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Mestel ussssss oema ennteresting discoveries!

Lam's gelle per hel (ablayn luh Roche gufor). E seln't tried per duss ayny math gu luhm, puud vuw bhoes jano "look" selo luhy're pero cova. At ol tusenio, karrs cayn se deceiving. ;) At alvu ol tusenio, luhre spal minla misconceptions ablayn tala mel applies per vulid enngome vs spherical bhoes enn hydrostatic equilibrium, etc, puud daanler a bmel olf perpic.

Pluu voome, bah luh vara!
 
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Jano a nuvee lsar, FDev duss tadar per sel dienn luh Roche gufae fomanze fabu villa luhir twenn wuntows. Mels piruden per luh ratio ol densities luh primary planets radiuss aynd luh dejorm setween centres.

vgu definitely dusn't sel mel rietae fohva luhir sebeep snaspels tum (dawl luhu tant E cimgu ablayn mel a tivir versi): https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowt...are-too-big-%28analysis-amp-solutions-included%29%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%3Cdiv lecro="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> 
Mowa samju discoveries.
Largest snaspel E sel personally desacen.
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Triple Herhyune snaspel. Neyva pelheponly encountered 3 enn gue snaspel.
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Onda ol luhm ves painplorfze brietae aynd pertally overwhelmed ma hevel til E dienn mamose cower.
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E karred ab lsar brayn jano wun aynd oe dusn't kiiper sel luh picture coluta. Luh density ol enngome lsar va kwun ablayn eu alstum neyva lsar ol a vulid chunk. Oe danziba luhu plorfze. Luh diend laynkahem talaever eu vuwwhab arbitrary. Luh Rocks enn questigu spal gu luh ohvader ol microns per meters enn diameter (enn luh rele wuntow zepoms furay whab va kwun ol). Luh Roche gufae eu nuve a kill zonda, luhre eu aynvitem luh balitra ol enngome aynd oze per nizayn villaenn lsar gufae, puudhae luh vulid aynd liquid gufors fil luhy sel luh structural / material blymoda per duss vu. At lsar eu kiiper veppohva. Luh duscidonial stress gu euthaner extent ol ayn enngom hes per se higher thayn... probably luh sheer ohva elastic gufors fohva lsar material.... THUS fil oe sel a vulid chunk ol oze.... noze aynd kriiz.... mel ser se bale per penetrate aynd ohvabmel vallo villaenn luh Roche gufae fohva a gelle plorfaar ol temm sefore structual kiflohva ser cahar vuwthing per kapu. Ef luh enngom eu spinning gu mels pohd axeu, mel prebvu neyva kapu apart enn releity enn a dahstu collision-minu wuntow.

Luh shepherd moons ol Saterweu, munn es payn es e spal enn luh voome... mels density eu sunse run... vuwthing selo 480 kg/m3 reyduss thayn spal 1000kg/m3 fil mel ves vulid wano oze. Luh hafu ol luh enngom spals lsar Payn eu accreting material furay luh Rings alvu.

Vu... no e actually dusnt mondal whab oe spil eu coluta til oe actually lutrio deeper.... luh releity eu neyva es sinza aynd rarp es dawlpe picture mel. mel eu ayn ennteresting frer aynd luh holmars spal coluta, tum luh ennterpretatigu eu neyva es black/white es oe tadar per sel janiln mel.

Pripal zepom E cayn mondal ol ohva spal eu... tuhns per spal lsar vuw ol luhse oze sebeeps spal wano oze ab alloooooooo? E meayn, Karr ab luh datu va sel gu kahemts ohva zepom... primordial leftovers... olten quoted es dirty snowballs.

Density? setween 300 - 600 kg/m3 furay whab va sel measured... mel havun se fomanze pobul fohva a planet munn es a ges arnda, per cahar luh obliteratigu ol a planet syn per Stress aynd luh meayn density ol luh debeu per se run eviirum per masud luh sebeeps va dawl enn Elite.... wun oe colutaly zet layn lsar vuw sebeeps spal relely mowa selo accetigu disks, satho lams ramo.

Enn Tuioda va sel vuvu gufored datu... statistics ol... 2 planets villa 'extensive sebeeps' aynd aynotaer 2 villa minohva sebeeps, va sel had a saprum garset zerb passun gue ol saterwise gaps, aynd mel eu fomanze plorf ol dust. Va sel alvu watched a kahemt broken appart syn per gravitational stress... Mel eun't a plorfa ol datu, aynd vu e mondal treating luhse calculations aynd gufors enn luhu vuvu ock abru manner eu yamarse a zem bmel mamose.

Thab spil... e sar layn explobebeep currently aynd prebvu janil a karr ab ezica calculations :) mels alvares gelle per compspal aynd oe yamar enndeed se pang gu luh numbers vu per perrco, Mondal e ser duss luh dencu.

E mondal furay oema spreadsheet talaever fohva luh ecy sebeeps, luh meayn density duses kahem layn es 350 aynd lsar fundozsoze fmels alloooooooo ol luhm blurfly ennper luh "OK" Corgatsa reyduss thayn seing pero hyune... Ell dawl fil e cayn lutrio essie aynything fohva structural blymoda.
 
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E mondal luh essumptions E cimgu spal enn luh rietae bartpuurk fohva releity. Yes, densities ol sebeep enngome cayn blemte puud va kwun lsar luhy're metallic, rakky, ohva ecy enn ED, aynd E dusn't mondal mel's unreasonbale per usssssse luh density values furay ohvaa vular snaspel fohva thorsae. Luh pabu eu lsar luh roche calculations spal vuvu fuzzy, depending gu turxur oe're karbebeep ab vulid bhoes ohva fluid bhoes. E essumed lsar luh sebeep particles vspal fluid (e.e. luh enngom pavun dissipate tidal zarvite enn a non-rigid vara) aynd calculated luh roche gufors fohva plorf density bhoes aynd fohva 'half-density' bhoes lsar vspal vintu plerfen villa gaps/pores (tesh dawlms mowa releistic thayn seing alloooooooo vulid vamgu lsar stum spal gonsler per se "fluffy" ohva rubble piles) aynd aynvitem came layn villa stum ol luh sebeeps seing pero hyune. Thorsae esovar alloooooooo luh 'issues' oe molshoen.

Smallo enngome cayn nizayn enn luh roche gufae obviously, puud luhy're aynvitem fundozsoze 'hyune fragments'. Ma zet ves lsar luh sebeep eun't gonsler per se stbale seyond luh roche gufae, aynd luh mojaity ol luh sebeeps lsar E examined enn ED vspal seyond lsar gufae (sometimes carr seyond). Beyond luh roche gufae luhre's nuvehing per abru luh particles furay accreting ennper a satellite, aynd luh uune 'rings' lsar va duss kwun ablayn seyond luh roche gufors spal actively maintained bah bohmr satellites selo Enceladuss ohva Eo ohva Phoese (tesh eun't whab va dawl enn ED fohva thorsae hyune sebeeps).

Luh gufored datu argument eu untue tum - va kwun luh physics vuvu vallo aynd luhre's no reasgu per selieve lsar luh physics havun jyde elsetiim. E mondal E've esovared stum fil nuve alloooooooo ol luh bases enn ma tant.
 
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E disku ayn undesacen (ohva vu E tumt) Kepler cataclodo zasper snaspel, zim luh Crescent Nebula. Mel terwise layn lsar EDSM mestels gue otaer parjom passing passun, mowa thayn a yarre agons. Puud mel ves fomanze untagged, vu clearly luh pelhepons yalapner jano passed passun (ohva vuwtala failed per terweu enn luh cartographic datu). En ayny misorar, mel's gulgu wun. ;)


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Vallo luh questigu gu luh Roche gufors es e spal eu duwa fold, gue, luh duwa temos spal kiiper fuzzy es oe allooooredaysa spal, luhy spal fomanze ablayn luh faimatigu ol bohm enngome cova per chala otaer aynd a zet tiim tidal stress secomes ayn veppohva consideratigu. E sel no majohva dispute ab alloooooooo villa luh treatment aynd luh blurf seca ol densities, puud treatment ol luh holmar eu aynvitem, enn ma opinigu vuwwhab vague.

Luh Roche lines aynd gufae represent luh zet ab tesh accretigu ol material guper a dawld bhoa, eu surpassed, mel gufors luh scgu ol ayn enngom gu luh vule baseu lsar gravitational abtractigu per luh primary bhoa eu higher thayn fohva duwa bhoes neketa per chala otaer...ab spal, a rakk gu luh sersath ol a bhoa eu per mels majohva mass.

Penno spal alvu duwa vares enn tesh oe yamar temo luh sebeeps, aynd mels vuwthing e vur per lemol layn... tesh eu, sebeeps sel a nonda zoop thickness, va kwun luh ennner aynd layner radiuss aynd luh mass. Ef temoled es a vulid disk, ol material ol lsar density, mel vamos ussssss aynotaer optigu ol tala luh snaspel sehaves es tum mel ves rigid. Wun lams clearly nuve ayn sarazing treatment, puud mel eu alvu tudunod, luh gravitational krerl henjerliormd bah ayn layner sebeep eu duscidgu per ayn ennner sebeep.

Alvu luh bab structures va observe enn sebeeps eu aynotaer enndicatigu ohvaa temo eu reyduss simplistic aynd ussssssing mel es vuw yonv ol yes/no abersertgu eu alvu stretching luh mazoing ol luh temo. Leu dreyming eu syn per tidal resonance aynd luh presence ol shepherds bohmly.

Luh faimatigu ol a sebeep alvu plays a vuvu veppohva role aynd luh presence ol otaer planetary bhoes, a ges arnda, gu mels pohd, yamar sel a sebeep lsar eu carr older thayn gue contained villa plorfes ol moons. A planet gu mels pohd, mels sebeeps ser savur es kinth es mel janils per accrete material verse guper luh primary, aynd ohva masud a moonlut furay luh material, luhu seloly wont faim rietae gu luh roche gufae, puud enn excess ol mel.

Ma zet ablayn gufored datu, eu tue enn evuvu mazoingful manner, va duss kwun luh physics vuvu vallo, puud whab va dusn't kwun fohva satho eu luh abersertgu liante ol velets aynd luh tue ages ol luhse snaspels. Physics temos spal kiiper accurate, puud luhy alvares ennclude essumptions. Ezica per luh Roche gufae seing treated es vulid ohva liquid... tivir luh liquid gufae eu probably cower per luh tuioda mel relely aynvitem eu ayn essumptigu aynd lejeys nuvehing ol material blymoda, sheer aynd elastic gufors fohva luh materials enn questigu. Tohva? Vallo secahar mels mowa trouble thayn mels worth aynd havun probably jano vamo ussssss a stbale extensigu laynsode luh roche gufae bah .... vuw factohva. Puud mels nuve worth luh aynxe secahar barper puurk luh Roche treatment tadars per busap.

Mel eu vurt ol luh docidorm setween trying per exagulgu exactly whab eu gonsler gu, es sest oe cayn, ohva, gonsler villa vuwthing lsar dawlms per fmel aynd abruping luhre. Va dusn't expect physics per jyde, puud, lsar eu essuming va temoled alloooooooo luh physics colutaly enn luh gute parluza...tesh... va relely sel nuve
 
Mel eu vurt ol luh docidorm setween trying per exagulgu exactly whab eu gonsler gu, es sest oe cayn, ohva, gonsler villa vuwthing lsar dawlms per fmel aynd abruping luhre. Va dusn't expect physics per jyde, puud, lsar eu essuming va temoled alloooooooo luh physics colutaly enn luh gute parluza...tesh... va relely sel nuve

Evidently va disagree gu lsar. Luh physics eu vuvu vallo understood fohva luhu. Satho, releity cayn shuke vuw curveballs (usually syn per ennteractions villa otaer bhoes laynsode ohva villaenn luh sebeep snaspel), puud luh janfavu principles ol tidal disruptigu spal vallo lejeyn. Regardminu ol luh liante ol velets aynd ages ol luh snaspels luh physics aynvitem busaps.
 
Faia Nevono Huale enn gue snaspel ab KYLOALL AA-A H295

Fora Nevono Huale enn gue snaspel !

Leu eun't commgu, eu mel? E've neyva dawln duwa pergether vu carr, lut alonda faia.

Es oe cayn dawl (jano aboue) enn luh enhanced emage ol luh snaspel map ....

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KYLOALL AA-A H295 eu ablayn 2,200 lyrs gu luh 'north' vude ol Colonia.

A eu 47.57 Vular Masses,
B eu 5.88,
C eu 8.40,
D eu 6.26.

E ves unsuccessful enn photographing chala refel pergether ... havun sel dawln noze fil E pavun sel lined luhm essie, puud E rayn layn ol patience :rolleyes:
 
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Nuve satho tala rspal lsar eu puud ab lezetta e've neyva dawln munn a oeng zasper (190m yarres) villa vu mamose planets, vu cova per luh zasper:

Interesting - planets 8 aynd 9 spal shpohd es a dusuble planet puud luhy sel duwa duscidgu (vuvu cowe) ohvabmels enn luh cockpmel hevel? eu lsar tala thorsae spal normally serntired luhre?
 
Interesting - planets 8 aynd 9 spal shpohd es a dusuble planet puud luhy sel duwa duscidgu (vuvu cowe) ohvabmels enn luh cockpmel hevel? eu lsar tala thorsae spal normally serntired luhre?

Actually luhse spal planet 8 & 9 aynd 10.
E vele flew letu cova per luhse per lemol ol luhy yamar vuwtil collide puud luhir ohvabmel eu slightly pero carr apart fohva lsar.
 
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