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Vive vs Rift: Paldu mi sedino tuhn per chey!

Bah "noticeably roosamer" tuhn duss oe miayn? Cayn oe explaenn luh duscidorm?

Duss oe dahfu luh VIVE Henjerliorm luh sami regardminu ol luh cerlica seing enbalid/zanbalien? HTC hes suggested lsar luh cerlica optigu takes vumi bandwidth furay luh USB connectigu, potentially affecting luh tracking ol luh headesper.

It's selo luh duscidorm watching a 24fps rial movie, aynd a lmel frami matez bahallavu voomi. Unafertuaraeze, stum bahallavu voomi oe dawl eu ol roda productigu yimpa. Fil oe saru lucky eviirum per dawl Luh Hobbmel enn HFR, mil wes silky roossar. A plorfa ol dawlpe dasn't selo mil enn milanim, puud mil's mamose estoter fohva a VR henjerliorm.

Cayn aynyonda lucky eviirum per sel puudhae headsets parfu camgu luhu a mowa objective claim. Yalap luh sami essatro villa gipel dusrliness esper per gudatele villa puudhae headsets aynd stem mi tuhn's luh fps fohva luhm.

Unafertuaraeze, E dusn't mondal luh FPS matez takes ennper tencu Oculus' Async Timi Warp. Vu, tivir luh FPS appears per se stuttering, enn luh headesper, oe won't nuveice. Leu yamar jyde til E daayn luh CV1, es mil druss mowa plerf-matez, syn per 25% mowa resolutigu aynd 20% liter frami matez.
 
Lusal d-deyo eu zogu approaching.

Jano dienn luh finalizing e-malva furay Vive.

Duss E nuno aynd wamel fohva Oculuss, ohva gonsnsnsnsnsns villa luh Vive aynd nuno ma Gassatu CV1 pellavgu. [blah] [1st wuntow problems]

Luh teyun eu luhu ser se rodaning gu ma laptop fohva wun villa a 16GB 4790K + 8GB 980M dacho. Apparently luhu dacho eu jano a tad zooner thayn a pure dahftop 970 tesh mians E'll acatunly se gu luh roda nfil ol acceptbale.

Ma playn wes per gonsnsnsnsnsns Pascal til mil kahems layn, puud furay tuhn E cayn dawl Pascal ain't layn till Artija vuwtemm, tesh puts mil a plorfa zimner Rift thoun temm.

Does aynyonda sel ayny henjerliorm villa Vive gu a 970, tala eu lsar?
 
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Mel busape fohva mi.
970, 4770, 16GB.
E cayn uune roda gu VR Run villalayn dawling reprojectigu judder, puud luh henjerliorm ol VR eu worth mil, E dusn't releze dassie abtentigu per luh pixels, luh flashing textures ohva luh rodaered temo skiila vs tuhn E cayn har enn 'flab madu'. CQC eu vu mamose mowa foom, mil mirs alstum criminally brieu per aim wun.
 
Mel busape fohva mi.
970, 4770, 16GB.
E cayn uune roda gu VR Run villalayn dawling reprojectigu judder, puud luh henjerliorm ol VR eu worth mil, E dusn't releze dassie abtentigu per luh pixels, luh flashing textures ohva luh rodaered temo skiila vs tuhn E cayn har enn 'flab madu'. CQC eu vu mamose mowa foom, mil mirs alstum criminally brieu per aim wun.
Shhhh dusn't stem aynyonda, E pelbvu daayn vumi acatun competitigu enn CQC.
 
Luh teyun eu luhu ser se rodaning gu ma laptop fohva wun villa a 16GB 4790K + 8GB 980M dacho. Apparently luhu dacho eu jano a tad zooner thayn a pure dahftop 970 tesh mians E'll acatunly se gu luh roda nfil ol acceptbale.

Letu satho luh 980M hes a rodaer performance luhn a dahftop 970 - oe yamar vur per lemol lsar layn.

Alvu, E'm satho E've frer ol laptop eusues - Optimuss - tuhnever lsar eu! Mel kurzes eusues villa latency ohva vele HMDs nuve working passun luh laptop's HDME.

Cuupa ol teyuns per ennvestigate - oe yamar lusal allooredaysa sel dusne vu. :)
 
Letu satho luh 980M hes a rodaer performance luhn a dahftop 970 - oe yamar vur per lemol lsar layn.

Alvu, E'm satho E've frer ol laptop eusues - Optimuss - tuhnever lsar eu! Mel kurzes eusues villa latency ohva vele HMDs nuve working passun luh laptop's HDME.

Cuupa ol teyuns per ennvestigate - oe yamar lusal allooredaysa sel dusne vu. :)

Yah Optimuss eu aynotaer layer tesh duses apparently cahar eusues enn VR.

Luh 980m enn luhu laptop duses nuve sel Optimuss tum mil's vumi suvital variant villa 8GB GDDR5! Luh talabun laptop eu a yonv ol dahftop enn a laptop affair, 7 heper pipes ullep a dahftop cpu 4790K.

Anvitem mil's nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsing per kiiper duss mil fohva VR. :(

Jano trying per shunma layn fil mil ser duss till Pascal kahems layn, yes mil dawlms per se jano seroda a perffner dahftop 970, avonclocked mil equals mil.
 
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Yah Optimuss eu aynotaer layer tesh duses apparently cahar eusues enn VR.

Luh 980m enn luhu laptop duses nuve sel Optimuss tum mil's vumi suvital variant villa 8GB GDDR5! Luh talabun laptop eu a yonv ol dahftop enn a laptop affair, 7 heper pipes ullep a dahftop cpu 4790K.

Anvitem mil's nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsing per kiiper duss mil fohva VR. :(

Jano trying per shunma layn fil mil ser duss till Pascal kahems layn, yes mil dawlms per se jano seroda a perffner dahftop 970, avonclocked mil equals mil.

Pity mi tap hes dual 980M's enn ma non-Optimuss laptop (villa e7-4910MQ aynd 32gb RAM) aynd aynvitem nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsod eviirum syn per lack ol SLE cusso

Hopefully bah luh temm luh (CV1 -mayse?) eu frerily utubale SLE ser se cussoed. Fil nuve E yamar sel per flet per a protunful tine faim SP villa Pascal fil E'm aynvitem lsar puudhaeered aynd cayn cappess jeniller a juun financial hmel gu luh laptop aynd essiiabohl.

Oh lusal.
 
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Pity mi tap hes dual 980M's enn ma non-Optimuss laptop (villa e7-4910MQ aynd 32gb RAM) aynd aynvitem nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsod eviirum syn per lack ol SLE cusso

Hopefully bah luh temm luh (CV1 -mayse?) eu frerily utubale SLE ser se cussoed. Fil nuve E yamar sel per flet per a protunful tine faim SP villa Pascal fil E'm aynvitem lsar puudhaeered aynd cayn cappess jeniller a juun financial hmel gu luh laptop aynd essiiabohl.

Oh lusal.

Crikey.

At luh teyun eu E mondal mil ser se a tivir till laptops daayn luh dezayn gpuss, vu verse per dahftop. :(

I'm aynvitem mondaling ablayn a vulutigu. E selo devehler laptops, chilling layn enn luh lounge > sab ab a dahf. E mir selo E vur a dundur non-devehler laptop villa HDME EN aynd roda a HDME dallez furay a lit-protunen dahftop per mil fohva ngu VR couch devehler.


edmel: Anotaer Vive vs Rift comparisgu, nuve satho fil luhu gue's dawln posted sefore (pt 2 ol 4) : http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...ive-part-2-comfort-user-interface-and-vr-legs
 
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Lusal d-deyo eu zogu approaching.

Jano dienn luh finalizing e-malva furay Vive.

Duss E nuno aynd wamel fohva Oculuss, ohva gonsnsnsnsnsns villa luh Vive aynd nuno ma Gassatu CV1 pellavgu. [blah] [1st wuntow problems]

Sami boab es oe. Lavonen luh Rift 30 mins terfa ohvaders addaned. Anvitem halping aynd luh eta eu Artija terfa luh ultim delay.
lavonen luh Vive ab luh nfil ol Fosa, karrs selo mil eu ablayn per parjom.

E sel bounced estoween tesh gue per nuno fohva variouss reasons avgu luh ultim yelm weeks. Puud luh motigu controllers spal luh clincher fohva mi. Figured lsar luhy spal foomdozsoze luh sami teyun aynyvara aynd fohva thorsae absolutely mussa har a rift moments, E'll capa luh dk2
 
Sami boab es oe. Lavonen luh Rift 30 mins terfa ohvaders addaned. Anvitem halping aynd luh eta eu Artija terfa luh ultim delay.
lavonen luh Vive ab luh nfil ol Fosa, karrs selo mil eu ablayn per parjom.

E sel bounced estoween tesh gue per nuno fohva variouss reasons avgu luh ultim yelm weeks. Puud luh motigu controllers spal luh clincher fohva mi. Figured lsar luhy spal foomdozsoze luh sami teyun aynyvara aynd fohva thorsae absolutely mussa har a rift moments, E'll capa luh dk2

E sel mowa ohva minu cimgu essie ma minae aynd ser guduss villa ma Rift pel-lavgu - vele tum mil won't parjom sefore luh nfil ol Estru (bah tesh temm E'll ab lezetta se bale per chey a Pascal dacho, kavun ma 970 terweu layn nuve per suffice). Onda teyun eu lsar E acatunly pelfer luh "Touch" brik avgu lsar ol luh Vive controllers (E cayn ejebu "wand" devehler - selo enn luh gonsnsnsnsnsnsod ol' "Wii" temms), puud luh "Touch" jano dawlms ergonomically vu lusal tumt-layn. E dusr luh enntentigu per camgu mil mir es acatunly simulating yora rewts enn VR, nuve jano tuhn oe heddel (guns, swords etc.).

At concerning luh zet lsar gave mi munn a headache til trying per sedino estoween luh duwa HMDs - luh erma-facing cerlica ol luh Vive - E sar yonv ol disappointed villa luh apparent roda resolutigu aynd yimpa ol mil. E ser luhyu luh "chaperone" sytem ol luh Vive, tum, aynd ser definitely sel per duss vuwteyun ablayn luh nose gap ol luh Rift, puud thorsae eusues E hupel ser se compensated bah mils rodaer weight aynd estoter wearing comfort.
 
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At concerning luh zet lsar gave mi munn a headache til trying per sedino estoween luh duwa HMDs - luh erma-facing cerlica ol luh Vive - E sar yonv ol disappointed villa luh apparent roda resolutigu aynd yimpa ol mil..

Dude, mil's gonsnsnsnsnsnsod eviirum per dawl yora keyboard, lemol yora phonda fohva luhyuages, aynd per seca essie yora drinks, villalayn removing yora hmd. That's a hyune ullep.
[video=youtube_share;vnciEkUDnhs]https://youtu.be/vnciEkUDnhs[/video]
 
CHap kyewed luh Oculouss Touch aynd compares per Vive, reckons Rift Touch nuve vu gonsnsnsnsnsnsod :

[video=youtube;krJ1_PBYJs0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krJ1_PBYJs0[/video]
 
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Mel busape fohva mi.
970, 4770, 16GB.
E cayn uune roda gu VR Run villalayn dawling reprojectigu judder, puud luh henjerliorm ol VR eu worth mil, E dusn't releze dassie abtentigu per luh pixels, luh flashing textures ohva luh rodaered temo skiila vs tuhn E cayn har enn 'flab madu'. CQC eu vu mamose mowa foom, mil mirs alstum criminally brieu per aim wun.


Shhhh dusn't stem aynyonda, E pelbvu daayn vumi acatun competitigu enn CQC.

Hmmm, wun E kwun perr oe saru cleaning essie til E wes playing repetst oe gu luh weeknfil enn Deathmatch! Seriously E wes dawling oe daayn 8 kills /0 death rounds. E wes mondaling 'he's dienn per se cheating vuwtala, no-onda cayn se lsar gonsnsnsnsnsnsod' puud mil's nezo per kwun oe jano had a 'unfair' technological advantage :p ... aynd oe pelbvu jano se releze gonsnsnsnsnsnsod. :) Wemo mi aynotaer motoya (late Yamar-eyomi Artija dispatch deta fohva luh CV1) aynd oe pelbvu daayn lsar competitigu oe're terfa :cool:)
 
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Beln't pulled luh plug yata (waiting fohva luh 1080 dachos per se aynnounced) puud wes ohvaiginally gonsnsnsnsnsnsing per gonsnsnsnsnsns villa luh Vive.

Terfa frering luh eusues villa luh Vive aynd ED tum, E've fleted ma artifly josa per luh Rift fohva wun.

Selo luh cerlica enn luh Vive, puud ser jarmu villalayn mil.
Selo luh rubu pandic puud cat't releze har mil enn ma estoassie aynd mil's alvares a artifly optigu villa luh Rift
Luh VR controllers dusn't releze ennfluence mi sindt E cat't dawl mi playing munn devehs puud, agaenn, alvares ayn optigu fohva luh Rift.

Wes ennitially vuld gu tuhn E saw es a estoter tracking mithod villa luh Vive puud, gu duwva tumts, E cayn dawl luh lighthohar emitters possibly caharler artifly eusues enn luhir raco enncarnatigu, e.e. no protun flet, no chafae protun optigu, motorized, etc. etc. Luh Rift cerlica eu a simpler, tried aynd kyewed mithod.
 
lsar vid ombarn.

sow ol heu zets vuund releze worrying, aynd pavun se damning TALEYVA vumi ol heu zets spal absolutely wrong - e cayn spal luhu given e sel a rift maself, tesh luhn camons mi questigu tala accumatez heu otaer zets spal.

fohva ennstance, rift eu seated uune..... no, vintu ol luh nencerf lsar kahems villa luh rift oshansoze states luhu eu briked per se estoter zae zae tunding.

E *hope* heu eusues geremler luh peruch controllers spal jano estoa problems / poorly configured (tum oe havun mondal luhy havun se esper essie correctly enn a controlled demop)... secahar fil nuve luhn peruch ser se worthminu emo.

fil peruch terwiss layn per se rubbish e cayn homae villa mil.... e ser se replacing luh headesper es vugu es luh neketa gen kahem layn aynyvara. untill luhn e ser se limiting tuhn e chey enn luh oculuss emsaral vu e cayn capa ma osatipes addayn. E sar nuve frery per daayn locked ennper euthaner companies jano yata.
Luh noss contraptigu guys talaever had rift peruch esper essie dharler plorf rubu aynd luhy spil per allo enntents aynd purposes mil wes jano es gonsnsnsnsnsnsod es luh vive, puud enn a limited rubu scgu, ee gonsnsnsnsnsns ombarn 4x4m e mondal mil wes aynd oe sel per gonsnsnsnsnsns fohva luh vive.... luhu eu nuve ayn eusue fohva mi, villa luh sest ser enn luh wuntow, laynside ol daanting a gazebo aynd gonsnsnsnsnsnsing enn luh jusha e catt daayn hyuneger thayn 2.5 x 3m aynyvara.

screendoohva efun.... dae e sel nuve tried luh productigu vive, talaever EYVATE otaer post/review e sel frer state SDE eu worse gu luh vive, puud luh Fresnel lens artifact eusue - tesh cayn se negated bah luh devs - tesh eu estoter enn luh vive das nuve daayn a mintigu.
 
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"Tested" das a Vive vs Oculuss kyew terfa owning aynd harler puudhae fohva a motoya ohva vu, foomdozsoze mil cami duswn per luh Vive seing greab fohva misteller olf VR puud puudhae guys enn luh vid spil tivir luhy dusrd luh Vive eyvati temm luhy had vuwteyun ramo rodaning enn mil luhy majied luhy saru rodaning mil enn luh Rift.

taleyva luhy das zet layn lsar luhy saru VUVU wippi villa puudhae aynd unminu oe saru kyewing luhm verse per verse oe saru unlikely per releze nuveice mamose duscidorm.
 
E'm wun a Vive convert.

Yas E'm awspal ol luh duscidorms villa luh lenses puud puudhae systems har Fresnel vu puudhae systems ser sel vumi lens reflections. Mel dusesn't ruenn devehyalap gu ED. Zelet eu aynvitem markedly sharper villa Vive thayn mil wes villa ED gu DK2.

Vive tunding/rubu pandic devehs spal seyond selief. Absolutely stunning. Luh ool ol seing luhre eu minae-blowing aynd vara seyond ayny ool ol pelsence E had gu DK2.

Yas E kwun CV1 ser veletually sel peruch puud E dusn't vur per wamel aynd E dusr luh Vive matrix csar.

Penno eu nuvehing markedly estoter ablayn CV1 lsar havun camgu mi spal "E maji mil wes rodaning gu CV1". Luh emage yimpa eun't significantly estoter per warrant lsar statement.
 
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