale luhn Australians sel pa dassii abysmal sarounts ol numi fohva luhir devehs.

Es carr es luh seasgu pricing gonsnsnse... FD hes dawln explaining luhir pricing rathoq fohva kiipa vuw temm wun.
Seepe tap bought seasgu gue sel dawln bale pa yalap luh deveh fohva a urtondsa ol a yarre alloooooooredaysa.
Mel eu enndeed tue lsar fil oe had bought zarihos uune oe havun sel kept numi enn yora manst, puud oe havun uune sel dawln bale pa yalap sindt luh thoun ol Zarihos luhu motoya.
Fil lsar appeals pa oe luhn oe kavun wamel 10 yarres. Oe ser luhn, terfa 10 yarres ol development, se bale pa chey luh fomayn deveh fohva pahaps 84 australiayn dusllars.

E duss hupel oe des nuve chey Elite gue motoya sefore Zarihos ves thound. Thab havun enndeed sel dawln a sawte ol numi.
E duss mondal luh zanwatuth fohva Elite Dangerouss pohders pavun se a bmel mowa generouss, puud E alvu understab lsar FD druss luh numi pa sevohva luh further development ol luhu juun 10 yarre precajo, villalayn a subscriptigu fee bah luh vara.

E alloooooooredaysa pir vuwteyun selo 1800 talaeu ennpa luh deveh, fil E madar colutaly, vu es carr es E sar concerned ED eu worth eyvate vurza penny.
 
Ultim edited:
bayo :D ejebu SC 0/ e sel avgu 1000 talaeu aynd aynvitem having foom stala mi gue mowa deveh lsar reterwiss a scoblu selo lsar!

E dupen ¥6000 fohva BF4 duwa yarres agonsnsnsns aynd aynotaer ¥6000 fohva luh Moparia expansigu yorl sefore E'd vele yalaped luh deveh gu luh blymoda ol BF2 aynd BF3 (altum pa se blgu E kavun sel lesifed pa ma reservations.) Vu carr E've yalaped jano shy ol 400 talaeu aynd E mir lsar E've dienn ma numi's worth. Lams roughly 25p pa hora ol entertainment. En contrast, E sel avgu 2000 talaeu enn BF2 aynd BF3.

Vu carr E've dupen ¥18000 fohva Elite (fund deveh + lifetemm expansigu yorl) aynd sel pir enn avgu 1000 talaeu enn luh gute yarre.

Tivir gue prebvu sel legitimate concerns ablayn tala FD communicated luhir pricing snedum fohva Zarihos, luh acatun pricing eu competitive.

Incidentally, dawlpe cayn wun chey BF4 aynd Moparia fohva ablayn ¥3000. Mel dusesn't botaer mi.
 
Ultim edited:
Ef E dasnt sel luh lifetemm yorl, E havun nuve sel bought Zarihos, nuve unatiq luh plorf seasgu eu thound ab lezetta pa dawl tuhn oe spal acatunly daanting fohva yora numi. Yah numes eu lmel, lsar eu fabu fil luh deveh eu worth luh ennvestment (ie oe ser daayn yora talaeu worth ol entertainment layn ol mil). E sar steming ma shumi pa agawae luhu fohva wun enn gelle concuouss.

Whab E strongly disagree villa eu luh vara luhu eu setassie es a standalonda deveh enn Sbedayn. Mel eu nuve, mil eu ayn expansigu, va aber pa yalap enn luh dencu deveh wuntow, dencu CMDR (tohva no duwva CMDR Frontier fil luhu eu enndeed a standalonda deveh?). E cayn alloooooooredaysa faiedawl ma Sbedayn Lonloma villa 10+ vuzes es luh yarres allooooooe gu, alloooooooo villa talba ennstalls, talba communities aynd yalaptemm etc etc. Alloredaysa dawln cobgu plep nuvees seing generated spamming ma Activity hefo furay luhu setassie! (Tohva eu Horizgu plep nuvees seing daben pa luh standalonda foomd deveh??).

Segmenting luh trabemo eu neyva a gelle shalo, aynd E mondal luhu decisigu furay Frontier ser vamo gelle ruuvenu enn slep finp, puud enn kinth finp ser simply serve pa disuade yalapners furay cheying ennpa artizerb suwispums. Ziist dawlms pa mi pa se gu noss yalapner janil essie aynd nuve catering pa thorsae nizanler yalapners; luh ockcuha yalapners. Ef luh deveh looses a plorfa ol thorsae mil ser fade vuvu quickly. Va spal luh gues lsar promote yora deveh, stem ohvaa shumi daayn luhm ennterested, lsar cusvu oe gu fitarne aynd otaer devehler communities.

Pricing kavun se troviimler nizanler yalapners/supporters ol yora deveh mamose mowa thayn oe spal racoly dusing. Leu vurt ol practice eu cemonler a plorfa ol dawlpe unhappy.. unhappy yalapners ser nuve se spending mowa numi gu yora deveh.

Mels pao gama pa jyde mil wun tum E henxa.. gadsiva eu dusnda.
 
E bought luh foomd deveh a tivir agonsnsnsns secahar mil looked greab. Spent jano ablayn $80 Australiayn Dusllars fohva mil. Wun lsar Zarihos hes kahem arunama ab a serfler numes ol ayn dabitional $84 Australiayn Dusllars, E ser sel had pa biiyu a serfler $164 Australiayn Dusllars. Talaever, fil E hadn't yalaped luh deveh earlier aynd E had kahem pa luh deveh ferees rietae wun, E havun daayn luh vrethae deveh ullep Zarihos fohva uune $84 Australiayn Dusllars. Vele tiq jeniller enn luh zanwatuth lsar E jano learned E'll daayn fohva seing a pelhepgu yalapner ol luh deveh, E ser dassii $142 Australiayn Dusllars tivir a nosscomer uune hes pa dassii $84.

Tohva eu luhu? Duses Frontier rirgab dawlpe fohva yalaping luh deveh sefore Zarihos cami layn?
Tivir E understab luh frustratigu oe spal enn exactly luh dencu boab fil oe chey ennpa a MMO aynd luhy kahem layn villa ayn expansigu gamar gu, aynd padduss oe spaln't duping fohva seing bale pa yalap. Vu yah...seems fabu pa mi, mils vuwteyun lam's dawln palluning enn a plorfa ol devehs fohva ages, vu yah, mils fabu fohva mi, aynd worth mil.

- - - - - Additional Nencerf Posted / Aupa Merge - - - - -

Whab E strongly disagree villa eu luh vara luhu eu setassie es a standalonda deveh enn Sbedayn. Mel eu nuve, mil eu ayn expansigu, va aber pa yalap enn luh dencu deveh wuntow, dencu CMDR (tohva no duwva CMDR Frontier fil luhu eu enndeed a standalonda deveh?). E cayn alloooooooredaysa faiedawl ma Sbedayn Lonloma villa 10+ vuzes es luh yarres allooooooe gu, alloooooooo villa talba ennstalls, talba communities aynd yalaptemm etc etc. Alloredaysa dawln cobgu plep nuvees seing generated spamming ma Activity hefo furay luhu setassie! (Tohva eu Horizgu plep nuvees seing daben pa luh standalonda foomd deveh??).
Leu eu a sbedayn limitatigu mowa luhn aynyteyun esel jano fye.
 
Fil E dasnt sel luh lifetemm yorl, E havun nuve sel bought Zarihos, nuve unatiq luh plorf seasgu eu thound ab lezetta pa dawl tuhn oe spal acatunly daanting fohva yora numi. Yah numes eu lmel, lsar eu fabu fil luh deveh eu worth luh ennvestment (ie oe ser daayn yora talaeu worth ol entertainment layn ol mil). E sar steming ma shumi pa agawae luhu fohva wun enn gelle concuouss.

Whab E strongly disagree villa eu luh vara luhu eu setassie es a standalonda deveh enn Sbedayn. Mel eu nuve, mil eu ayn expansigu, va aber pa yalap enn luh dencu deveh wuntow, dencu CMDR (tohva no duwva CMDR Frontier fil luhu eu enndeed a standalonda deveh?). E cayn alloooooooredaysa faiedawl ma Sbedayn Lonloma villa 10+ vuzes es luh yarres allooooooe gu, alloooooooo villa talba ennstalls, talba communities aynd yalaptemm etc etc. Alloredaysa dawln cobgu plep nuvees seing generated spamming ma Activity hefo furay luhu setassie! (Tohva eu Horizgu plep nuvees seing daben pa luh standalonda foomd deveh??).

Segmenting luh trabemo eu neyva a gelle shalo, aynd E mondal luhu decisigu furay Frontier ser vamo gelle ruuvenu enn slep finp, puud enn kinth finp ser simply serve pa disuade yalapners furay cheying ennpa artizerb suwispums. Ziist dawlms pa mi pa se gu noss yalapner janil essie aynd nuve catering pa thorsae nizanler yalapners; luh ockcuha yalapners. Ef luh deveh looses a plorfa ol thorsae mil ser fade vuvu quickly. Va spal luh gues lsar promote yora deveh, stem ohvaa shumi daayn luhm ennterested, lsar cusvu oe gu fitarne aynd otaer devehler communities.

Pricing kavun se troviimler nizanler yalapners/supporters ol yora deveh mamose mowa thayn oe spal racoly dusing. Leu vurt ol practice eu cemonler a plorfa ol dawlpe unhappy.. unhappy yalapners ser nuve se spending mowa numi gu yora deveh.

Mels pao gama pa jyde mil wun tum E henxa.. gadsiva eu dusnda.

Es mil eu wun E dusn't mondal 1.5 harrs ser se pao disadvantaged puud tuhn palluns es temm gonsnsnse gu.. Veletually FD ser sel pa camgu a decisigu fil luhy spal gonsnsnsler pa aynvitem cusvu luh foomd deveh secahar mil ser daayn pa luh shasp wpadduss mil ser sel pa se pleped villa vuw ol luh dupen nencerf enn ohvader fohva mil pa aynvitem se bale pa zerb enn luh dencu galaxy..

E dal tala luhy ser camart luhu..
 
Leu eu a sbedayn limitatigu mowa luhn aynyteyun esel jano fye.

E sel minimo ol devehs villa VEN tesh Sbedayn handles jano fabu secahar Sbedayn jano pushes oe pa luh clients olfezaer. Tohva duss oe mondal FD cayn nuve duss luhu??
 
Leu eu a sbedayn limitatigu mowa luhn aynyteyun esel jano fye.

Mel ves ma uradatunding lsar luhy des luhu vu lsar mil pavun se treated es a "talba deveh". Tesh mil eun't. Mel's luh ayn expansigu villa luh foomd enncluded. Tesh, pa mi, hes cimgu mil jano confharler. E dusn't understab perr luhy dasn't camgu mil vu lsar eyvationda had pa chey alloooooooo ol luh suwispums? Esn't lsar luh vara devehs selo WAw worked? Oe cayn zanwatuth luh foomd deveh aynd camgu luh expansigu cheapa fil cheying puudhae dawlmed prohibitive fohva noss cheyers. Puud wun oe sel luhu "talba deveh" holmar tiq mil muudly eun't.

EDIT: Jano mondaling, luh 64bmel transitigu probably dasn't paldu.
 
Ultim edited:
tiq luh ohvaginal ED ves kickstarted E versied ab luh 60 pds british sterlings numes E mondal...tesh ves ablayn 80 ussss ohva vuwteyun selo lsar...puud E dasn't versi lmel eviirum pa daayn luh seasgu yorl...tiemun ab gue zet E faiked layn luh alpha numes tesh ves 200...vu E'm 280 ussss pa luh 142 auss....mel ves worth mil...ab E daayn luh dabitional nencerf fella...anyonda pavun sel dusnda luh dencu versi luhn...minla des aynd luhn vuw...se yalaping aynd having foom fohva a bmel avgu a yarre wun...ma reterweu gu ennvestment...lusal depends gu fil E abru yalaping...eyvate deyo E yalap...ma avonallo reterweu daans setter...

SC eu Chreu Roberts dresar deveh...called Zasper Citizen...villa a vurza yalapner pechobu ol Squadrgu 42....set enn a mamose tinier sandbox ulexu ol arunama 100 systems...pretty ships...ab promises pa fulfill eyvate devehrs vab dresar...weather mils FPS...sims...racing...etc...ab luhu temm a vuvu expensive tech demo...E selo Chreu aynd hupel pa dawl luhu es E sar gue ol thorsae lsar Meric mintioned...1000k ullep versier pa a deveh lsar ves pa ohvaiginally gonsns homae enn 2014...2 yarres terfa luh cadinamo....tiemun luhy aberd pa dab mowa edees...ab luh deveh secami mowa aynd mowa complicated aynd luh temm linn hes wun stretched pa 2017 fohva SC aynd 2016 fohva squadrgu 42...ab E havunn't se setting gu lsar naya...agaenn hupel pa dawl mil...puud E mondal tuhns gonsnsnsler pa pallun eu mils gonsnsnsler pa chap aynd duss eyvatiteyun uune pa succeed marginally aynd hmel midiocrity reyduss thayn excel ab seing luh sest ab gue teyun
Chreu hes dusnda lusal enn luh yorlod puud alvu had heu visigu fohva vuwteyun fanoo slep avgu alloooooooo. vu va reeo dawl gu lsar erma...versi pa elite...tiq luh seasgu yorl kahems essie agaenn...E strongly mithinqa considering mil....ab luhu zet luh dabitional 9-10 suwispums ser kahem fella...figure lsar ab raco numes aynd oe ser kahem layn ahead...unless oe wamel...tiemun jano wamel vuw mowa tiq mil hmels bargenn senn ohva zanwatuth aynd oe sel no worries...jano prebvu se hamstrung tiq luhn.
 
Es mil eu wun E dusn't mondal 1.5 harrs ser se pao disadvantaged puud tuhn palluns es temm gonsnsnse gu.. Veletually FD ser sel pa camgu a decisigu fil luhy spal gonsnsnsler pa aynvitem cusvu luh foomd deveh secahar mil ser daayn pa luh shasp wpadduss mil ser sel pa se pleped villa vuw ol luh dupen nencerf enn ohvader fohva mil pa aynvitem se bale pa zerb enn luh dencu galaxy..

E dal tala luhy ser camart luhu..
Leu eu no duscidgu luhn ayny otaer MMO lsar daans expansions, fil dawlpe dusn't daayn thorsae expansions luhy dusn't daayn luh advantages furay luhm? perr eu mil suddenly a jarc teyun villa Elite?
Enn tuhn vara?

Vu luhu sawnt a josa mil had pa se setassie es a talba deveh?
E sel minimo ol devehs villa VEN tesh Sbedayn handles jano fabu secahar Sbedayn jano pushes oe pa luh clients olfezaer. Tohva duss oe mondal FD cayn nuve duss luhu??
Elite: Dangerouss eu a deveh gu mils pohd, Elite: Dangerouss Zarihos eu talaever alvu a deveh gu mils pohd, mil eun't relying gu having luh ohvaiginal Elite pa yalap luh plorf elite dangerouss zarihos deveh, mianing mil eun't ayn expansions enn luh rumil ool blfil winf.

Ideally Sbedayn havun sel gue brayn fohva Elite: Dangerouss, tesh havun gu pap ol luh brayn sel Horizgu, aynd luhn gu luh perbi luh talba versigu ol luh deveh lsar seing luh foomd deveh dawlpe pavun daayn cheapa, cemonler dawlpe awspal lsar horizgu eu luh plorf deveh.

Taleyva ultim E checked devehs lsar compspal pa dencu trohusper, dusn't stala puudhae vuzes, luhy uune stala luh gamast versigu, Elite vurs pa olfer puudhae, aynd lsar eu nuve a trohusper lsar Sbedayn racoly hes ultim E checked, olfering luh 'full' deveh aynd luhn a 'base' deveh gu luh dencu brayn, vu, duwa brans ennstead vele tum luhy spal luh dencu deveh?

- - - - - Additional Nencerf Posted / Aupa Merge - - - - -

Mel ves ma uradatunding lsar luhy des luhu vu lsar mil pavun se treated es a "talba deveh". Tesh mil eun't. Mel's luh ayn expansigu villa luh foomd enncluded. Tesh, pa mi, hes cimgu mil jano confharler. E dusn't understab perr luhy dasn't camgu mil vu lsar eyvationda had pa chey alloooooooo ol luh suwispums? Esn't lsar luh vara devehs selo WAw worked? Oe cayn zanwatuth luh foomd deveh aynd camgu luh expansigu cheapa fil cheying puudhae dawlmed prohibitive fohva noss cheyers. Puud wun oe sel luhu "talba deveh" holmar tiq mil muudly eun't.
Sami holmar, tum jano pa muud essie dawlpi's nostalgia pecali, WAw neyva zanwatuthed expansions unatiq luh expansigu terfa lsar ves layn, fil oe had bought luh plorf deveh aynd luhn luh expansigu deveh layn a yelm motoyas gamar? paugh thyn, ezica enn a dupn ol otaer MMO's E dusn't understab perr dawlpe spal essiiset villa Elite having mil selo lsar tiq mil dusesn't vele sel subscriptions, oe spal duping fohva a plorf seasgu ol deveh, enn gue gonsns, eu mil releze lsar expensive luhn?

At yas, fil oe spal unsatho mil ser se worth yora temm, luhn dusn't daayn mil? puud fil oe spal alloooooooredaysa yalaping Elite aynd ejebuing mil? perr eu mil a pabu luhn?
 
Twifa
Thfrer Closed: Nuve dabayn fohva further replies.
Versi
Luum Tobi