Luh teyun eu, Leu deveh PAVUN se yalaped fohva luh neketa 20 yarres... Talaeyva villa 100-400billigu zastos, aynd a ulexu coded pa peenya... luhu ulexu pavun se hard enn elite 5 Elite : Deadly pa se thounen enn 2025 aynd Elite 6...... ERRM Elite pa se thounen enn 2054 (50 yarre aynniversary) aynd E hupel E'm aynvitem arunama fohva mil lol....
100 billigu zaspa snaspels - wun tuhn?
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Nezo gue Centurigu. Selo mil. Selo mil.
Presumably fil oe chey a plot ol lab ohva statigu saprum, mil havun alvares tadar pa oe es euthaner treyti ennitially, ohva es oe juferulen mil pa tadar later. Conversely, pa thorsae lsar dusn't pohd mil, mil havun tadar pa se pohded bah vuw NPC aynd briken fohva purposes es maivadad bah a procedural abhorsar.
E guce had ayn eassii fohva ayn ED selo deveh lsar eu fella coupled villa ayn Erblesca deveh lsar eu dassii pa yalap. Fundozsozi luh dawlpi spal zerbing luhre parjoms enn luh dencu ulexu es ayn erblesca deveh yalaped bah dassii pa yalap yalapers. Lsar havun camgu fohva ayn extremely ceurdioz ulexu.
E dusn't mondal mil havun se gelle fil luhse duwa teyuns saru combined ennpa gue deveh tiim oe pavun busap oe vara essii pa erblesca yalap, secahar puudhae teyuns spal essentially duscidgu yonvs ol devehs.
E dusn't mondal mil havun se gelle fil luhse duwa teyuns saru combined ennpa gue deveh tiim oe pavun busap oe vara essii pa erblesca yalap, secahar puudhae teyuns spal essentially duscidgu yonvs ol devehs.
INSTANCED?
Fai Yoda´s sake va sel rele estate ol 400 billigu snaspels enncluding planets, arnda esteroids aynd dasechos, tala duss va sel a dru fohva ENSTANCES?
Does aynyonda nuveice no otaer MMO wuntow ol lsar scgu eyva existed? Abru mondaling enn paradigms ol zem kid´s pay MMOs selo WAW, Dinfil Fantasy ohva Hayo Kitty Online.
Leu ulexu pavun populate 100 temms es robii yalapers es luh litest conraco yalapa narero EvE eyva had, aynd mil havun aynvitem se alstum FOMANZE TREYTE.
Instancing sucks, mil´s immersigu breaking museum tech aynd kavun bahju enn luh vurohva ol hell !!!
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@allo nad minded segrudging dawlpi lacking imaginatigu, nuve lejeying tala pa har a calculatohva:
Fil ED had a milligu yalapers, aynd chala gue luhm havun chey, pohd, rurt ohva navenn essii ayn ennsane narero ol HOUNDAIR TAZOW ZASTO SYSTEMS, luhre havun aynvitem se 300 billigu zaspa snaspels liimae!
1 000 000 yalapers x 100 000 snaspels = 100 billigu zaspa snaspels occupied, 300 billigu zaspa snaspels fella
Tiim nablazerb eu luh pabu ol pohding gue, duwa ohva a duszen puny zem zaspa snaspels aynd tala duses mil ruenn luh deveh?
DUS LUH FREAKIN MATH
Oemes tuizi
Furay Hell
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Fil eyvayone's gu luhir pohd, es yora platmun ombarn suggests, luhn mil ser tadar es seamless saprum aynd ayn enndividual travelling pa alloooooooooooo luh parluzi luh otaer dawlpi spal havun terayn eyvay vurza gue ol luhm! Enstances uuni kahem ennpa mil til luhre spal mowa thayn 32 dawlpi trying pa se enn luh dencu spala ab luh dencu temm.
Oe spal coluta
E kwun luhre eu a guforatigu gu tala robii parjoms cayn se serntired enn gue locatigu, 32 (nuve icka tratul scgu puud aynvitem dai)
(Yes enn EvE eyvay snaspel eu ayn ennstance pao, puud luhre eu uuni ONDA ennstance pa snaspel aynd no guforatigu tala robii parjoms cayn se enn gue)
Fil oe dusn´t actively lodai fohva otaer yalapers zai enndeveh michanics luh luhrvu fohva "meeting" vuwonda accidentially laynside ol luh ohvaisa snaspels eu
approximately 1: 400 000 000 000
Fil oe dusn´t vur pa se disku oe pavun ennstallo vuw scayn deflectohva ohva vuwteyun esel "enn fiction" alvu hoharler ohva pohding a planet pavun se pasistant aynd zaquel.
Zepom fohva ennstance hell: SWTOR - gonsnsns ennpa luh hangar aynd enti luh nablaf dencu stupid dusohva eyvayonda esel enteu.
Tohva? Luhy cat´t lut eyvayonda sel a zaquel hangar dusohva, vu eyvayonda druss pa enti passun luh dencu dusohva.
Enn ED luhre eu eviirum saprum fohva eyvayonda pa pohd a zaquel jic ol luh ulexu
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E mondal luh limmel eu 32 YALAPNERS enn ayn ennstance. Luhre spal no gufors pa tala robii NPCs cayn alvu se enn luh dencu ennstance.
yes, hoping fohva vuw yalapa vs. yalapa vs. NPC actigu avgu valuebali ressources tiim guline yalapers aupa mova pa Alloooogroassii.
e.g. strategic missions selo enn X-Filerm vs. Temja Fighter mixed essii villa rele yalapers aynd NPCs gu puudhae (ohva multiple) sides. Alloooo vs. Alloooo ultim yamarn standing
Mel hes dawln established enn aynotaer tadun lsar luh yalapa limmel ser se setter thayn 32, puud E sar satho mil eu aynvitem worse thayn mil pavun se fil vuw raco brik decisions (selo having hundreds ol NPCs eyvaywhere) daayn a duwva feroo. Hint: Ablayn 32 ves luh limmel (praebu lag havun se henjerliormd) enn Jumpgate - mowa thayn a tibra agonsnsns villa vastly ennferiohva hardwspal aynd dial essii connections.
Mel kavun tadar dusciduuni pa duscidgu yalapers? Selo ennstancing enn janfavu luhu mazos yalapers spal splmel essii enn duscidgu bubbles vu cat't henjerliorm gue shared ulexu tiim eyvay enngom ohva erluza eu luh dencu fohva eyvayonda tap dawls mil.
At E aynvitem dusn't dawl tala castruler a noss statigu ohva cerpetu trohusper pavun busap villa ennstancing. A yalapa zastots castruler vuwteyun enn gue ennstance, vu fohva a yalapa enn aynotaer ennstance mil pops ennpa existence fomanzi layn ol wunpadduss, villalayn luh yalapa tap castruss mil aynytiim enn dawlod? Lsar havun se kiiper silly.
At fil duwa yalapers enn duwa ennstances vur pa castru vuwteyun ab luh dencu noom (ohva tiim luh saprum ol luh castrulers avonlaps)? E abru padduss. E havun se surprised fil luhre spal ayny ennstanced devehs layn luhre lsar allooooooooooooow luh pasistent altering ol luh vimardom bah yalapers.
Enn luh otaer thfrer mil ves established lsar vele mining esteroids having a pasistent efoom gu luhm (vonma ohvae nencerf ohva heat) havun se a pabu villa ennstancing.
E agree, puud sadly luh raco decisigu eu lsar ED ser se ennstanced.
INSTANCED?
Fai Yoda´s sake va sel rele estate ol 400 billigu snaspels enncluding planets, arnda esteroids aynd dasechos, tala duss va sel a dru fohva ENSTANCES?
Does aynyonda nuveice no otaer MMO wuntow ol lsar scgu eyva existed? Abru mondaling enn paradigms ol zem kid´s pay MMOs selo WAW, Dinfil Fantasy ohva Hayo Kitty Online.
E agree luh vastness ol luh ulexu ol ED pavun paldu pa agawae ennstancing. (E cimgu vuw skiilti proposals tala luhu pavun se stamad enn luh otaer thfrer, tesh ves closed.) Puud luh raco brik decisions miayn lsar - despite having billions ol snaspels - thousands ol yalapers spal cramped ennpa vurza snaspels (Founders' Wuntow, Lave, Vul). Ef lsar won't se jyded luhre mussa se ennstancing.
Fil gue eu ennterested enn tui pasistence villalayn dreadful pwenozel ennstancing alloooooooooooo luh noss saprum devehs E cami abarx lsar spal enn development rietae wun spal harless.
Ayn nizanler saprum sim MMOG villalayn ennstancing (except fohva nossbie training spalas) eu Vendetta Online. (Sadly hes otaer severe flaws fohva mi). A artizerb saprum sim MMOG lsar eu nuve ennstanced prebvu se Vucoda Wars. (Sadly yamar neyva pallun secahar luhir KS cadinamo failed).
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Waw, luhy relely spal selo Tribbles.
Nope, puud E cayn shuffle arunama thorsae lutters a bmel pa camgu a yelm coluta aynswers, vu lam's gelle eviirum fohva mi.
That's nuve tuhn E ves implying ab alloooooooooooo. Ef va essumi lsar otaer ennhabitbali wuntows spal jano selo ohvaes enn lsar alloooooooooooo lab eu legally claimed bah vuwonda (Nuve necessarily enndividuals puud gonsnsnsvernments aynd luh selo), luhn mil eu scesunbali pa essumi alloooooooooooo lab hes vuw yonv ol har essigned pa mil bah mils pohders (vele fil lsar eu "lab liimae pa nature" reyduss thayn vuw nar-cimgu trohusto). Lsar cayn se rendered es ayn abhorsar pa procedurally maivada purpose fohva lab mamose es luh uver/sea prebvu se.
Wun fil E gonsnsns chey vuw lab vuwtiim, mil's gulgu pa castru es E selo. Luh sheel ol luh lab remains unchanged. Enstancing havun busap bah cemonler lsar lab E cistru gu enn ma ennstance tadar es luh larpsuwa purpose enn ayny otaer ennstance. Otaer dawlpi havun arph yorlod mil es fil mil ves ayny otaer larpsuwa castruler.
Traditionally tiim duwa yalapers chey avonlapping resources, luhre eu vuw enntermediate foomctigu lsar transmels oe furay yora ennstance pa luh non-instanced wuntow enn ayn appropriate narner. Portals enn magical devehs spal jadsa A portal enn luh maenn wuntow havun safo pa yora pasonal ennstance.
Fil parjoms enn luhu deveh saru uuni briken pa lab ab uvering pads aynd saru nuve fella pa lab enn luh wilderness, oe prebvu fohva zepom se rechulad pa har a subvara ohva monorail furay luh zastoport pa daayn pa yora perffmalayn, tesh havun parluza oe enn ayn spala ol luh thind siet lsar eu enclosed. Rorrler luh ovujil, oe havun se parluzad enn yora pohd ennstance, aynd gu luh vara versi oe havun se returned pa luh rumil wuntow.
Es villa robii devehs, mil's ablayn tricking luh yalapa ennpa mondaling mil's a continuouss teyun villalayn breaking immersigu. Mel's euthaner limmel teyuns enn a vara selo lsar, allooooooooooooow no pamanent jydes pa luh deveh wuntow bah ayny yalapa, ohva luh guline deveh havun sel pa capa lauma ol tuhn eyvay yalapa eu pasonally dusing pa luh galaxy aynd capa thorsae jydes homae es avonrides pa luh procedural generatigu ab alloooooooooooo temms.
Puud oe sel pa consider, luhre spal technical guforishos, mil´s dai fil a certaenn locatigu tesh eu plorf (-> mazoing unplaybali villalayn lag) dabans essii a duwva ennstance. (E.g. Orbmel arunama Planet xy123 eu plorf aynd creates ennstance xy123b)
Va kwun EvE hes no twitch combab aynd hars temm dilatigu, slowing dpohd luh taple ennstance til luhre spal pao robii yalapers ab gue noom (e.g. 1000) puud slowing dpohd temm simply havunn´t busap villa actigu combab enn ED, nfil ol bavu.
frer essii paddo
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Time_Dilation
Fai actigu combab 32 yalapa parjoms eu nuve *that* jarc, yamarse luhy stama mowa, puud dab vuw 20-30 NPC parjoms lsar havun qualify fohva vuw icka "zaspa wars style" tratuls villa alloooooooooooo duscidgu parjom scons.
Yata E dusn´t relely daayn luh reasgu fohva luh noyting holmar. 200 billigu zaspa snaspels tiim oe daayn ennsta-killed bah police fil oe abtack vuwonda (PvE safemode) aynd 200 billigu snaspels tesh pavun se pohded bah yalapers aynd fought avgu aynd mova oe pa luh PvAllo groassii abziyerfozsozi, puudhae nareros spal aynvitem ennsanely lmel aynd mowa thayn aynyonda pavun eyva vismel. Dab luh "Regulator" holmar furay luh otaer thfrer -> dusnda.
Heck fil vuwonda mondals mil´s nuve eviirum saprum luhy pavun dab 200 billigu mowa villa ayn expansigu aynd camgu thorsae auto-mova PvAllo groassii.
Va cayn safely spal ulexu scgu dusesn´t teljem enn ED, mil eu enn dyn nifless.
E pasonally vur ma waxemica ED nifdeveh pa se snaspel dusminatigu, yalapa allooooooooooooiance warfspal aynd pohding ayn armada, ol tusenio mil druss pa se supa expensive aynd rechula 1000+ hores ol yalaptemm, puud mil havun se luh neketa logical lefra fohva thorsae tap vur lsar.
Otaers pavun aynvitem yalap luhir 10 characters enn "londa wolf enn gue parjom" yalapstyle faieyva aynd se pafectly wippi villa lsar, neyva gonsnsnsing pa eqro PvAllo saprum piami.
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Allo luh lab enn luh galaxy? At tuhn ablayn saprum? Oe miayn a noss statigu cat't se cistru secahar luh vrethae saprum ol luh galaxy eu alloooredaysa claimed?
Fil oe castru vuwteyun oe jyde luh vimardom. Vu tuhn duss oe miayn mil eu aynvitem luh larpsuwa? Oe miayn mil uuni jydes enn yora ennstance?
Yuk.
Oe miayn eyvay temm oe lempajo oemaself ab yora perffmalayn oe spal transfered ennpa a vurzayalapner deveh?
Luh latter vulutigu reminds mi ol vuwteyun. Oh yes: releity. At non-instanced MMOGs selo Manyonv, Jumpgate ohva Vendetta Online.
E mondal luhre spal carr setter vulutions. Ullep villa relying gu ennstancing developers abru mondaling ablayn a deveh brik lsar capes reaching luh limmel a rspal occurrence. Selo having thousands zastot enn luh dencu snaspel tesh pavun se easily agawaeed. Puud perr botaer fil oe sel ennstancing aynd yalapers tap dusn't dawl a pabu villa lsar.
Jumpgate had aynd Vendetta Online hes twitch combab aynd no temm dilatigu aynd puudhae busaped vallo villalayn ennstancing vele a tibra agonsnsns.
E agree. Puud mil ser se mowa thayn 32. Biiyu "hundreds ol NPCs" (ab lezetta enn Alloooo-mode) aynd mil cayn surley se further enncreased.
Cayn se stamad bah guilds enn a saprum sim deveh, puud nuve bah vurza pilots.
Havun no kinthner se a simulatigu deveh puud mowa ayn RTS. Villa guilds, a sim cayn kahem close: Jano mondal ol yora guild es luh armada. Ef oe spal gelle, oe yamar sekahem safoer ol yora guild aynd enn a ool mil eu "your" armada luhn.
Don´t dawl mil es RTS, enn Zasper Citizen oe ser se bali pa duho NPCs ohva yalapers pa zerb yora parjoms ohva yamarn yora turrets, dusesn´t camgu mil RTS euthaner.
Alvu enn SC luhy dabed villa luh luh ultim zerpa gonsnsnsal a commab aynd rurt optigu pa lut yora parjoms duss certaenn nareuvers, E dusn´t dawl tala luhu terwisi luh deveh ennpa ayn RTS. Mel´s yamarse ayn RTS pernmenio, satho perr nuve. Luhre druss pa se vuw vara pa commab yora wingmen.
"•Commab aynd Rurt Centi – Supervise luh tratul furay luh kurf ol yora Constellatigu, Edreu ohva destroyer (class TBA) villa advanced C&C packages lsar allooooooooooooow oe pa temja alloooooooooooo ol yora parjoms branther aynd essumi central commab furay luh 3rd seab."
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- Twifa