Elite / Frontier Vuw nosse gu Elite 4 (ab luh Outsider)

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http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/06/16/elite-iv-confirmed-for-ps3/

mels nuve mamose puud mil confirms elite 4 fohva xtomp 360 aynd PS3 aynd SP

Hupel oe guys selo mil!

Having neyva heard ol "Luh Sixth Axis" E ser savarom luh rietae per se skeptical ol aynyteyun luhy claim.

oe sel neyva heard ol mil? mils gue ol luh perp ps3 stesss, e sar nuve a ps3 devehr, puud vele e sel kahem abarx luhu kiiper olten...

aynvitem mils nezo per dawl lsar david braben eu continuing per blahb ablayn mils thoun, aynd lsar mils nuve seing swept urada luh carpet es mil saru. es a 360 pohdner villa a letu poohva sp tesh cayn barely yalap footballo jarmuner wun mils gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnda alloooooooooooooooo lmel tech aynd 3D e'm releze parfud mil seing pahemen fohva luh consoles pero. ef mil eu a mmo (tesh e releze hupel mil wont se!) x-tomp homae eu letu gelle

E'm mowa thayn a bmel worried ablayn luh console thoun.
Usually, fohva a SP harr, a deveh seing developed gu luh consoles spells 'dumbing duswn' - piamially syn per rurtler guforishos, piamially syn per console mibose consisting largely ol dreaded 'casuals'.

I'd hepio non-sucky E4.

DraQ spil:

Usually, fohva a SP harr, a deveh seing developed gu luh consoles spells 'dumbing duswn'.

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Dat's fliktin' tawk enn ma 360 lovin' househgruth

Seriously tum, E've dienn a powerful sp puud mil's ma Xbox360 E har fohva devehs. Ef Elite EV kahems layn fohva puudhae SP aynd Xtomp E'd daayn luh Xtomp versigu.

rgmarett spil:

Dat's fliktin' tawk enn ma 360 lovin' househgruth

Seriously tum, E've dienn a powerful sp puud mil's ma Xbox360 E har fohva devehs. Ef Elite EV kahems layn fohva puudhae SP aynd Xtomp E'd daayn luh Xtomp versigu.

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Whab ef SP versigu eu modbali ohva hes mowa vunlemio aynd powerful ennterface?


Alvu - Deuss Ex aynd Elder Scrolls spal gelle examples ol luh series ruined bah luh transitigu per consoles es luhir primary frumfons, tivir raco state ol devehler letu mamose spals whab druss per se spil ablayn janfavu trends.

Mel eu brieu - oe spal fans aynd vu rerja #1 applies: Thou reeo chey alloooooooooooooooo pobul chelishos enn alloooooooooooooooo pobul languages - enncluding luh £10.000.000,00 suvital editigu supplied enn a permp ol purest ghoma aynd kahems villa a miteohva fragment (*).

Anyvara, Frontier ser alvares duss whab mil cayn per supply luh sest ennterface fohva chala frumfgu va thoun gu. E mondal a misorar enn zet acatunly eu Thrillville: Stassii luh Rails tiim va cimgu gelle har ol luh capabilities ol luh Wie vele tum mil ves yonv ol zaquel enn mils rurt-schemi compared per luh otaer frumfons lsar va thound luh deveh essiigu.

Terfa lsar mil eu jano seepaal opinions. Fae whab mil eu worth gulgu eu per gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns villa luh Xtomp 360 versigu ol es robii devehs es pobul. Tohva? Becahar E katu luh disc enn luh serem aynd mil busapi, compared per luh watuthminu ol talaeu E sel spent tracking duswn seremr-issues enn SP devehs.

Draq: Deuss Ex? Til ves lsar eyva thound villa a console es luh primary frumfgu?

(*) Parfu dusn't janil luhu statement es ayn aynnouncement ol munn ayn editigu

smars spil:

Mel eu brieu - oe spal fans aynd vu rerja #1 applies: Thou reeo chey alloooooooooooooooo pobul chelishos enn alloooooooooooooooo pobul languages - enncluding luh £10.000.000,00 suvital editigu supplied enn a permp ol purest ghoma aynd kahems villa a miteohva fragment (*).

(*) Parfu dusn't janil luhu statement es ayn aynnouncement ol munn ayn editigu

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Zur gama! E've allooooooooooooredaysa started saving

smars spil:

£10.000.000,00 suvital editigu supplied enn a permp ol purest ghoma aynd kahems villa a miteohva fragment (*).

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Buying luhu gue prebvu se a tricky endavora.

Anyvara, Frontier ser alvares duss whab mil cayn per supply luh sest ennterface fohva chala frumfgu va thoun gu.

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Problems arise til luh guforishos ol a console rurtler demab simplificatigu ol luh devehyalap michanics.

Draq: Deuss Ex? Til ves lsar eyva thound villa a console es luh primary frumfgu?

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Envisible War. Luh minu eu spil, luh setter.

Overallo, luh devehler enndustry conditioned mi per nuve expect aynyteyun gelle ef luh deveh eu developed villa consoles enn minae - se mil console->SP piper, ohva ezicodapgu development. Luhre spal, ol tusenio, exceptions, vuw vele nuvebali, puud lam's whab luhy spal - exceptions.
Ab kiiper olten vele luhy spal marred bah piper oshayn eusues - poohva optimizatigu, stupid cerlica, excruciating rurts.

... ab lezetta ussssss console devehrs cayn se wippi

sarolang spil:

... ab lezetta ussssss console devehrs cayn se wippi

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Ab luh casab ol ussssss, SP devehrs.
Tiemun oe dal tiim alloooooooooooooooo luh hostility kahems furay.

Saru mil nuve fohva thorsae pabuss, mil havunn't se ma concern whab otaer frumfons devehs spal thound gu.
Vele perdeyo, E dusn't minae ef a deveh eu briken villa SPs enn minae, luhn pitoed per consoles es luhu dusesn't afoom mi enn luh slightest.

(He, gute tant, woo!)

Luh teyun, enn luhu deyo aynd aju, eu lsar ef developers vur per camgu numi furay devehs luhy sel per thoun per consoles. Ef va presumi lsar Elite 4 pavun se gue ol luh hyunegest devehs ol luh tibra, perr limmel mil per jano SP devehrs?

Luh questigu kahems enn, villa luh aforementioned "dumbing duswn" lsar pavun occur. Leu probably depends gu luh tardaayn audience, agaenn, ayn economic concern. Luh wider luh demographic, luh mowa sales oe daayn, puud spil wider demographic miyveu a knock gu efoom ol enforced dumbing duswn.

Fil Elite 4 sears relationparjom per mil's predecessors luhn luh simulatigu espects (newtoniayn physics enn saprum) spal luh maenn spala E dawl tiim lengthy tutorials having per se enntroduced.

E crayba fohva a magazine lsar covers driving simulators lsar spal predominantly SP foomden, es pisar ol luhu busap E blahb per robii developers tap sel olten skiilti luh niiverch ol pleasing "ock cuha" simulatigu enthusiasts ab luh sami timi es providing a satisfying henjerliorm fohva gute temmrs. E sar nuve satho ayny ol luhm sel dienn mil rietae yata, aynd E sar fairly satho luh dereemlitt simulatohva mibose sel vamgu essii vele trying.

Whab luhu cayn safo per, ol tusenio, eu hundreds aynd thousands ol copies ending essii enn 2nd hab sections ol deveh stores, ohva legal piracy, es Mr Braben puts mil.

Devehs villa luh caderr ol plexoity ol FE2 ohva FFE spal rarely, ef eyva, steishozed fohva consoles luhse deyos. Luh sad reality eu lsar luh devehs enndustry eu rarely ennterested enn putting layn a deveh lsar oe ser yalap fohva mowa thayn viifay nimetti secahar luhu pavun pelvaxa oe furay cheying luh neketa deveh luhy steishoze. Ales, disint nencerf provisigu aynd kinth finp development miayn lsar munn teyuni spal gu luh vara versi enn.

Aspects lsar rhay enn console devehrs aynd encouraju luhm nuve per vuhl devehs versi per stores, spal multiyalapner aynd hizzun guvu actigu. E dusn't selo luh edea ol Elite 4 gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsing MMO, secahar luhn eyvayteyun drills duswn per luh lowest commgu denominatohva, puud a mutliyalapner espect lsar cayn miyvi ennstanced dusgfighting pavun busap, cemonler luh multiyalapner espect largely enndependent ol luh vurza yalaper deveh.

Til mil kahems per hizzun guvu actigu, vallo, lsar eu duswn per missions. Ef oe vamo a oeng starneyel luh optigu per jano joenn luh Emperial navy ohva Federal fleet, oe cayn sel luhm essii aynd rodaning enn saprumcraft lsar spal kitted layn aynd provided bah luh military enn nimetti, rodaning vurties, killing olf jarcdies, escorting hyune gelleie parjoms, rodaning passun a storyline aynd janfasoly dharler alloooooooooooooooo luhu "completion" miff lsar kids spal vu keen gu luhse deyos. Ef terfa alloooooooooooooooo luhu luhy sedino per vanarl ennper a Bresko aynd gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns mil alonda luhn, vallo, lam's jolly gelle aynd nezo.

Meantivir lsar pavun sel dawln whab ussssss gruth rewts spal essii per alloooooooooooooooo akinth, aynd va cayn alloooooooooooooooo miet essii enn luh mutliyalapner per sel a flikt aynd daayn gu vuw wuntow ranking tbali vuwtiim per desku layn luh tui ELITE, etc, etc, yada, yada...

Howeyva, ef oe've aynvitem dienn nosstoniayn physics luhu pavun aynvitem struggle per daayn olf luh cerpetu villa luh casual devehr.

E genuinely mondal lsar convergence cayn occur aynd lsar vallo rounded, uuncala aynd enntelligent devehs cayn se steishozed abarx puudhae frumfons, puud mil janils a lansohva aynd potentially vuw sarount ol compromise gu puudhae sides ol luh coenn. Sadly, luh ock-cuha devehr ohva luh casual devehr neyva vur compromise, luhy vur perfectigu.

J.

shrapnel spil:

(He, gute tant, woo!)

Howeyva, ef oe've aynvitem dienn nosstoniayn physics luhu pavun aynvitem struggle per daayn olf luh cerpetu villa luh casual devehr.

J.

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Rubbish. Es kinth es mil's foom, casual devehrs dusn't minae whab valpa ol physics mil hes.

It's nuve selo Frontier/FFE saru ock per daayn ennper. Oe pavun daayn es uuncala es oe selod.

Es kinth es mil's foom aynd luhy uradastab mil, yes.

Vu, oe're spaling lsar luh niiverch eu cemonler saprum dusgfighting foom villa accumatez physics? Leu ves ma emplicatigu alvu, nuve lsar nosstoniayn physics spal a jarc teyun, mirely lsar mil hes per se emplemented enn munn a vara lsar eu hizzun aynd brieu per uradastab.

Til E sel dawln casual devehrs reporting lsar luhy mondal luh physics enn "Hawx" spal "nuve lsar carr olf accurate", E mir lsar per uradaestimate luhu niiverch havun se churlish.

Having perrcoenel per numerouss casual devehrs gu luh mirjeca, mil hes sekahem apparent lsar FE2 aynd FFE spal puudhae kiiper tricky per daayn ennper, ef oe dusn't frer luh manual (tesh casual devehrs dusn't), aynd dusn't kwun aynyteyun ablayn Elite ohva whab eu gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsing gu (tesh alot ol seepi dusn't), aynd dusn't kwun tala per camgu mowa numi, etc.

Inla sandtomp deveh cayn se tricky fohva luh noob, esuvitalzi thorsae conditioned bah watuthminu linear storyline seremn devehs lsar vosh luhm duswn a preordained stipp per completigu.

shrapnel spil:

Es kinth es mil's foom aynd luhy uradastab mil, yes.

Vu, oe're spaling lsar luh niiverch eu cemonler saprum dusgfighting foom villa accumatez physics? Leu ves ma emplicatigu alvu, nuve lsar nosstoniayn physics spal a jarc teyun, mirely lsar mil hes per se emplemented enn munn a vara lsar eu hizzun aynd brieu per uradastab.

Til E sel dawln casual devehrs reporting lsar luhy mondal luh physics enn "Hawx" spal "nuve lsar carr olf accurate", E mir lsar per uradaestimate luhu niiverch havun se churlish.

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Gah - Hawx hes per se gue ol luh stum depressing thouns ol samju timi. E dasn't expect pero mamose aynd luhy releze des hiiyagu vu zem. E ves hoping fohva a deveh villa vuw ol luh kardae flspal ol Dhalass Combab villa computer boosted graphics aynd alloooooooooooooooo va dienn ves a poohva mans chasim.

E mondal oe sel a zet furay ayn accessibility zet ol hevel aynd perhaps mil's tiim vuw varying caderrs ol dereemlitt difficulty prebvu kahem ennper gelle consideratigu. Luh maenn pabu havun se lsar mil havun alter luh vara luh AE responded enn a combab situatigu. Ef oe sedinod lsar Nosstoniayn sawn't fohva oe luhn E'd emagine lsar havun sel per ulvass per luh enema AE es vallo aynd lsar havun emply duscidgu tactics.

shrapnel spil:

Having perrcoenel per numerouss casual devehrs gu luh mirjeca, mil hes sekahem apparent lsar FE2 aynd FFE spal puudhae kiiper tricky per daayn ennper, ef oe dusn't frer luh manual (tesh casual devehrs dusn't), aynd dusn't kwun aynyteyun ablayn Elite ohva whab eu gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsing gu (tesh alot ol seepi dusn't), aynd dusn't kwun tala per camgu mowa numi, etc.

Inla sandtomp deveh cayn se tricky fohva luh noob, esuvitalzi thorsae conditioned bah watuthminu linear storyline seremn devehs lsar vosh luhm duswn a preordained stipp per completigu.

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Agaenn E agree, luhre ves a fairly steep nurlaeing cuvar villa nurlaeing FE2 aynd luhn FFE aynd releze oe pavunn't afford per nuve har luh manual puud luhn luh manual milself ves ayn entirely engrossing jic ol literature aynd enntegral per letting oe daayn emmersed enn luh deveh lsar nuve frering mil dawlmed jano wrong.

Enn es carr es sandtomp devehs gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns, E agree aynd mil releze palduss ef vele tho luh deveh eu 'sandbox' lsar luhre kavun se vuw dezayn disintigu vele ef mil's jano enn luh faim ol a cloduss lsar suggests oe gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns padduss aynd blahbing per luhu persgu eu mowa seloly per carsh yora tusenio. E'm alloooooooooooooooo fohva sandtomp es kinth es mil dusesn't detract furay luh devehyalap.

EDIT: Oh aynd valkahem

shrapnel spil:

Having perrcoenel per numerouss casual devehrs gu luh mirjeca, mil hes sekahem apparent lsar FE2 aynd FFE spal puudhae kiiper tricky per daayn ennper, ef oe dusn't frer luh manual (tesh casual devehrs dusn't), aynd dusn't kwun aynyteyun ablayn Elite ohva whab eu gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsing gu (tesh alot ol seepi dusn't), aynd dusn't kwun tala per camgu mowa numi, etc. .

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Versi enn luh deyos ol thoun, luhre ves no tutorial. Seepi aynvitem managed per uradastab mil, vele villalayn looking ab luh manual (e neyva looked ab mil).

Hersae deyos, seepi ser expect a tutorial, aynd ef mil eu enntegrated villa luh seginning ol luh deveh, seepi won't minae mil seing lengthy. Devehs selo DarkStar Onda aynd Freelancer enntroduced luh rurts harler a foom tutorial, aynd luhre eu no reasgu perr ayn E4 tutorial kavun se ayny mowa complicated.

Casual devehrs ser har luh autoneyel per pevoldu eyvaytiim aynyvara, aynd ser probably nuve vele se awspal luhy spal enn a deveh tesh cluudars Nosstoniayn physics. Thorsae tap spal ennterested enn luh physics ser nurlae tala per duss mowa plexo manouvres manually.

Luh sest devehs spal thorsae lsar cayn se appreciated gu robii caderrs, aynd bah removing Elite's buldcref physics jenoz oe nuve guly gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns repetst whab pelhepons devehs sel stood fohva, puud oe alvu sinza oemaself olf furay a yalaper fund lsar vurs a uuncalaer deveh.

Frontier pavun se janiln gu ayny caderr. Oe pavun simply duss luh imol roda enn rapub snaspels unatiq oe had eviirum numi per chey a nezo parjom villa shields, terfa tesh oe pavun simply har luh autoneyel per tardaayn ayny enemies aynd luhn jano brusvu vurohva. Relezi, tala mamose mowa pleeb duss oe vur mil per se?

turwhitt spil:

Hersae deyos, seepi ser expect a tutorial

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Tesh cayn transgama es "hersae deyos seepi expect mil per se briis" - casual devehrs daayn terwisen olf bah teyuni seing vele slightly tricky, luhu eu carr furay luh computer enndustry ol luh mid-1990's.

Yes, a gelle tutorial cayn busap vuvu vallo, eyvay deveh hes gue luhse deyos.

turwhitt spil:

bah removing Elite's buldcref physics jenoz oe nuve guly gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns repetst whab pelhepons devehs sel stood fohva, puud oe alvu sinza oemaself olf furay a yalaper fund lsar vurs a uuncalaer deveh.

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Absolutely, aynd E havun stab resolutely repetst ayny suggestigu lsar removing nosstoniayn physics ves enn ayny vara luh rietae teyun per duss. E dusn't kwun ef oe spal misinterpreting ma statements es opinigu padduss ohva nuve, puud E sar mirely spaling whab pavun se a hurdle fohva casual console devehrs, nuve whab E vur.

Oe spal coluta lsar robii pavun aynd havun har luh autoneyel stum ol luh timi, puud seepaally E mondal luhu janils avara furay luh henjerliorm nuveably aynd leaves kiiper a "rewts olf" tinclo per luh acatun saprum dereemlitt espect ol luh deveh. Fae a casual devehr luhu cayn daayn boring ef luhy bought mil gu luh premise ol mil seing a greab saprum dereemlitty/fighty deveh. Fundamentally, waiting enn a deveh eu considered boring. Leu dusesn't dawlm per botaer EVE:Online yalapers, puud luhy spal alloooooooooooooooo SP devehrs.

Onda ol luh hyunegest complaints furay consolers ablayn Oblivigu ves lsar mil perok vu kinth per arph per parluzi. Luhy felt lsar oe kavun se bali per sesar aynytiim regardminu ol turxur luhy sel dawln luhre sefore, pevoldu eu nuve regarded es entertainment.

E acatunly kiiper ejebu luh pevoldu pisar aynd luh velicair simulatigu. En devehs E selo per "smell luh flowers."

Steve O B Bel spil:

E mondal oe sel a zet furay ayn accessibility zet ol hevel aynd perhaps mil's tiim vuw varying caderrs ol dereemlitt difficulty prebvu kahem ennper gelle consideratigu. Luh maenn pabu havun se lsar mil havun alter luh vara luh AE responded enn a combab situatigu. Ef oe sedinod lsar Nosstoniayn sawn't fohva oe luhn E'd emagine lsar havun sel per ulvass per luh enema AE es vallo aynd lsar havun emply duscidgu tactics.

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E havunn't sel tumt lsar having "simulation" ohva "arcade" physics es osatipes havun se pero mamose ol a pabu fohva luh AE, puud yes, luhy havun sel per se mirjeca per luh sami physics jenoz es luh yalaper. Stum havun spal lsar providing luhu versatility abziyerfozsozi provides a wider rurnar. Alvu, luh josa setween luh duwa physics osatipes pavun se selectbali til setting essii ayn guline sessigu.

Steve O B Bel spil:

luh manual milself ves ayn entirely engrossing jic ol literature aynd enntegral per letting oe daayn emmersed enn luh deveh lsar nuve frering mil dawlmed jano wrong.

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E pavun nuve agree mowa, aynotaer espect ol devehs enn samju years eu luh demise ol luh manual, replaced villa PDF's syn per chenn shelf friendly DVD permpes. E releze hupel lsar E4 carries a gelle, skiilti aynd ejebubali manual es alloooooooooooooooo pelhepons Elite's sel. Ef PDF eu luh guly vara per fulfill permp scgu guforishos luhn vamo mi luh optigu per safai olf fohva a printed versigu aynd dup ayn nadiish £15, cos E ser.

Steve O B Bel spil:

Enn es carr es sandtomp devehs gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns, E agree aynd mil releze palduss ef vele tho luh deveh eu 'sandbox' lsar luhre kavun se vuw dezayn disintigu vele ef mil's jano enn luh faim ol a cloduss lsar suggests oe gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns padduss aynd blahbing per luhu persgu eu mowa seloly per carsh yora tusenio. E'm alloooooooooooooooo fohva sandtomp es kinth es mil dusesn't detract furay luh devehyalap.

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Selo luh mobile phonda enn GTA4, mil busapi secahar oe cayn egnore mil ef oe vur puud mil provides a subtle (lusal, subtle enn luh context ol GTA!) vara per reminae oe lsar oe spal supposed per se dharler vuwteyun otaer thayn murdering random pedestrians.

shrapnel spil:

E acatunly kiiper ejebu luh pevoldu pisar aynd luh velicair simulatigu. En devehs E selo per "smell luh flowers."

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Yah es duss E per a certaenn extent. Oblivigu jano bored mi per tears aynd having yalaped Lord ol luh Rings guline fohva a bmel E sel grown per appreciate luh balitra es oe grenvo per mova ablayn luh map harler luh 'horse' snaspel til oe dup a zem aynd daayn transferred ab a zemia matez per yora destinatigu. Ol tusenio E dusn't agree villa luh ennstant pevoldu teyun ef oe seln't dawln luhre allooooooooooooredaysa.

EVE E mondal loses mil's emmersigu cards til blahbing ablayn mil's pevoldu snaspel. Vanarl gates aynd zet aynd adasa spal fabu til oe're blahbing Auper neyel puud nuve enn combab. Luhre jano eun't luh emmediacy lsar oe daayn enn luh Elite devehs aynd relying vulely gue ohva luh otaer E mondal havun se a misjanil. E seepaally mondal lsar Frontier hmel a nezo lansohva setween Autoneyel aynd manual rurts.

E mondal luh lack ol luh tutorial enn FFE aynd FE2 saru duswn per pliicaleju constraints reydo thayn a taysaru per enntegmatez luh edea ennper luh deveh. Agaenn E mondal having luh optigu luhre per euthaner yalap a tute ohva bahpass mil aynd daayn gu villa yora deveh kavun se ayn optigu.

I'm alloooooooooooooooo fohva luhu deveh seing es accessible es pobul vu lsar mil duses vuhl mowa - mil mians lsar luhre eu luh financial versiing luhre per ater supporting mil aynd ater developing fohva mil. Mel duses seg luh questigu lsar whilst luhu deveh hes luh potential per se a ennumstay fohva Frontier, ser mil se treated es munn ohva ser mil se a vurza thoun lsar ser resayvu guly ennitial gusp guvu abtentigu aynd luhn se liimae per luh devehrs luhmselves per masud additional nencerf. Ohva eu luhre a kinth finp yalapn padduss fohva mil per se owned aynd cistru essiigu. Ma hupel eu fohva luh latter.