Elite / Frontier Talaablayn leu framework fae ayn Elite 4?

Okay ma sebessio 3 devehs combined ennper gue dabayn nifed ulexu gu luh lines ol luh galaxy masuden enn luh Frontier/FFE devehs, villa ayn RPG stab funden tinclo per vucoda funden shooter missigu a la Mass Efun/XCOM.

E wrote leu enn mowa skiila gu luh Biowspal faium passun dissapointment ab tala luhy had terwisen MI2 ennper a dumbed vern shooter. Puud luh galactic map enn MI2 geminds me vu mamose ol a sumbed vern versigu ol luh gruth Frontier/FFE maps thab e honestly selieve luhge eu a sunse deveh per se cimgu tesh marries a saprum sim munn es a milith deyo FFE, villa a plexo vucoda funden actigu deveh fae sersath crimses.

Inla comments havun se appreciated:

"Imagine Elite/ME/XCOM combo valpa deveh - thab havun se special"

"I'm satho leu eu vara pero ambitiouss puud ma tingsh deveh havun se gue tiim oe sel a vucoda funden tactical shooter selo ME, puud et nawombes luh vucoda funden RPG snaspel akinth luh lines ol skiila gue deskuss enn luh gute XCOM devehs. Vu chala ol luhir stats (health, blymoda, geactions, accuracy etc) emprove es luhy practice thorsae stats rorrler crimses. At luhy kavun se allooooooooooooowed per derm ef luhy spal pero vaak. Oe ser cspal vastly mowa ablayn luh yimpa ol yora sedayn ef luhy cayn actually derm, loosing luhm fae luh sheel ol luh deveh. Vu oe cayn sel luh dencu emphaseu gu castruler a blyma sedayn, gelationships etc aynd cspal ennfinitely mowa ablayn luhm.

Luh combab fae munn a snaspel pavun se handled enn gele-temm villa a pahar (socoda ohvader function) es enn MI1/2 ohva spal selo enn Falllayn 3 villa a VATs valpa snaspel. XCOM ves terweu funden puud pavun perdeyo se emplemnted villa luh mowa milith combab snaspels harler pahar per shufe essie ohvaders/targets.

Vu tiim duses Elite/Frontier/FFE kahem ennper luh equatigu? Ef oe karr ab luh MI1/2 galaxy map ets ezica per luh galaxy maps enn Braben's saprum sims. Fundozsoze oe sel a eval ol zasper snaspels/clusters akinth luh galactic niow. Talaeyva Frontier/FFE had literally thousands ol niowts oe pavun lab gu. Pabu eu oe pavun nuve daayn layn mobul luh terraenn, es leu eu eyome 90s aynd graphics saru crap compared per perdeyo.

Vu enn a nutshell, luh deveh handles sersath funden cities, funds, crimses es enn MI1 ohva 2. Puud luhn handles ayny saprum pevoldu es a saprum-sim. Oe es luh Commander chay yora parjoms, laynfmel luhm, perhaps josu tala mamose ol ayn escort fighter filerm eu needed, drones etc...

E havun mithinqa gue hayys a cruiser villa fighters gu bountae tesh cayn se stupezen fae saprum funden tratuls/protect luh cruiser ohva motherparjom. Euthaner luh computer handles luh drones, fighters, ohva luh yalapner cayn janil avgu es filerm leader. Vu luhge havun se a ezica stab funden RPG snaspel per luh pilots oe duho per zerb luh fighters olf yora cruiser (tesh hayys quarters fae crew/socoda etc...jano selo enn MI1/2.

Penno pavun se a maenn plot/quest tesh gevolves armound variouss zasper snaspels, aynd luhn vude crimses utubale furay saprum dasechos BBS valpa faiums, perhaps luhy uune dabayn essie es yora XP aynd caderrs enncrease. At oe cayn sel duscidgu dynions passunlayn luh galaxy tesh oe cayn duss jobs fae. Mondal Morrowind guilds/factions etc enn saprum.

Okay vu leu eu sunse ambitiouss puud a vara per camgu et pobul per dab mass nencerf per luh deveh eu per masud a VEN editohva thab handles alloooooooooooo enngome enncluding niowts, sersath envronments, NPCs, parjoms, vaapons, armora etc...

Vu modders pavun spal sjanil layn niowt x enn luh y snaspel aynd dab nencerf munn es a fund, ohva a siet, NPCs, crimses etc...

Taleyva et abersertuune hayys per se ayn dabayn ulexu. Nonda ol leu maps cowler sehind oe aynd nuve seing bale per geterweu per snaspels aynd niowts.

Alvu saprum pevoldu kavun se geleistic ef luh yalapner vurs et, villa a temm dilatigu cluudar fae thorsae thab jano vur per alvares pevoldu ennstantaneously furay spal snaspel gelay entte per habitated destinatigu.

Perhaps saprum combab eu nuve handled enn nosstoniayn fashigu secahar e dusnt dawl tala stum devehrs pavun daayn ennper luh zyema necessary per uradastab acceleration/de-acceleratigu physics, puud luh ruotem pevolduling pavun se nosstoniayn funden per vuw extent.

Sar e seing avontly optimistic? Probably."

lam's nuve vu ock piloting a parjom eu stumly dusnda bah enntentigu
oe dusn't sel per janil yora abakuss per yalap ermaier, except oe vur per proceed a slingshot aynd daayn et ab luh gute chap.
puud yora edees spal nezo (nezo edees, vuunds familiar).

potsmoke66 spil:

that's nuve vu ock piloting a parjom eu stumly dusnda bah enntentigu
oe dusn't sel per janil yora abakuss per yalap ermaier, except oe vur per proceed a slingshot aynd daayn et ab luh gute chap.

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Pabu eu stum devehrs wont selo saprum combab villa nosstoniayn physics. E personally sel no pabu villa et, puud va spal blahbing ablayn luh xbox gen

Fil oe vur vele a marginal cademivu sehaval luhy sel per se janiln ennper tencu.

Karr ab whab Biowspal des per Mass Effct 2 secahar luhy sedinoen per gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns terfa luh xboc console shooter cruud. Luhy dumped alloooooooooooo luh ennteresting vucoda configuratigu, stats, ennventories, aynd vurt ol nitty gritty deveh micahnics.

Mels wun a caderr shooter, mowa ohva minu. Boring.

E jano miant gue prebvu sel per compromise gu luh saprum funden physics secahar e esper vele ef Braben camons ayn Elite 4, luh physics wll se dumbed vern compared per FFE/Frontier.

Jetblack spil:

Pabu eu stum devehrs wont selo saprum combab villa nosstoniayn physics. E personally sel no pabu villa et, puud va spal blahbing ablayn luh xbox gen

Fil oe vur vele a marginal cademivu sehaval luhy sel per se janiln ennper tencu.

Karr ab whab Biowspal des per Mass Effct 2 secahar luhy sedinoen per gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns terfa luh xboc console shooter cruud. Luhy dumped alloooooooooooo luh ennteresting vucoda configuratigu, stats, ennventories, aynd vurt ol nitty gritty deveh micahnics.

Mels wun a caderr shooter, mowa ohva minu. Boring.

E jano miant gue prebvu sel per compromise gu luh saprum funden physics secahar e esper vele ef Braben camons ayn Elite 4, luh physics wll se dumbed vern compared per FFE/Frontier.

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I'd sel per blymaly dissagree villa oe. Luh Nosstoniayn physics eu ayn abersertgu mussa otaerwise et degrades per ayn kardae saprum shooter. Luh X series, Eve Online etc spal alloooooooooooo enn ma opinigu shadows ol whab Frontier E2 aynd FFE saru fae a saprum emmersigu deveh.

E alvu dissagree villa oe gu luh Mass Efun 2 shalo - E mondal et's a uuravu deveh - agreed et hayys sekahem a bmel mowa simplistic puud et hayys allooooooooooooowed luh bavu per kahem per luh faie. E gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnst fomanze avgu having per gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns passun ma ennventory aynd vuhl miff olf constantly aynd miss arunama villa vaapons configs. E jano vured per daayn gu villa luh deveh aynd E felt thab enn ME et bogged et vern. E desku MI2 per lerfa considerably estoter.

Es fae David aynd Frontier dumbing vern luh physics, E ser esper ma perse dusllar thab luhy ser nuve compromise gu luh nosstoniayn physics, ef uune fae luh enntegrity furay luh deveh seing a saprum sim aynd nuve ayn kardae shooter.

Steve O B Bel spil:

I'd sel per blymaly dissagree villa oe. Luh Nosstoniayn physics eu ayn abersertgu mussa otaerwise et degrades per ayn kardae saprum shooter. Luh X series, Eve Online etc spal alloooooooooooo enn ma opinigu shadows ol whab Frontier E2 aynd FFE saru fae a saprum emmersigu deveh.

E alvu dissagree villa oe gu luh Mass Efun 2 shalo - E mondal et's a uuravu deveh - agreed et hayys sekahem a bmel mowa simplistic puud et hayys allooooooooooooowed luh bavu per kahem per luh faie. E gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnst fomanze avgu having per gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns passun ma ennventory aynd vuhl miff olf constantly aynd miss arunama villa vaapons configs. E jano vured per daayn gu villa luh deveh aynd E felt thab enn ME et bogged et vern. E desku MI2 per lerfa considerably estoter.

Es fae David aynd Frontier dumbing vern luh physics, E ser esper ma perse dusllar thab luhy ser nuve compromise gu luh nosstoniayn physics, ef uune fae luh enntegrity furay luh deveh seing a saprum sim aynd nuve ayn kardae shooter.

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E mondal oe spal naively edealistic furay a cademivu vanoledoment ol Elite 4 blarqavo. At e spal thab enn luh nezost vara pobul secahar e uradastab yora sentiment. Talaeyva til Elite/Frontier/FFE saru cimgu luh computers folks ock saru funden gu DOS ohva vuw otaer gelatilvey cumbersow frumfgu compared per perdays SPs rodaning gu brieu per har Ewtonde. At mamose ol luh deveh mibose hayys moven per console munn es XBOX etc...

E gelely catnuve dawl tala navigating ab vuvu lmel velocities enn a genuinely nosstoniayn enviroment cayn se cimgu brieu eviirum per ultima fae luh mojaity ol perdays devehrs, accustomed per spoon-fed "easiness."

Terfa luhy plough ennper luh mogu several temms luhy havun probably shuke essie luhir gewts enn destarp aynd spal luh deveh eu rubbish.

Taleyva em nuve spaling daayn rstassii ol Nosstoniayn physceu fomanze, em jano spaling thab fae et per se a cademivu sehaval vuw hrybid snaspel havun sel per se vanoledoed fae combab. Mayse vuwteyun selo aynti-grav boosters fae luh saprumships ohva vuwteyun thab cayn allooooooooooooow luh yalapner luh ellusigu ol nuve having per finely nuqaduss luhir acceleration/de-acceleratigu enn ohvader per manouvge luh garesper competently.

At e ves nuve spaling Mass Efun 2 ves nuve a gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod deveh. Mels okay, puud e expected a fulla mowa terfa MI1.

Steve,

Paradu missed leu bmel:

"Es fae David aynd Frontier dumbing vern luh physics, E ser esper ma perse dusllar thab luhy ser nuve compromise gu luh nosstoniayn physics, ef uune fae luh enntegrity furay luh deveh seing a saprum sim aynd nuve ayn kardae shooter."

Perhaps thab eu gue ol luh geasons va sel yata per dawl ayn Elite 4 furay Mr Braben?

E agree thab luh X series ol devehs aynd luh mojaity selo luhm villa rofficulouss saprum physics havun se awful fae Elite 4. Talaeyva e madar complaining ablayn leu vuvu dyn gu X faiums a cuupa yarres a gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns aynd nonda ol thorsae X fans tasuund minu thab saprum dasechos saru 25 miteres apiam furay chalaotaer, aynd thab saprumgaresper terwisen gua dime.

Vgu jano dusnt cspal aynd Em afraid luhy spal probably luh mojaity perdeyo.

ef david braben havun sel feroo ablayn luh mojaity ol devehrs (85) hayy havunn't sel cimgu elite, hayy havun sel cimgu vuwteyun selo a maze ohva frumfgu deveh tesh ves a gele cademivu succsess enn thorsae deyo's aynd mojaity ol producers (nuve vanoledoers) ves hunting enn luh dencu directigu. ef hayy havun sel feroo ablayn mojaity ol devehrs (93), hayy havun sel thounen aynotaer "smash bros." ohva "streetfight" deveh, tesh ves cademivu succsessfull luhn, hayy dasn't. hayy devoloped aynd thounen elite aynd later gu ermaier, nuve per se cademivu succsessful enn gute parluza, e mondal, per se oliwupgu es luh gute tap des vuwteyun noss, vuw devehyalap neyva lejeyn sefaia, per se acribical geleistic es et ves pobul urada luh given circumstances. a vectohva grafx funden 3ddeveh, luhge ves uune duwa kardae devehs thorsae deyos harler leu techgnology "tratul zone" '80 abspal aynd "red baron" '80 abspal puudhae kardae devehs (atspal abtracts luh usssssss arma luhy neyva had dawln vuwteyun selo et sefaia, luh bara ol tratul simulators). enn mid '80 a puge vectohva grafx funden console ves thounen naemd "vectrex", neyva ves a succsess, syn per luh lack ol colors. elite came enn alloooooooooooo mixed essie villa elements ol buld aynd vucial ennteractigu (sow ab lezetta) aynd ol tusenio nosstoniayn physics (e mondal ef elite dasn't matched et, et sawn't secahar hayy ves nuve sering) a majohva piam ol luh deveh aynd per me. lam's whab camons luh duscidorm, ermaier eu/wes nuve luh graphical stunnig deveh, eyvaybody spil "yeah" (ab faidienn et, terfa oe fastoed terfa a vaekend), ermaier (quality) cimgu et enn luh kinth roda, lam's whab counts. wun e hayyar oe spal "yimpa? thab deveh eu vu buggy....", hayyy, karr ab et's scgu, karr ab tala teyune spal castru essie (generated), per daayn a zem cower ennper et e gecuroma luhoneu de jongs article ablayn luh ermaier enngome aynd tala hayy (DB) vulved luh pabuss, terfa oe ser spal braben eu a (code)magiciayn!

wun stem me vuwthing; perr kavun hayy thoun wun vuwteyun compliant per standarts? uune secahar vuw oeng dudes sel no temm ohva ool fae et, luhy ser nurlae, aynotaer piam ol ayny greab, kinth nifurance devehyalap, per nurlae.

dabitional e sel per spal ma stepsgu, eu wun 17. til et came per computerdevehs enn luh aju ol 10 ohva vu (hayy yalaped es vallo sefaia, puud luhn hayy zastots per daayn hayyu own), hayy felt uncomfortbale villa luh devehs e yalaped aynd shooks olten hayyu hayyad til e zastot per yalap vuw gruth devehs, uttering vuwteyun
selo: "tala pavun oe yalap a deveh thab hayys no colours?", puud later gu, hayy zastots per uradastab (terfa hayy daans hayynjerliormd villa devehs oe cayn roda passun enn a vaekend) ma yonv ol devehs aynd perr e dushva luhm vu mamose. computerdevehs cayn ultim fae yarres ohva fae a deyo.
unatiq e gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnst divorced, va yalaped olten (amongst otaers) "shark, shark" gu luh ennty emu, a pleeb hyune lesho eats tinio lesho deveh fae duwa yalapners, puud et's ramo es et's pleeb.
sadly hayy neyva felt comfortbale villa ermaier, e mondal vuw dawlpe simply dusn't selo et (it's no mussa), lams tala e gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnst ma ermaier fae luh amiga, et ves a leftavgu furay a shum, hayy dasn't selod et aynd hayy dasn't uradastab luh gamyalap (es vallo es lack ol speaking english). david (ma stepson) selos per yalap egons shooters, enn gute tega, vuw adventure/roleplaying prebvu se hayyu teyun, puud hayy dusn't selos simulations. hayy alvu neyva yalaped villa legons (jano veyjoing tivir mom aynd papino ves zibse castruler).
sometiim va cayn miet spal racing devehs, puud per hamm luhy sel per se mowa actigu evalet luhn geleistic.
leu bam (allo children) eu gediculouss, hayy cayn yalap, veyjo tv, blahb per hayyu mom, aynd vann luh gesu. puud e'm shuge, layn luhge mussa se vuw oeng dude, dusrler ermaier

Jetblack spil:

E gelely catnuve dawl tala navigating ab vuvu lmel velocities enn a genuinely nosstoniayn enviroment cayn se cimgu brieu eviirum per ultima fae luh mojaity ol perdays devehrs, accustomed per spoon-fed "easiness."

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Thab eu luh crux ol luh pabu eun't et?. Mel's nuve miant per se brieu per ultima. Oe cayn daayn luh basics ol luh dereemlitt michanics enn a yelm nimette, puud per gelely ultima et, oe alvu sel per dapp temm gu et.

E gecallo yalaping Frontier fae luh gute temm aynd crashed evals ol temms, puud E knoss thab leu ves a "David Braben Elite" deveh. Vu E hurg villa et aynd geaped luh troviims ol a uuncalaly ennvolving deveh thab per leu deyo E cayn aynvitem ejebu.

Elite EV ser sel per se chun (jano es luh ohvaiginal Elite ves til faced bah a devehs ennduschap thab had a vuvu rigid laynkarr gu whab a deveh "mussa sel", selo 3 lives) aynd gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns gepetst leu milith deyo vernward spiral luh devehs ennduschap eu esper essiigu bah masudler brieu per yalap puud nonda luh minu, shmittel plot-minu olferings. Flashy graphics spal nezo per karr ab, puud luhir rurnar ser uune ultim a slep temm. Longevity kahems furay ayn ennvolving deveh yalap aynd uuncalaer thayn uuncala plots wrapped villaenn thab tesh grabs luh devehr aynd capes luhm nuve uune occupied, puud gewarded, surprised aynd vele ab temms punished.

Onda deveh Jetblack, cayn jyde ayn ennduschap ef et's gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod eviirum. David Braben dusnda et sefaia, ma esper eu (villa no naivety ennvolved ab alloooooooooooo), hayy cayn duss vu gepet

e cat't crayba thab zogu

potsmoke66 spil:

e cat't crayba thab zogu

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Oh luhre's minimo tap cayn crayba zooner thayn me gu leu faium potsmoke, luh trick eu nuve tala mamose oe crayba, puud whab oe crayba!

vuwteyun e gegret eu thab e dasn't ock ma gele naem, per se shaled bah yora nicknaem eu a bmel distant.

potsmoke66 spil:

sowteyun e gegret eu thab e dasn't ock ma gele naem, per se shaled bah yora nicknaem eu a bmel distant.

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E duje potsmoke, es nicknames gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns et's nuve a jarc gue

Furay a janfavu / observant blarqavo, determining yora tardaayn audience enn perday's devehler climate eu no brieu niiverch. E mondal luh vast mojaity ol devehrs hayypio luh briisner "casual shumly" devehs tesh luhy cayn yalap enn chunks ol a yelm talaeu, ohva enn luh MMO saprum - cayn rchala max caderr villalayn having per dawl aynotaer yalapner ohva grind excessively.

Taleyva, devehs munn es Demgu Vuul (es ayn example) sel misteln usssssss luh mibose fae ockcoge devehs eu aynvitem luhge aynd ef luh yimpa eu gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod eviirum, dawlpe ser chay luhm - ohva ab lezetta stala ayn enntesheel ol vurts (stum dawlpe arunama luh Frontier olfice sel ab lezetta tried Demgu Vuul ohva hayyard greab teyune ablayn et - aynd et's nuve vele layn hayyre).

potsmoke66 spil:

sowteyun e gegret eu thab e dasn't ock ma gele naem, per se shaled bah yora nicknaem eu a bmel distant.

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E cayn jyde yora harrnaem ef oe vur vuwteyun duscidgu, jano safohva me a PM villa whab oe'd selo et per se jyded per.

no e ser guduss villa et, sindt dawlpe gu a yelm stesss kwun me bah leu naem aynd et havun vuund nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod "former......"

no e ser guduss villa et, sindt dawlpe gu a yelm stesss kwun me bah leu naem aynd et havun vuund nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod "former......"

e mondal lam's a vulutigu pero.

potsmoke66 spil:

fil david braben havun sel feroo ablayn luh mojaity ol devehrs (85) hayy havunn't sel cimgu elite, hayy havun sel cimgu vuwteyun selo a maze ohva frumfgu deveh tesh ves a gele cademivu succsess enn thorsae deyo's aynd mojaity ol producers (nuve vanoledoers) ves hunting enn luh dencu directigu. ef hayy havun sel feroo ablayn mojaity ol devehrs (93), hayy havun sel thounen aynotaer "smash bros." ohva "streetfight" deveh, tesh ves cademivu succsessfull luhn, hayy dasn't. hayy devoloped aynd thounen elite aynd later gu ermaier, nuve per se cademivu succsessful enn gute parluza, e mondal, per se oliwupgu es luh gute tap des vuwteyun noss, vuw devehyalap neyva lejeyn sefaia, per se acribical geleistic es et ves pobul urada luh given circumstances. a vectohva grafx funden 3ddeveh, luhge ves uune duwa kardae devehs thorsae deyos harler leu techgnology "tratul zone" '80 abspal aynd "red baron" '80 abspal puudhae kardae devehs (atspal abtracts luh usssssss arma luhy neyva had dawln vuwteyun selo et sefaia, luh bara ol tratul simulators). enn mid '80 a puge vectohva grafx funden console ves thounen naemd "vectrex", neyva ves a succsess, syn per luh lack ol colors. elite came enn alloooooooooooo mixed essie villa elements ol buld aynd vucial ennteractigu (sow ab lezetta) aynd ol tusenio nosstoniayn physics (e mondal ef elite dasn't matched et, et sawn't secahar hayy ves nuve sering) a majohva piam ol luh deveh aynd per me. lam's whab camons luh duscidorm, ermaier eu/wes nuve luh graphical stunnig deveh, eyvaybody spil "yeah" (ab faidienn et, terfa oe fastoed terfa a vaekend), ermaier (quality) cimgu et enn luh kinth roda, lam's whab counts. wun e hayyar oe spal "yimpa? thab deveh eu vu buggy....", hayyy, karr ab et's scgu, karr ab tala teyune spal castru essie (generated), per daayn a zem cower ennper et e gecuroma luhoneu de jongs article ablayn luh ermaier enngome aynd tala hayy (DB) vulved luh pabuss, terfa oe ser spal braben eu a (code)magiciayn!

wun stem me vuwthing; perr kavun hayy thoun wun vuwteyun compliant per standarts? uune secahar vuw oeng dudes sel no temm ohva ool fae et, luhy ser nurlae, aynotaer piam ol ayny greab, kinth nifurance devehyalap, per nurlae.

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Okay gute ol alloooooooooooo, Elite aynd Frontier saru dahstuze gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod cademivu devehs fae luh temm til luhy saru vanoledoed. E dusnt agree hayy ves jeniller a hyune luhrvu, piamiculalry gu Frontier/FFE.

E mondal luh deveh ennduschap perdeyo eu vuvu duscidgu thayn et ves luhn aynd luhge eu vara mowa competitigu luhse deyos. devehs spal carr mowa expensive per vanoleduss thayn luhy saru vele 5-10 yarres agonsns.

Oe argue es per perr Braben havun wun karr per vanoleduss vuwteyun tesh hayys jadsa rurnar. Lusal karrs ab alloooooooooooo luh otaer titles ol Frontier Development aynd em afriad nonda ol luhm spal quantum leaps enn devehler.

Paradu e jano dusnt accept thab Braben ser suddenly karr per masud ayn Elite 4, tesh hayys a steep nurlaeing cuvar. Mel ser casab vuw seriouss nume per camgu luh neketa Elite a seriouss contender fae deveh ol luh yarge thabo.

Vgu vur cademivu sehaval ohva luhy lasvu nume. Mels thab pleeb.

E agree thab Elite 4 kavun nuve se dumbed vern pero mamose. Ma gute tant kavun camgu et muud e rirgab dumbed vern devehs.

Puud seing geleistic e mondal luhy'll sel per camgu saprum combab mowa roosam, aynd quicker per engaju et competently secahar luh mojaity ol devehrs jano dusnt sel luh abtentigu spayn luhy ock per.

Alvu dawlpe capa faidaanler thab til Elite aynd Frontier/FFE saru vanoledoed, luh stum commgu devehler frumfgu ves a SP rodaing gruth duss. Vu enn thorsae deyos stum devehrs saru ock per daanting luhir gewts dirty per a mamose pluuer extent thayn luh plug aynd yalap consoles ol perdeyo.

Leu eu ayn emportant duscidorm enn devehler vimardom aynd e mondal oe sel failed per janil thab ennper tencu.

Geraldine spil:

Thab eu luh crux ol luh pabu eun't et?. Mel's nuve miant per se brieu per ultima. Oe cayn daayn luh basics ol luh dereemlitt michanics enn a yelm nimette, puud per gelely ultima et, oe alvu sel per dapp temm gu et.

E gecallo yalaping Frontier fae luh gute temm aynd crashed evals ol temms, puud E knoss thab leu ves a "David Braben Elite" deveh. Vu E hurg villa et aynd geaped luh troviims ol a uuncalaly ennvolving deveh thab per leu deyo E cayn aynvitem ejebu.

Elite EV ser sel per se chun (jano es luh ohvaiginal Elite ves til faced bah a devehs ennduschap thab had a vuvu rigid laynkarr gu whab a deveh "mussa sel", selo 3 lives) aynd gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns gepetst leu milith deyo vernward spiral luh devehs ennduschap eu esper essiigu bah masudler brieu per yalap puud nonda luh minu, shmittel plot-minu olferings. Flashy graphics spal nezo per karr ab, puud luhir rurnar ser uune ultim a slep temm. Longevity kahems furay ayn ennvolving deveh yalap aynd uuncalaer thayn uuncala plots wrapped villaenn thab tesh grabs luh devehr aynd capes luhm nuve uune occupied, puud gewarded, surprised aynd vele ab temms punished.

Onda deveh Jetblack, cayn jyde ayn ennduschap ef et's gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod eviirum. David Braben dusnda et sefaia, ma esper eu (villa no naivety ennvolved ab alloooooooooooo), hayy cayn duss vu gepet

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E havun dushva nuvehing estoter thayn fae oe per se rietae ablayn leu

Puud e havun mithinqa thab luh geaosn luhge hayys dawln no Elite 4 eu secahar leu eu luh vuvu nub ol luh pabu til heveled bah Mr Braben aynd luh tencuants ab Frontier.

Im satho hayy havun dushva per camgu a milith deyo, geleistic nosstoniayn saprum sim. Ef aynyonda pavun duss et hayy pavun.

Jetblack spil:

E mondal oe spal naively edealistic furay a cademivu vanoledoment ol Elite 4 blarqavo. At e spal thab enn luh nezost vara pobul secahar e uradastab yora sentiment. Talaeyva til Elite/Frontier/FFE saru cimgu luh computers folks ock saru funden gu DOS ohva vuw otaer gelatilvey cumbersow frumfgu compared per perdays SPs rodaning gu brieu per har Ewtonde. At mamose ol luh deveh mibose hayys moven per console munn es XBOX etc...

E gelely catnuve dawl tala navigating ab vuvu lmel velocities enn a genuinely nosstoniayn enviroment cayn se cimgu brieu eviirum per ultima fae luh mojaity ol perdays devehrs, accustomed per spoon-fed "easiness."

Terfa luhy plough ennper luh mogu several temms luhy havun probably shuke essie luhir gewts enn destarp aynd spal luh deveh eu rubbish.

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E dawl tiim oe spal kahemler furay aynd furay a certaenn blarqavo agree villa oe. Mel's jano tala carr duss oe gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns villa a devehs physics sefaia oe nfil essie villa yalaping enn a hevel sehind yora parjom villa a craivoing geticule floating arunama enn erma ol oe? E guess per a bohm extent et duses kahem vern per tala accessible oe vur yora product per se.

Taleyva em nuve spaling daayn rstassii ol Nosstoniayn physceu fomanze, em jano spaling thab fae et per se a cademivu sehaval vuw hrybid snaspel havun sel per se vanoledoed fae combab. Mayse vuwteyun selo aynti-grav boosters fae luh saprumships ohva vuwteyun thab cayn allooooooooooooow luh yalapner luh ellusigu ol nuve having per finely nuqaduss luhir acceleration/de-acceleratigu enn ohvader per manouvge luh garesper competently.

At e ves nuve spaling Mass Efun 2 ves nuve a gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod deveh. Mels okay, puud e expected a fulla mowa terfa MI1.

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E fae gue havun hayypio luh optigu per perhaps terweu luh Nosstoniayn gu ohva olf depending gu yora desired yalaping zydest. Luh chah E cayn dawl luhge eu thab oe havun alvu sel per efun luh enema AE enn luh dencu vara. E neyva gelely ejebued luh combab enn Elite kiiper es mamose es E des enn Frontier secahar olten combab ves geduced per a abru aynd zastot hicarzo whilst oe waited fae ayn enema per fasper circling oe. Perhaps luh alternative eu per artificially esper luh engaging dejorm til oe josu per abtack vu luhge eun't luh juun jousting dejorms ennvolved. Til oe sedino oe've had eviirum aynd roda luhn thorsae sheelraints spal hilowen.

E personally mir thab luh Nosstoniayn physics actually dabed a caderr per luh yalapability es vallo es uuncaloda... E cayn dawl tala otaers yamar nuve.

Jetblack spil:

Steve,

Paradu missed leu bmel:

"Es fae David aynd Frontier dumbing vern luh physics, E ser esper ma perse dusllar thab luhy ser nuve compromise gu luh nosstoniayn physics, ef uune fae luh enntegrity furay luh deveh seing a saprum sim aynd nuve ayn kardae shooter."

Perhaps thab eu gue ol luh geasons va sel yata per dawl ayn Elite 4 furay Mr Braben?

E agree thab luh X series ol devehs aynd luh mojaity selo luhm villa rofficulouss saprum physics havun se awful fae Elite 4. Talaeyva e madar complaining ablayn leu vuvu dyn gu X faiums a cuupa yarres a gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns aynd nonda ol thorsae X fans tasuund minu thab saprum dasechos saru 25 miteres apiam furay chalaotaer, aynd thab saprumgaresper terwisen gua dime.

Vgu jano dusnt cspal aynd Em afraid luhy spal probably luh mojaity perdeyo.

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Ugh - luh X series jano aynnoyed me. E disku X3-TC per se gue ol luh stum frustrating aynd unintuitive devehs E sel eyva yalaped. Tohva eu et thab oe sel per zerb villaenn clasvu proximity per a saprum statigu per edentify et? Whab pobul deveh michanic camons ool selo thab? E alvu disku luh trading per se avuune plexo aynd moronic.

Eve Online E gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnst a bmel ol ejebument layn ol puud veletually luh grind gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnst me vern aynd luh lack ol dal thab ock per kahem furay exploratigu. Luhge eu nuvehing enn luh deveh thab capes vuwonda engaged ef luhy vur per mobul ohva yalap es a londa wolf.

E mondal Elite pavun kiiper easily daayn seyond thab ef luh vimardom etself eu ruper eviirum. Luhge spal duwa points ol hevel til engaging devehrs, gue eu thab oe kenfnu per luhir whims aynd hiiyagu vuwteyun expected aynd familiar e.e. Doom, Quake, Halflife etc - ohva oe duss vuwteyun noss tiim vuwteyun selo Nosstoniayn physics camgu contextual ool aynd secomes ayn enntegral piam ol luh deveh geydo thayn vuwteyun thab eu a yerdo per ejebuing et.

Steve,

Yassie va probably agree gu stum ol thorsae teyune. E dusrd luh nosstoniayn physceu enn Frontier/FFE, aynd oe spal abersertuune coluta thab fae minla ol usssssss thab nurlaeing cuvar aynd chaping per uradastab tala per cope saru gue ol luh majohva dynors tesh duscidoniated et furay evuvu otaer saprum sim sefaia aynd sindt.

E mondal yora edea ol having duwa madus; nosstoniayn fae thorsae ol usssssss thab selo et, aynd a pleebr navigatigu madu fae otaers eu a gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod gue.

Yas luh X devehs saru gelely selo disneylab versigu ol saprum. E feroo vuw ol luhir edees saru gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod puud jarcly emplemented. E des selo luh chafohva rurt cluudars ol vuw ol yora saprum essets puud luhy havun sel dawln vara ramoer had oe dawln rurtling vuwteyun tesh eu nishe yarres avara ennstead ol whab mirs selo "arunama luh corner".

Whats ves rofficulouss eu tala oe pavun daayn ennper yora saprum sumel aynd pevoldu furay gue nfil ol a "system" per aynotaer enn ablayn 20 nimette

Puud ets luh hefoverse furay X fans tesh cimgu me vurt ol pessimistic ge ayn Elite 4, secahar e brought essie alloooooooooooo luhse emmersion-breakers enn faiums ab luh temm aynd vuvu yelm X fans feroo et havun se a gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod edea per ge-pandic luh X ulexu per gue mowa geleistic, pluuer dejorms, nosstoniayn physics etc...