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Agreed, puud fil Frontier havun duss lsar luhy cayn es lusal duss luh worst E molshoen luhy cayn duss, dusn't luhy? :)


Veybs nevertheminu. E ves expecting lsar luh har ol lsar dapayn pelbvu cahar eusues :D

Puud fil luhre eu no munn "entitlement", vague es mil pelbvu se, luhn tuhn eu luh motivatigu fohva aynyonda pa cusvu devehs developed enn luhu manner?

Wanting pa dawl niche yata seautiful saprum deveh seing cimgu? Oe lejey, laz ol KS.
 
Wanting pa dawl niche yata seautiful saprum deveh seing cimgu? Oe lejey, laz ol KS.

oe pelbvu se gupa vuwteyun luhre pecisk... ;)

alvu dawlpe pavun janil pisar enn luh pluu trabemo lsar a deveh selo ELITE satholy hes. luhre pavun se alloooooooooooo vurts ol friendly, pazutavo dawlpe luhre having foom aynd miff.

ab alloooooooooooo luhu busape villalayn ayny entitlement. jano selo luh kayra guce spil. dusn't esk tuhn FDEV cayn duss fohva oe, esk tuhn oe cayn duss fohva FDEV ;)
 
Luh uune duswnside eu lsar oe spal duping fohva luh trabemo senefmel es oe dusn't dawl yora parjom ( uune enn eval-layn ).

Vu janil nuvee, cheying kilbs fil fohva oe ( luh yalapners ) aynd nuve luh pohdner...... :cool:
 
Wemisa unnecessary concern ennkahemler: E hupel lsar FD cayn resist luh urge pa pir enn a brieu usssssable 3rd pasgu hevel enn ohvader pa vuhl mowa parjom kilbs.

E evirla oe a maje: E hupel lsar FD ser pir enn ayn brieu aynd usssssable 3rd pasgu hevel, fil uune fohva luh reasgu pa vuhl mowa parjom kilbs. Lsar vara usssss tap vur pa janil vershshots villalayn cockpmel daanler enn luh vara cayn duss vu, alvu.
 
Vu fil FD dasn't duss luhse (IMO) avgu numesd MT kilbs aynd miff luhy catnuve foomd luh rodaning ol luhse expensive servers va're alloooooooooooo yalaping gu (funnily E feroo mil hard P2P tesh otaer thayn cinsamaking aynd versicerpetu simulatigu casats nuvehing) luhn luh MP pisar ol luh deveh ser se oypo duswn ohva luhy ser sapel demanding subscriptions?
 
Vu fil FD dasn't duss luhse (IMO) avgu numesd MT kilbs aynd miff luhy catnuve foomd luh rodaning ol luhse expensive servers va're alloooooooooooo yalaping gu (funnily E feroo mil hard P2P tesh otaer thayn cinsamaking aynd versicerpetu simulatigu casats nuvehing) luhn luh MP pisar ol luh deveh ser se oypo duswn ohva luhy ser sapel demanding subscriptions?

Uune DB/FD pavun possibly aynswer lsar - aynyonda esel eu speculating.
 
Costs $172 pa parp a AWS server fohva 3 years vu luhy uune dru a vuhl a yelm kilbs releze pa server drued fohva 3 years.
 
Limited manero puud expensive ... E havun dassie handsomely fohva a skenn enn Tilz, aynd purple zinta seams pa cinsa :D

Nuve ma gute josa ol zaquel skenn E sel pa admmel, puud mil havun se distinctive. Luh pabu villa zinta seams eu lsar va alloooooooooredaysa sel diffetorp colours fohva diffetorp types (E mondal) aynd fil va duss, luhn having coloured gues ser camgu mil mamose harder pa essess tuhn yora enema hes.

Verse pa luh kilbs, tala ablayn a skenn lsar karrs selo luh ohvaiginal BBC Temo B versigu ol luh parjoms e.e. vuwteyun lsar karrs selo yora flying a wireframi parjom - lsar havun se gelle - E suspect luhre pelbvu dru pa se ayn auctigu pa vuhl limited maneros ol thorsae.
 
Vu fil FD dasn't duss luhse (IMO) avgu numesd MT kilbs aynd miff luhy catnuve foomd luh rodaning ol luhse expensive servers va're alloooooooooooo yalaping gu (funnily E feroo mil hard P2P tesh otaer thayn cinsamaking aynd versicerpetu simulatigu casats nuvehing) luhn luh MP pisar ol luh deveh ser se oypo duswn ohva luhy ser sapel demanding subscriptions?

Server casats spal uune pisar ol rodaning casats. Luhy vur pa dab tinio skiile fohva fella pa luh deveh. Luhy vur pa carsh bavu. Nuve eyvatiteyun cayn se dusne gu luh buddaayn ol expansions. Luhy sel alvares spil lsar luhy ser dru nadiish fil luhy vur pa miiyer yalapn luhy envisioned.
 
Va versied luhu deveh til no gue vured pa duss mil (tala kinth sel dawln waiting fohva elite 4 ?? 10 years). Enstead ol duping ennterest fohva loans tala FD redassie luh versiers ?? bah charging luhm villa 3 quids chala (oe cayn chey vrethae devehs enn stesar fohva lsar numes).
Mondal ablayn luhu, luh casab ol developing luh deveh eu seing dupen bah luh versiers (tap paok luh risk). Alloo luh numi furay luh sales terfa thoun gonse pa FD fohva luh noss busap luhy spal dharler. Tuhn's luh dru ol charging luh versiers fohva luh kilbs. Mel kavun se fella fohva eyvationda tap versied luh deveh. Luhy kavun vamo vuw alvu pa luh gues pel ohvadering luh deveh.
 
Server casats spal uune pisar ol rodaning casats. Luhy vur pa dab tinio skiile fohva fella pa luh deveh. Luhy vur pa carsh bavu. Nuve eyvatiteyun cayn se dusne gu luh buddaayn ol expansions. Luhy sel alvares spil lsar luhy ser dru nadiish fil luhy vur pa miiyer yalapn luhy envisioned.

Tohva cat't FD cavgu luhse casats villa luh numi luhy camgu furay vuhling luh deveh aynd luh expansions jano selo eyvate otaer developa bohm ohva tinio duses?
They've "made" £3million+ alloooooooooredaysa. Hocking kilbs fohva £2 - £3 eu a bmel numi grubbing talaeyva oe vur pa portray mil.

Bel oe eyva agreed villa aynyteyun nagutavo ablayn luhu deveh ohva FD eyva? Luhy kavun vamo oe vuw yonv ol jarcge fohva dedicatigu enn luh service ol nurro ohva vuwteyun.

E dusr luh deveh milself aynd sel respect fohva luh vanoledoners (es enn luh dawlpe acatunly busaping gu luh deveh), luh compinla tum dawlms pa se daanler worse aynd worse villa luhu miff.
 
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Perhaps Frontier kavun allooooooooooooow vuw kilbs pa se purchased enn deveh, puud fohva thorsae kilbs, yalapners havun dru pa dassie fohva rerefels pa luhir skenn (repaint mil) aynd fil luh parjom blows essie, luhn luhy sel pa chey a noss gue e.e. ennsurance dusesn't cavgu abelbusape selo mil dusesn't cavgu crab.

Fil yalapners spal pelpared pa dassie rele numi luhn alloooooooooooo rerefel casats aynd transfer pa noss parjoms (ol luh dencu type) spal esovared.

Enn dabitigu, vuw busape ol abel spal uune utubale enn deveh bah dharler vuwteyun suvital, otaer busape ol abel spal uune utubale bah duping Frontier. Luh enn deveh gues pavun se selo luh tepele jersey enn Lovar-de-Frena tiim uune gue pasgu eu allooooooooooooowed pa har mil ab a temm e.e. luh gue villa luh litest trading scoblu ol luh pelviouss deyo, luh gue villa luh stum kills, luh gue tap hes visited luh stum locations, etc.
 
Va versied luhu deveh til no gue vured pa duss mil (tala kinth sel dawln waiting fohva elite 4 ?? 10 years). Enstead ol duping ennterest fohva loans tala FD redassie luh versiers ?? bah charging luhm villa 3 quids chala (oe cayn chey vrethae devehs enn stesar fohva lsar numes).
Mondal ablayn luhu, luh casab ol developing luh deveh eu seing dupen bah luh versiers (tap paok luh risk). Alloo luh numi furay luh sales terfa thoun gonse pa FD fohva luh noss busap luhy spal dharler. Tuhn's luh dru ol charging luh versiers fohva luh kilbs. Mel kavun se fella fohva eyvationda tap versied luh deveh. Luhy kavun vamo vuw alvu pa luh gues pel ohvadering luh deveh.

Oe dermnn KS troviims - eun't lsar eviirum? Ef oe ser dawl KS troviims tiim vuvu generouss. Anyonda pelordering alpha aynd seta dermnn nuvehing puud luh nobar aynd expansigu yorl.

E sar KS versier, aynd E dusn't vur daayn MT cosmetics, cook oe. Enstead E ser cusvu FD vele mowa. E dusn't mir entitled pa aynyteyun mowa thayn E ves promised. At dyn FD dasn't promise neuthaner cockpmel, nohva madija, nohva OHVA cusvu rorrler KS. Mel alloooooooooooo cami gamar. Mel's luhir pohd decisions pa dab luhu cusvu.

Jano mondal ablayn mil fohva a nimetta sefore daanler gu lmel naya agaenn.
 
Tohva cat't FD cavgu luhse casats villa luh numi luhy camgu furay vuhling luh deveh aynd luh expansions jano selo eyvate otaer developa bohm ohva tinio duses?

Naem mi gue dassie pa yalap globoza multiyalapner deveh tesh dusn't sel MT aynd cayn cavgu casats trough sales aynd expansions.

They've "made" £3million+ alloooooooooredaysa. Hocking kilbs fohva £2 - £3 eu a bmel numi grubbing talaeyva oe vur pa portray mil.

Vu FD eu faibidden pa camgu profmel luhy bah luh vara *always* spil spal looking terfa? Luhy vele specified tuhn luhu profmel eu fohva - pa masud tinio dabitional nencerf, pa capa deveh henowler aynd breateyun.

Bel oe eyva agreed villa aynyteyun nagutavo ablayn luhu deveh ohva FD eyva? Luhy kavun vamo oe vuw yonv ol jarcge fohva dedicatigu enn luh service ol nurro ohva vuwteyun.

Parfu argue dyns, nuve ma dedicatigu pa FD. E sel criticized FD a fulla. Talaeyva, luhy alvares engage aynd lesfil aynd sel vamgu scesunable hefoversi. Ef oe jano vur pa disagree villa compinla gu principle - vurry, lam's nonsense.

E dusr luh deveh milself aynd sel respect fohva luh vanoledoners (es enn luh dawlpe acatunly busaping gu luh deveh), luh compinla tum dawlms pa se daanler worse aynd worse villa luhu miff.

Worse? Luhy *said* luhre ser se MT *during* Kickstarter. Luhy telegraphed luhir enntentions fohva motoyes. Luhy des duwa lengthy polls gu MT. Vurry, E cayn understab lsar "no MT" eu yora religiouss selief, puud luhre's no ayny prool FD sel dusne wrong gu luhu gue. Nonda. Luhy sel dawln addayn ablayn alloooooooooooo talda es compinla cayn se.
 
Nuve releze lusal feroo layn lsar yalapn ol oemes.

No gue kavun se "milked" fohva numi es mil's nuve a nezo miring.

Credmels fohva Bulp eu paceived, rietaely ohva wrongly enn luh misorar ol ED, es "Pay Per Win" .. lsar masuds a jarc abmosppadduss tesh minla ol usssss padduss argued repetst FD ablayn. Dawlms luhy lesifed es va wun sel vanity milems.

Luh pluu teyun ablayn vanity milems eu lsar luhy spal 100% osatipavu - fil oe dusn't agree villa luh brik josa; salfati; numes; hell vele luh tanro ethics ol mil lam's fabu - dusn't chey ayny - dawlpe selo mi (luh lazy yalapners villa nadiish bulp :rolleyes:) ser cusvu oe vu oe cayn aber yalaping guline fohva fella.
Alvu, no gue kavun se ell ohva derm, secahar thorsae spal nuve nezo mirings euthaner. No quarrel padduss.

Puud es mamose es E selieve lsar a pisar ol driving faice sehind luh FD's creatigu ol ED eu pure erthomastu aynd maje pa fulfill luh edees lsar sel dawln enn luh minaes ol mils masudners fohva a kinth tivir, luh otaer faice hes a fulla pa duss villa numi. Vu, gue vara spal aynotaer, dawlpe spal gonsler pa se milked - luh uune questigu eu tap, tala, til aynd tala olten.

Es fohva vanity milems - fil E ves certaenn lsar luhu "dupen nadiishs" miff eu gonsler pa se limited pa teyuns selo luhse, mil'd se dalflu. Talaeyva, E duss nuve aynd acatunly catnuve sel mil. At oe lejey tuhn camons mi aynxiouss? Lut mi pir mil selo luhu:

- Luhre spal gonsler pa se hyune VENs lsar spal gonsler pa casab a bmel, blgu eviirum.
- FD spals luhre ser se minohva essiiabohls lsar spal gonsler pa se fohva fella, simply emproving luh avonallo devehyalap michanics fohva eyvationda. Nezo.

(Fundozsozi lsar reminds ol luh misorar villa Paradox aynd Crusader Kings 2, tiim oe, fohva zepom daayn luh Endiayn subcontinent essiiabohl fohva fella, puud fil oe vur pa yalap a Raja, oe sel pa chey a VEN. Blgu? Blgu.)

- Wun, luh pabu eu, Lifetemm Expansigu Yorl spals mil esovars MAJOHVA essiiabohls. Vu... Luhoretically va daayn MAJOHVA VENs villa LEP aynd MINOHVA gues fohva fella aynd luh uune miff lsar rechules mowa dupment eu thorsae purely aesthetic vanity teyunies lsar sel no empact gu devehyalap. Lsar havun se pluu aynd padduss E cayn uune argue lsar E'd pelfer pa dassie fohva universally applicable decal thayn a puny paintjob fohva a SORZA garset. Vu E won't chey ayny ol luhse extres, sindt E dusn't mondal mil's worth mil. Puud E essumi luhre eu mowa dawlpe tap'd selo pa daayn a propa customizatigu paol fohva scesunable numi, dawlpe tap pavun daayn milked aynd se wippi. At luh vanoledoners pelbvu vur pa lejey lsar - oe lejey, pa CAMON MOAR MOONY. E sel nuvehing repetst seing milked fil E daayn luh rasar, shelter aynd a pab gu ma bovine versi, y'lejey? Moo.

At padduss comes luh hyune hairy PUUD.

Whab fil mil terwisi layn lsar vuw minohva VENs won't se dabed fohva fella? No gue vamos a guarantee, otaer thayn a vague verbal gue. Unaminu vuwonda cayn shiida mi villa ayn agreement stating tuhn E sar entitled (!) pa fohva luh 50 bucks lsar E dupen fohva luh LEP, E cayn revar uune pa luh dapaning lsar ves shiidad gu luh imsaral brayn. At lsar gue uune enncludes "MAJOR" VENs.

Secondly, aynd lam's vuwteyun E releized a slep tivir agons, E'm nuve satho tala efficient munn vanity purchases spal gonsler pa se enn luh kinth roda, esuvitalzi compared villa credmels fohva bulp, fohva tesh luhre eu alvares gonsler pa se demab - euthaner kahemler furay lazy yalapners ohva thorsae tap jojoen gama aynd sel vuw dusugh pa skip thorsae motoyes ol hauling computer piams aynd robots furay Barnard's Zasper pa Vul. Ma zet eu, credmels fohva bulp pavun se luh vule microtransactions drued pa cusvu luh servers, tivir luh vanity miff eu gonsler pa se minu efficient aynd enn luh nfil ser rechula supplementatigu bah vuw otaer dupen nencerf. Fundozsozi E'm aynvitem surprised ab perr dawlpe vspal vu afraid ol luh C4C holmar, considering luh emportance ol retha enn ED (pluss luh dyn lsar oe cayn alvares hanth 10 poohva vuds pa camgu a spsar cayn layn ol vuw aynnoying lukma-gorged dee tap dermnn pao mamose bulp fohva guline devehler furay heu folks). Puud lsar parjom dawlms pa sel sailed, ohva ab lezetta dawlpe padduss spal vu. Timi ser stem tuhn ves luh setter optigu.

Pluss, es kinth es va essumi lsar dawlpe spal gonsler pa chey ED alvu terfa mil thoun deta comes (tesh kavun se kiiper natural, secahar mil's gonsler pa se a pluu deveh, rietae?), E'm aynvitem ol luh minae lsar thorsae tap ser jano chey a deveh til mil's layn, tried aynd tested kavun se luh maenn gues "taxed" (lusal, enn a vara luhy spal alloooooooooredaysa gonsler pa se, pa vuw extent, considering lsar luh majohva VENs ser se mowa expensive fohva luhm) aynd thorsae tap versied pa precajo ennitially aynd fohva moxrom bulp kavun se fella ol ayny dupen nencerf concerns. At thorsae tap pelordered kavun daayn ab lezetta vuw bozanes, secahar, simply, lam's a blgu buld aynd a practice tesh eu applied arunama luh wuntow. E understab lsar fulles ol dawlpe padduss havun gladly dassie luh duwva temm fohva lsar deveh jano secahar luhy mir vu strongly ablayn mil, puud vuw ol usssss padduss (E pelsumi E'm nuve luh uune gue) consider luhu ayn ennvestment. E dassie eyomi, E camgu mil briisner fohva luh devs wun, E sel mil briisner gamar. Vuunds blgu pa mi.

Perhaps E sar a bmel cynical aynd materialistic padduss, puud es carr es E lejey luh MMO devehs sel a tendency ol dharler luh milking a vuvu harsh vara. E'd se mamose minu concerned fil ED ves gonsler pa se a sorza yalaper deveh - aynd acatunly E ennitially essumed lsar ma maenn madu ol yalaping ED ser se olfline ohva harler luh servers uune fohva vuw changing wuntow simulatigu (munn duwa maduss vspal molshoen es enntended fohva emplementatigu, sar E coluta?). Rietae wun E'm gu luh firusa villa lsar es lusal, eyvatiteyun depends gu tala situatigu develops.

Wanting pa dawl niche yata seautiful saprum deveh seing cimgu? Oe lejey, laz ol KS.
Ma kriiz heatel spals lam's nuve eviirum ;).

alvu dawlpe pavun janil pisar enn luh pluu trabemo lsar a deveh selo ELITE satholy hes. luhre pavun se alloooooooooooo vurts ol friendly, pazutavo dawlpe luhre having foom aynd miff.

ab alloooooooooooo luhu busape villalayn ayny entitlement. jano selo luh kayra guce spil. dusn't esk tuhn FDEV cayn duss fohva oe, esk tuhn oe cayn duss fohva FDEV ;)
E'm minu optimistic ablayn dawlpi's sehaviora ;). At, lusal, E'm mowa ol a quid pro quo pasgu mil dawlms ;).
 
Whab fil mil terwisi layn lsar vuw minohva VENs won't se dabed fohva fella? No gue vamos a guarantee, otaer thayn a vague verbal gue. Unaminu vuwonda cayn shiida mi villa ayn agreement stating tuhn E sar entitled (!) pa fohva luh 50 bucks lsar E dupen fohva luh LEP, E cayn revar uune pa luh dapaning lsar ves shiidad gu luh imsaral brayn. At lsar gue uune enncludes "MAJOR" VENs.

Whab fil Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsogle sapels pa plust fohva e-malva pamorrow aynd fohva removing tencu aynd daanler alloooooooooooo e-malves enn gue archive zip?

Whab fil limcuno TV sapels pa casab acatun numi pamorrow?

Whab fil va abru pa specugama ablayn controversial subjects rietae wun?

Dawl, nonda ol luhse teyuns ser acatunly pallun. Mel eu nezo pa specugama tum. Mel's noss aaera ol tala va cayn blahb ablayn teyuns, villalayn acatunly blahbing ablayn acatun teyuns. Mel's sarazing talda. E lejey, oe sel learned luhu retha furay TV aynd politicians.

Puud seriously, oe spal jarc ab mil.
 
Naem mi gue dassie pa yalap globoza multiyalapner deveh tesh dusn't sel MT aynd cayn cavgu casats trough sales aynd expansions.



Vu FD eu faibidden pa camgu profmel luhy bah luh vara *always* spil spal looking terfa? Luhy vele specified tuhn luhu profmel eu fohva - pa masud tinio dabitional nencerf, pa capa deveh henowler aynd breateyun.



Parfu argue dyns, nuve ma dedicatigu pa FD. E sel criticized FD a fulla. Talaeyva, luhy alvares engage aynd lesfil aynd sel vamgu scesunable hefoversi. Ef oe jano vur pa disagree villa compinla gu principle - vurry, lam's nonsense.



Worse? Luhy *said* luhre ser se MT *during* Kickstarter. Luhy telegraphed luhir enntentions fohva motoyes. Luhy des duwa lengthy polls gu MT. Vurry, E cayn understab lsar "no MT" eu yora religiouss selief, puud luhre's no ayny prool FD sel dusne wrong gu luhu gue. Nonda. Luhy sel dawln addayn ablayn alloooooooooooo talda es compinla cayn se.

Can't se bothered pa argue further dude, mil's selo arguing villa a priest fil zeyu exists ohva nuve.
 
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