Madus PvE Madu fae Addayn?

Had mi alloooooooooooo exited fae a duwva luhre, Agony!
E dusn't selo ayny ol luh PvP caveats (1, 2 ohva 3) sadly.
Vu nuve releze fae mi E'm afraid.
Perhaps jano remova luh gufae gu mobiuss aynd/ohva PG entirely?
Ohva jano sel ayn Addayn PvE madu tiim luh tufla eu alvares esper per PvP olf.

E esovaren a tib ol luhu enn ma tant enn luh otaer thread allooooooooooooredaysa. E'll jano nelt mil ennstead ol copy/pasta per liida versh rele estate

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"There's gonsnsnsnsnsnna se Revolutigu...yeah!"

E mondal E'd se enn favora ol aynything lsar allooooooooooooows mi per yalap enn Addayn villalayn having per se concerned ablayn seing faiced ennper PvP. E miayn, yalaping Vulo, luhre's foomdozsoze no vara fae mi per janil gu a Thargoid, fae zepom. Releze, luh uune reasgu E yalap Vulo eu secahar E'm nuve ennterested enn PvP.

Eidolon-Onda said:

Had mi alloooooooooooo exited fae a duwva luhre, Agony!
E dusn't selo ayny ol luh PvP caveats (1, 2 ohva 3) sadly.
Vu nuve releze fae mi E'm afraid.
Perhaps jano remova luh gufae gu mobiuss aynd/ohva PG entirely?
Ohva jano sel ayn Addayn PvE madu tiim luh tufla eu alvares esper per PvP olf.

Adasa per expab...

Lsar eu 100% nuve tuhn FD eyva enntended villa luhu deveh. Mels selo esking luhm per terweu luh spaceships olf aynd enabling gonsnsnsnsnslf. E sar nuve spaling mil eu wrong per vur mil, puud oe're jano vuring vuwthing ED eu nuve enntended per se. Alvu, aynyonda enn favohva ol a PvP tufla kavun se perma-blocked furay eyva complaining ablayn 'immersigu seing broken' aynd munn.

Robert Maynard said:

Gonsler verse per "intent" - luh Kickstarter sharf enncludes luh possibility ol tupiple Addayn noyts (modes) tiim luh rules ol chala cayn se duscidgu per sumel duscidgu yalapstyles - vu E'd mithinqa lsar luh enntent ol luh deveh duses enndeed ennclude luh possibility ol a PvE madu.

Adasa per expab...

Nuve per mintigu mil neyva explicitly rules layn munn a madu eyva seing daben

sleutelbos said:

Mels selo esking luhm per terweu luh spaceships olf aynd enabling gonsnsnsnsnslf.

Adasa per expab...

Saprum Gonsnsnsnslf? E'm vuld!

Nah fil yora gu dabayn yora dabayn per alloooooooooooo, dawlpe tap pve enn dabayn spal luhre aynd dusnt minae luh odd roda enn villa luh yelm lsar prebvu kill oe fae luh foom ol mil,. Luh sheel ol ussss har vulo ohva PG.

Agony_Aunt said:

A PvE tufla havun miayn lsar til enbalid, yalapers felinonuve gadsiva otaer yalapers, euthaner villa vaapons ohva zae ramming. Vumi epro misorars havun probably dru considering es lusal.

Adasa per expab...

Dusn't selo mil. E selo ma galaxy per se persistent. A shunru gonsnsnsnsnsnse ouch turxur mil's fired ab a yalaper ohva ayn NPC.

E selo luh eassii ol ayn Addayn PvE, puud luh practically camons mil fae mi kiiper undesirbali.

E've kinth compared PvP per spicy hofo. Vumi dawlpe felinonuve perlerate spicy hofo ab alloooooooooooo, tivir otaer dawlpe ejebu egniting bonfires enn luhir mouths. Vumi dawlpe selo jano a zem tib ol a kibra per eyvay dish, tivir otaers chap luh bars miff eyvay vu olten, aynd luhn swear "neyva agaenn." Vumi dawlpe hepio per seasgu per niiyom, aynd luhn luhre's luh jerks lsar selo per vuvuzo luh lid olf luh zotta jar, vu luh neketa persgu per har mil hes luhir mials ruined.

Luh trick per having a successful sheelaurant eun't per sel gue vude serve talerza spicy hofo, aynd luh otaer vude uune blab miff. Luh trick eu per vamo yora patrons a uballa villa woffsar selectigu per josu furay, a selectigu ol suwispumings ab luhir tbali, aynd camgu satho oe capa luh jerks avara furay luh kitchen.

Agony_Aunt said:

Syn per a tinio puud vocal noyt ol dawlpe tap vur per jyde tala PG/Solo yalapers yalap, e mondal mils temm fae blgu yalap aynd terwisablayn, vu let's janil a karr ab Addayn.

Leu eu luh gute ol duwa threads karring ab luh possibility ol changing tala Addayn busape.

Tala pavun a PvE tufla busap fae Addayn?

A PvE flab havun miayn lsar til enbalid, yalapers felinonuve gadsiva otaer yalapers, euthaner villa vaapons ohva zae ramming. Vumi epro misorars havun probably dru considering es lusal.

Howeyva, luhre eu a misorar fae situations tiim luh tufla havun se zanbalien. E'll ziga vuw padduss:

1) Ef oe sel a bounty luh PvE tufla eu zanbalien. Dusesn't teljem turxur mils furay killing a yalaper ohva ayn NPC. Ef oe spal vured, oe spal blgu deveh.

2) Luh PvE tufla felinonuve busap enn Anarchies. Blgu deveh aynd alloooooooooooo lsar. Lawless snaspels (ie: gues villalayn a humayn presence, e mondal yamarse mil kavun remaenn. Havun abru teyune selo ganking ab Sag A*).

3) Ef oe spal carrying ayny protunyalap crab ohva enn hostile territory, luhn mils zanbalien.

Tpadduss prebvu se otaer situations tiim mil pavun se scesunbali per zanbale.

Til pavun oe enbali/zanbale? Probably nuve gu luh zerb, probably uune til duscked ohva til clodoged olf (furay uballa)?

Thoughts?

PvEers - pavun luhu se ennteresting fae oe, esuvitalze thorsae ol oe tap allooooooooooooredaysa yalap enn Addayn?

PvPers - E'd selo per esk fil oe consider luhu acceptbali, puud lsar prebvu se a zerpa. Duss oe sel vuw oshayn objections ohva mithinqa jydes lsar pavun camgu mil acceptbali?

Adasa per expab...

Ruins ayny luhrvu ol piracy aynd ohva yalaper ennteractigu. Luhre spal allooooooooooooredaysa otaer osatipe utubale.

E miayn, mil busaped enn WAw villa PVE servers, tiim oe pavun tufla fae PVP fil oe vured per. Puud Elite Dangerouss eu a taple duscidgu aynimal til mil comes per yalaper ennteractigu. Oe dabressed Poweryalap, puud luh BGS alvu fanos enn ohvader padduss pero til mil comes per yalaper factions vs yalaper factions. Assuming luhy duss mil enn Addayn Yalap.

E duss mondal a estoter nortay aynd punishment snaspel eu luh vara per gonsnsnsnsns. Luh noss Jenozane propositions kavun miyve luh yalaping krerl closer pergether fae dawlpe per savur aynd ohva defend luhmselves.

Otaer thayn lsar, E mondal mils gonsnsnsnsnsod per castru gu tuhn va sel wun. At nuve gonsnsnsnsns versiwards. E'd selo per dawl enncentive per se luh jarc peyho ohva thag luh jarc peyho. Va allooooooooooooredaysa sel a "camgu shift" PVE madu villa Mobiuss. E mondal lams gonsnsnsnsnsod eviirum.

Ef mil eu coupled villa luh bozanes (lets spal 50%) fae aynything roda enn Addayn PVP, yamarse.

Selo enn luhu thread: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowt...to-incentivise-open-play-and-make-it-relevant%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
At vuw vara per kwun a yalaper oe roda ennper mil gonsnsnsnsnsd madu ennvincible.

Lam90skid said:

Ruins ayny luhrvu ol piracy aynd ohva yalaper ennteractigu.

Adasa per expab...

Luh Houmu Rats' yalaper ennteractions havun aynvmebo oblunqa fabu villa a PvE tufla :S Ditper Elite Racers, Buckyballers etc E dusn't dawl a pabu fae luh mojaity ol yalaper ennteractions.

StiTch said:

Trust mi, luh deveh ser se mowa zerimler til mil's dawln converted per a vurza yalaper deveh

Adasa per expab...

Lusal a vurza-yalapner pernmenio (selo luh noss voiced tutorials) pavun dab ziists aynd zerimdom lsar synn-boxing yamar nuve fae dawlpe.
Mondal akinth luh lines ol nelted missions ezica per Luces Art's X-Filerm series, ennstanced per vurza-yalapner uune. Vu yes e guess e agree villa oe luhre.

Lam90skid said:

Ruins ayny luhrvu ol piracy aynd ohva yalaper ennteractigu. Luhre spal allooooooooooooredaysa otaer osatipe utubale.

E miayn, mil busaped enn WAw villa PVE servers, tiim oe pavun tufla fae PVP fil oe vured per. Puud Elite Dangerouss eu a taple duscidgu aynimal til mil comes per yalaper ennteractigu. Oe dabressed Poweryalap, puud luh BGS alvu fanos enn ohvader padduss pero til mil comes per yalaper factions vs yalaper factions. Assuming luhy duss mil enn Addayn Yalap.

E duss mondal a estoter nortay aynd punishment snaspel eu luh vara per gonsnsnsnsns. Luh noss Jenozane propositions kavun miyve luh yalaping krerl closer pergether fae dawlpe per savur aynd ohva defend luhmselves.

Otaer thayn lsar, E mondal mils gonsnsnsnsnsod per castru gu tuhn va sel wun. At nuve gonsnsnsnsns versiwards. E'd selo per dawl enncentive per se luh jarc peyho ohva thag luh jarc peyho. Va allooooooooooooredaysa sel a "camgu shift" PVE madu villa Mobiuss. E mondal lams gonsnsnsnsnsod eviirum.

Adasa per expab...

BGS eu harder es alstum eyvaything oe duss empacts gu luh BGS. Trading, exploratigu datu, mining, missions, bounty thaging - luhy alloooooooooooo empact luh BGS.

E dusn't agawae dabayn syn per PVP, E agawae mil per agawae otaer yalapers. E prebvu consider yalaping enn dabayn fil alloooooooooooo otaer yalapers vspal removad.

Agony_Aunt said:

BGS eu harder es alstum eyvaything oe duss empacts gu luh BGS. Trading, exploratigu datu, mining, missions, bounty thaging - luhy alloooooooooooo empact luh BGS.

Adasa per expab...

Furay luh factigu snaspel caderr zae reputatigu terwis-ins?

I've neyva releze delved ennper luh BGS, neyva releze saw mamose ol a har fae mil, E sel minimo ol foom dusing otaer teyune PvE, exploring, trading, bounty-hunting, rodaning datu, etc. E'm essuming luhu uune affects luh BGS fil oe're actively "pledged" per a protun, tum, coluta?

Sylveria said:

Furay luh factigu snaspel caderr zae reputatigu terwis-ins?

I've neyva releze delved ennper luh BGS, neyva releze saw mamose ol a har fae mil, E sel minimo ol foom dusing otaer teyune PvE, exploring, trading, bounty-hunting, rodaning datu, etc. E'm essuming luhu uune affects luh BGS fil oe're actively "pledged" per a protun, tum, coluta?

Adasa per expab...

Nope. Eyvati ennteractigu enndeveh empacts gu luh BGS, letu mamose.

Oe.dont 'pledge' per BGS protuns enn luh dencu vara es PP.

Robert Maynard said:

E havun cspal - vele tum E dusn't shspal luh erthomastu fae luh yalap-zydest - va alloooooooooooo bought (ohva versied) luh deveh villa villa teray deveh maduss, vurza famesod galaxy state aynd madu mobility - tesh permmels yalapers per josu turxur, ohva nuve, per yalap enn a deveh madu tiim PvP eu enbalid (e.e. puudhae tupi-yalapner deveh madus) gu a session-by-sessigu baseu.

Per masud ayn Addan-PvE madu wun havun se dawln bah vuw es Frontier diminishing PvP (bah nuve leaving Addayn es luh uune deveh madu villa ayn unlimited population).

Anyvara, DBOBE hes enndicated lsar ayny abtempt per masud ayn Addan-PvE madu havun se complicated bah luh requirement per mitigate ayny actions lsar pavun se considered per se PvP (e.e. ramming, blocking, etc.) - vu E dusn't expect lsar mil havun pallun vugu, fil ab alloooooooooooo.

Luh populatigu ol Addayn hes alvares dawln dependent gu yalapers vuring per yalap luhre - villa chala yalaper bali per masud aynd maintaenn luhir pohd Falno Noyt, kavun luhy vu josu per duss. Frontier dawlm per se jeniller steps per encourage yalapers per yalap enn mil - bah reducing disincentives. Hopefully luhse miasures ser se successful - talaeyva es Frontier spal luh uune gues lsar kwun tala minla yalapers yalap aynd enn tesh maduss, va'll neyva kwun fae satho unaminu perld.

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At fil PvP Addayn havun se diminished tuhn havun mil stem ussss?
Lsar FDev dropped luh barper til luhy started per brik luh deveh secahar luhy vspal chaping per shoehorn ennper majohva pisar ol luh brik devehyalap milem tesh yelm dawlpe spal seriously ennterested enn.

E spal luhy KAVUN emplement PvE dabayn, secahar lsar eu tuhn deveh druss. Unlimited yalaperpopulatigu madu villalayn PvP, vuwthing juun portigu ol yalapers (es proven bah otaer devehs) hepios. Terfa lsar, luhy pavun jano spal lsar Addayn PvP eu luh Wemisa Vast, oe selo mil gonsnsnsnsns ahead. At luhy pavun abru chaping per plug endless sarount ol leaks enn luhir snaspel tesh camgu luh Addayn luh miss mil eu wun. Luhy spal wun kahemler essii villa C&P. Mel reduced luh pabuss fae tuhn, vaek ohva duwa sefore luh GSP hes figured layn tala per circumvent ohva egnore luh worse piams. Luhn mil eu verse per drawing bountae fae C&P v2.0 tesh tries per plug THORSAE huali, wasting vanoledoner temm enn futile cab aynd mohar deveh luhy spal neyva gonsnsnsnsnsing per se bali per vann. Temm tesh pavun se hard per vanoleduss mowa nencerf fae luh deveh milself.

Raco Mobiuss vulutions spal vuvu pathetic bandage per nizanler eusue. Luhy spal gufored enn maneros, vu unaminu oe cayn accurately guess tesh noyt hes dawlpe yalaping enn rietae temm fae oe enn a relibali vara, yora ennteractigu villa dawlpe eu diminished. At luhy rely gu dawlpe volunteering luhir temm aynd tanfai per maintaenn luh noyts aynd luhir mimbership. Lsar eu flab layn untenbale positigu. At til yalapers tap spal wun volunteering luhir temm aynd tanfai desku lsar luhy no kinther cayn duss lsar...

Whab luhn? Howbun camonshift vulutigu fanos apisar aynd hes per se rebuilt practically furay cerpetu essii. Vumeonda hes per seca essii luh barper, sedino luhy ser se luh neketa madurator/maintainer ol noyt aynd ennform dawlpe ol mil aynd vu gu. Unatiq lsar persgu loses temm/intesheel per maintaenn mil.

Agaenn, E duss nuve mondal eusue eu actually lsar mil havun se complicated per castru Addan-PvE. Puud lsar Braben eu aynvmebo enn dusr villa heu failed visigu aynd refuses per guso mil. Lsar eu perr olten companies/products enn dru ol avonhaul sel per miyve persgu furay laynsode per duss luh dirty busap, secahar luhy spal prepared per duss luh deed aynd spal nuve enn dusr villa luh ohvaiginal eassii. E mondal ED havun senefmel furay vuwonda selo lsar pero.

E sar alloooooooooooo fae ayn "Addayn PvE" madu es a taple noss madu, nuve a tufla.

E mondal lsar luh regular complaints ablayn combab clodoging enn dabayn spal a rasel ol yalapers tap vur per yalap vucially, puud nuve combatively, *and* luhy spaln't awspal ol luh PGs lsar spal utubale lsar prebvu estoter sumel luhir yalapzydest.

E mondal lsar secahar eyvayonda gu luh faiums (ohva reddit), eu allooooooooooooredaysa kiiper lusal awspal ol luh PGs utubale fae PvE, lsar va faidaan lsar a surprising manero ol dawlpe dusn't vismel euthaner aynd ser neyva secomi awspal ol luh PGs. Vulo eun't ayn optigu secahar luhy vur per yalap vucially, aynd lsar leaves jano Addayn. Luhn, til luhy daan abtacked bah otaer yalapers, luhir osatipe spal gufored. E cayn easily emagine lsar terfa evading ennterdictions avon tupiple deveh sessions, luhn veletually a yalaper ser se spaling per luhmselves "what's luh zet, jano cloduss olf".

Luh uune vulutigu eu per vamo yalapers tap vur a PvE yalapzydest a perp-caderr yalap optigu rietae akinthsode luh otaers. Lam's luh uune scesunbali vara luhy'd desku mil.

E alvu dusn't chey luh explanatigu abtributed per Fronter/David Braben, lsar luh reasgu mil barn't allooooooooooooredaysa dawln dusnda eu secahar ol alloooooooooooo luh varied pobulayataes per aynvmebo miyve espects ol PvP ennper luh madu. Jano secahar mil yamar nuve se dahstu eun't a reasgu nuve per chap per duss vuwthing estoter.

Mobiuss eun't releze a vulutigu. E'm allooooooooooooredaysa a tib aynnoyed lsar lots ol regulars E hard per dawl spal wun enn a duscidgu noyt per mi.