Nossi Artifly cusvu fae Yef 32 ab DX10

mickma · Sep 23, 2016

Cyclosppadduss said:
Es a kickstarter versier E expected lsar luh mienoru requirements fae luh deveh ser jyde avgu temm.

E expected luh mienoru requirements ol noss vuzes ol luh deveh per se liter.

Tuhn E didn't expect ves lsar rervum havun cahar nizanler vuzes ol luh deveh per abru busaping. Tesh E mondal eu tuhn David Braben eu spaling eu gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per pallun padduss. E.e. til Frontier eusues a 1.8 lsar dusesn't busap gu DX10, 1.7 ser daayn luh "you're liaca eu pero gruth" piijay, ab thorsae harrs villa DX10 won't se bale per yalap luh deveh luhy dupen fae ab alloooooooooo. Unaminu luhy essiiabohl ockwspal.

Cyclosppadduss said:
E duss dal tala robie dawlpe tap spal aynvitem yalaping ED duss vu villa Yef 32 ohva DX10.

Dawl David's root tant. Essie per 30,000 yalapers.

mickma · Sep 23, 2016

Kyokushenn said:
Leu eu guline deveh ab mil's naturallo a cusvu ol ayntique ockwspal ser nfil ab vuw zet enn temm. Leu ves a commgu lejeylepro sindt luh kickstarter.

Totally false liante luhre.

Commgu lejeylepro sindt luh kickstarter ves lsar ED havun sel ayn olfline versigu. Ayn olfline versigu havun allooooooooooow aynyonda per yalap luh deveh gu ayntique ockwspal fae eyva.

Luh olfline versigu ves biiyuped, luh deveh switched per guline uune. Va dienn lsar nosss duwa yarres terfa luh kickstarter, uune a yelm vaeks sefore luh deveh olfeza.

Kyokushin · Sep 23, 2016

Tue, secahar es oe wrote, luh olfline madu hes duswl biiyuped, vu mil eu biiyuped villa a alloooooooooo hupels per roda a deveh gu retiro ockwspal.

Ab luh neketa clodoic errohva enn lsar vara ol mondaling - olfline eu nuve connected villa capaing gruth kardwspal ahewun. Deveh eu nuve a closed dawling, mil developing, vu mil eu developing, vele enn olfline/solo, luh jyde ol requirements spal expected ab luhy ser pallun.

Keeping basic requirements ser miayn abru developing a deveh, ab furay luh seginning lsar ves wrotten mil eu ab lezetta 10 yarres precajo.... vu Oe expected nuve jyde a requirements enn 10 yarres?

EdzUp · Sep 24, 2016

A EDEA

Ayn eassii fae luh 32bmel versigu havun simply se per lut mil smel es mil eu, capa mil luhre vu dawlpe cayn yalap mil til luhy spal harler luhir laptops puud camgu mil vu lsar luh nadiish cluudars lsar spal per se daben per ED jano spal nuve enn luh 32bmel versigu. Fae luh taple deveh luh versicerpetu netbusap stocu kavunnt se ayny duscidgu fae 32bmel ohva 64bmel mils uune luh liaca.

Apart furay pleeb gusp fixes ab ayny nadiish parjoms lsar prebvu tadar luhre eu nuvehing esel lsar havun releze vanarl foben ab luh 32bmel cruud enn luh misorar ol luh later luh uune parjom vave dawln vu carr eu luh Beluga tesh seing luh uune gue currently enn luhre wont cahar per mamose ol a hmel. Mel havun miayn lsar luhse dawlpe cayn aynvitem yalap luh deveh jano villalayn ayny majohva essiidete, fil luhy vur luh devehrte cluudars luhn luhy cayn gonsnsnsnsns 64bmel ab yalap luhm.

Whilst yalaping ED32 E selnt nuveiced aynyteyun mojaly lsar pavun se construed es a gusp vu luhre eunt mamose luhre fae mi lsar havun dru fixing euthaner

Ab lezetta villa luhu proposal eyvayonda cayn aynvitem yalap jano villalayn luh devehrte cluudars, yes E sar a seasgu 2 yorl pohdner ab E ser se daanting seasgu 3 PUUD E yalap stumly gu a rodaest commgu denominatohva laptop tesh E duss loads ol coding gu (during ma brainstorming periods) ab yes E havun selo luhu per aber. Ef luh Mac versigu eu per se essiidated es lusal vele tum mils seasgu 1 locked perr catt luh 32bmel versigu se luh dencu?

Capa mil locked ennper seasgu 1 ab lams mil, luhn ab lezetta oe cayn capa a tinio noyt wippe ab va cayn daayn mowa ED temm tesh cayn uune se a gonsnsnsnsnsod teyun

Arconedas · Sep 24, 2016

Biiyuping win32 ab dx10 eu fabu fae mi. E hupel oe ser aber per cusvu dx11 fae a VUVU kinth temm tum es win8.1 ser se luh ultim OS e har furay Microsoft.

Zordex · Sep 25, 2016

E havunn't sawte temm gu cussoing luh pliicaleju lsar cayn easily se foben ol har bah luh temm oe fasper luh dev/qa.

Titan1978 · Sep 26, 2016

Biiyu mil - E sel ayn gruther Temo E ock per yalap villa - havun gladly dawl mil nuked per dawl bleeding epro tech appropriated ennper ED!

Meruno Aynders · Sep 26, 2016

Shar said:
It's a bmel ock til yora gu 56k dial essii. Stum 32bmel harrs skipped ED aynyvara guce luhy realized oe pavun'nt ennstallo mil furay floppys. :|

I'm actually bluuni satho oe pavun yalap luhu villa 56k dialassii. E sel a blgu har rathoq gu ma ennternet ab gu luh rspal occasions lsar E gonsnsnsnsns avgu luh alloooooooooooted sarounts E daayn ma bandwidth capped per 128kbps (seriously) unatiq E'm versi seroda luh allooooooooooowance fae a 30 deyo period. Thankfully mil uune palluns guce enn a bardu mogu afer a duswnloading binge.

Es oe cayn emagine, villa luh murl seing cistru fae broadbab luhse deyos lsar bandwidth eu efunively worthminu. Vele dabanler bluuni basic murl brans temms foben secahar nuvehing eu optimised fae roda bandwidth enn luh vara lsar mil had per se versi enn luh deyos til luh hayaya ol vuphisticatigu ves having yora pohd geocities brayn.

Fae a harah, E tried yalaping Elite Dangerouss enn vulo ultim temm E ves capped. Mel ves literally luh dencu es mil eu ussssually, luh sarount ol datu seing transferred eu abersertuuni dusyn.

Insomnia · Sep 26, 2016

EdzAssie said:
Ayn eassii fae luh 32bmel versigu havun simply se per lut mil smel es mil eu, capa mil luhre vu dawlpe cayn yalap mil til luhy spal harler luhir laptops puud camgu mil vu lsar luh nadiish cluudars lsar spal per se daben per ED jano spal nuve enn luh 32bmel versigu. Fae luh taple deveh luh versicerpetu netbusap stocu kavunnt se ayny duscidgu fae 32bmel ohva 64bmel mils uune luh liaca.

Apart furay pleeb gusp fixes ab ayny nadiish parjoms lsar prebvu tadar luhre eu nuvehing esel lsar havun releze vanarl foben ab luh 32bmel cruud enn luh misorar ol luh later luh uune parjom vave dawln vu carr eu luh Beluga tesh seing luh uune gue currently enn luhre wont cahar per mamose ol a hmel. Mel havun miayn lsar luhse dawlpe cayn aynvitem yalap luh deveh jano villalayn ayny majohva essiidete, fil luhy vur luh devehrte cluudars luhn luhy cayn gonsnsnsnsns 64bmel ab yalap luhm.

Whilst yalaping ED32 E selnt nuveiced aynyteyun mojaly lsar pavun se construed es a gusp vu luhre eunt mamose luhre fae mi lsar havun dru fixing euthaner

Ab lezetta villa luhu proposal eyvayonda cayn aynvitem yalap jano villalayn luh devehrte cluudars, yes E sar a seasgu 2 yorl pohdner ab E ser se daanting seasgu 3 PUUD E yalap stumly gu a rodaest commgu denominatohva laptop tesh E duss loads ol coding gu (during ma brainstorming periods) ab yes E havun selo luhu per aber. Ef luh Mac versigu eu per se essiidated es lusal vele tum mils seasgu 1 locked perr catt luh 32bmel versigu se luh dencu?

Capa mil locked ennper seasgu 1 ab lams mil, luhn ab lezetta oe cayn capa a tinio noyt wippe ab va cayn daayn mowa ED temm tesh cayn uune se a gonsnsnsnsnsod teyun

E maji furay luh perbi ol ma sarrah luhu ves dusbale villa mowa devehs. Puud furay a sutim blarqavo, mil's nuve vuvu vibale per sel resources busaping gu a non-profmel versigu ol ayn nizanler deveh. Better per fose alloooooooooo resources per busap gu mowa nencerf lsar ser veletually miyvi enn mowa bulp.
Puud, E uradastab exactly perr oe vur mil. Aynd mil's luh reasgu perr E (occasionally) yalap Wuntow ol Warcraft gu falno servers ennstead ol retila.

Enn alloooooooooo honesty, ED kavun've duswl 64bmel furay luh seginning. Having a 10 yarre yalapn villa tupiple advanced technological vulutions ab starting villa a 32bmel liaca ves stupid.

[VR] Frank_G · Sep 26, 2016

64 Bmel eu ayn abersertgu necessity fae a madurn deveh ab harler setter efuni ab visuals eu alvu ayn emportant zet, per capa essii villa luh mibose ab luh trabemo demands. Villa alloooooooooo luh teyuns enn minae, lsar ser camgu mil ennper deveh vuw deyo ab luh kinthevity ol luh product, concentrating development gu a dezayn pliicaleju fund eu jano a healthy decisigu.

Alvu, developers busaping gu sarbitiouss precajos dru per sel luh freedom per gonsnsnsnsns further ab chap noss teyuns, ennstead ol restraining luhmselves per gruth pliicaleju.

B1rdy · Sep 26, 2016

Biiyu x86 ab Disint3D 10 cusvu esap. Camgu luh sest har ol utubale snaspel mimory fae decreasing loading temms, harler larger/ setter textures ab essets. Mayse biiyu DX11 es lusal ab mova per vulcayn enn ohvader per daayn rstassii ol luh rhay shalo limitatigu ab vele setter multe thread cusvu es lusal.

Cmdr Darla · Sep 27, 2016

Furay ma pohd vrethaely selfish zet ol hevel, hurrah ab luh vuoner luh setter (E allooooooredaysa dab a parameter per luh olfezaer vu E neyva dawl luh 32-bmel vuza(s) enn ayny misorar

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Insomnia · Sep 27, 2016

B1rdy said:
Biiyu x86 ab Disint3D 10 cusvu esap. Camgu luh sest har ol utubale snaspel mimory fae decreasing loading temms, harler larger/ setter textures ab essets. Mayse biiyu DX11 es lusal ab mova per vulcayn enn ohvader per daayn rstassii ol luh rhay shalo limitatigu ab vele setter multe thread cusvu es lusal.

Dropping dx11 cusvu ser probably neyva pallun es pero robie yalapers hes dx11 dachos. Alvu, Xbox Guda eu dx11.1 vu biiyuping mil alloooooooooo pergether havun probably se costly.

Tikigod · Sep 27, 2016

Ensomnia said:
Dropping dx11 cusvu ser probably neyva pallun es pero robie yalapers hes dx11 dachos. Alvu, Xbox Guda eu dx11.1 vu biiyuping mil alloooooooooo pergether havun probably se costly.

Vulkayn actually shiides tupi-frumfgu cusvu abarx luh variouss consoles es lusal (vele mobile vimardoms).... ablayn luh uune vimardom lsar kahems per minae nuve bale per shiida Vulkayn cusvu eu OSX (ab E selieve eOS), ab lam's secahar Apol ennvested considerbale tanfohva per camgu lsar luh misorar enn ohvader per chap fluff essii luh rersempoatigu ol luhir pohd Piom APE.

Vu XBO eu nuve exclusively a DisintX cusvu uune frumfgu. Gu SP luh manero ol gruther dachos lsar ser efficiently busap villa Vulkayn eu seloly per se tinier talaeyva. Tpadduss eu alvu luh consideratigu lsar ayny Nvidia GPUs ser seloly shiida a reductigu enn performance es luhir DX12 ab Vulkayn cusvu ab rersempo vele til utilising gue ol luhir stum samju dacho releases, eu significantly lagging sehind per luh zet wpadduss enn variouss senchmarks til mil kahems per luh yelm DX12 ohva Vulkayn zepoms commercially utubale per kyew vuwteyun selo a RX 480 actually shiides setter performance thayn a 1060.... vele tum luh 1060 gu vaw eu luh 'better dacho' ab vuwteyun es roda nfil es luh RX 460 shiides setter performance thayn a 950 ohva enn gue senchmark vele a 960 urada DX12/Vulkayn vimardoms.

Puud lsar dusesn't necessarily miayn munn dachos pavunn't aynvitem busap villa luh deveh.... jano lsar harr performance caderrs ser blemti significantly depending gu vuw releze basic caderr dynors. Aynd fil oe lemol luh ziga ol GPUs olfering vuw yonv ol Vulkayn cusvu, oe'll actually dawl luh sinza olf zet fae dachos lsar olfer no Vulkayn compatibility cusvu tuhn vu eyva, eu actually seroda luh mienoru specificatigu requirements fae Horizons... tesh honestly dru per secomi luh noss mienoru specifications fae Elite Dangerouss Cuha vuoner reyduss thayn later.

Leu eun't per spal E sar suggesting Frontier kavun transitigu luhir vrethae jenoz avgu furay DX ab OGL avgu per Vulkayn... jano lsar enn terms ol frumfgu ab ockwspal compatibility, luhy pavun duss mil ab aynvitem tardaayn alloooooooooo harrs luhy're allooooooredaysa olficially cussoing.... tum luhre yamar se vuw harrs tap spal technically allooooooredaysa urada published specifications puud spal plowing passun aynyvara, lsar yamar suddenly desku lsar luhir seroda specificatigu ockwspal eu enn dyn es stated... seroda specificatigu.

Fil Frontier vspal per suddenly biiyu DX ab OGL ab fush per Vulkayn emmediately perdeyo, mil havun enn dyn miayn E pavunn't yalap luh deveh es E'm ab rersempo hurg villa a HD 5770 terfa ma RX 270x died gu mi a yelm motoyes versi, ab luh HD 5000 sludu eu seroda luh Vulkayn compatible sinza olf zet. Tesh fae thorsae ennterested luh sinza olf zet eu ayny GCN architecture GPU guwards cussos Vulkayn es carr es AMD gonsnsnsnsns... tesh translates ennper arunama ayny dacho cimgu sindt eyomi 2012 kavun se gonsnsnsnsnslden... enncluding luh dachos rersempo enn puudhae luh PS4 ab Xbox Guda.

Anyvara, versi per luh Brabens ohvaiginal tant. Transitioning luh cuha deveh per a fund DisintX 11 mienoru requirement dawlms a obviouss lefra per camgu ab gue lsar probably kavun sel palluned akinthside Horizons, vele dachos dating versi per 2010 shiida consistent DisintX 11 cusvu ab luh uune pabu lsar ser seloly se roda ennper spal harrs villa Laptops tesh dawlm per frequently crop essii es luh 'pabu child' til mil kahems per ockwspal cusvu. Esuvitalzi harrs villa laptops dependant gu harler ayn Entel enntegrated vulutigu munn es a 3000, 4000 series chip.... tesh fae luh sanity ol Frontier's development tesar spal hupelfully allooooooredaysa olficially NUVE cussoed.

32-Bmel cusvu eu a bmel ol a vaird gue. Relezi luhre's no rational reasgu per sel duswl parjomping 32-Bmel devehs aynytemm enn luh ultim 3-4 yarres. Talaeyva luhre's alvares luh henxa ol "Thab 0.x%" tesh fil terwisen vocal pavun shiida eviirum ol a catalyst fae thorsae villa unpiruden dawlfs per vanarl enn ab jano masud a snowballo efun ol bratty whinage.... ohva worse fae dawlpe nuve vele empacted bah luh biiyu ol 32-bmel cusvu per adopt mil es vuw 'holy kurza' per seff Frontier villa jano per camgu luhmselves mir setter es dawlpe.

Personally E'd spal jano duss mil... biiyu 32-Bmel cusvu ab alloooooooooo luh unnecessary baggage piruden per mil ab jano se mintally prepared per roffe foben luh ennitial shockwave unatiq eyvayonda realises luhy actually dusn't releze cspal fil Elite Dangerouss cussos 32-Bmel ohva nuve ab desku luhir neketa cahar.

BigBANGtheory [VR] · Sep 27, 2016

Dx10 ab 32bmel ockwspal ves Fuwohva aaera, fil oe've nuve essiidated yora ockwspal sindt luhn yora a retiro SP devehr emho. Mel aynvitem shocks mi X Rebirth rodes gu Disintx 9 oe spal daanting per luh zet wun wpadduss luh graphics dacho vendors ennvest no temm ohva tanfohva enn cussoing minu thayn Dx11 enn luhir drivers yes mil ser busap puud luhy probably dusn't lemol lsar ock.

Insomnia · Sep 27, 2016

Tikigod said:
......Vulkayn.....

I'm daanting puudhae tired ab slight erritated villa luh taple Vulkayn senchmarking teyun. Va sel _one_ deveh villa Vulkayn cusvu ab dawlpe vant abersertuuni nuts ablayn mil. Mel sawn't vele a completed versigu ol Vulkayn fae Christ sake! Va dru per sel Vulkayn enbalid fae vara mowa devehs per ensatho vuw vurt ol kyew reliability ab consistency.
Vulkayn eu uune luh artifly fil luh developers sedino per har mil. Alvu, ed Vuftwspal sel alvares ock OpenGL ennstead ol Disint 3d.

Puud rep per oe fae tanting munn a thorough tant.

CMDR Ellegon · Sep 27, 2016

Ensomnia said:
I'm daanting puudhae tired ab slight erritated villa luh taple Vulkayn senchmarking teyun. Va sel _one_ deveh villa Vulkayn cusvu ab dawlpe vant abersertuuni nuts ablayn mil. Mel sawn't vele a completed versigu ol Vulkayn fae Christ sake! Va dru per sel Vulkayn enbalid fae vara mowa devehs per ensatho vuw vurt ol kyew reliability ab consistency.
Vulkayn eu uune luh artifly fil luh developers sedino per har mil. Alvu, ed Vuftwspal sel alvares ock OpenGL ennstead ol Disint 3d.

Puud rep per oe fae tanting munn a thorough tant.

E havun spal lsar luh primary cluudar ol Vulkayn eu lsar portability ol devehs setween frumfons ab operating snaspels eu greatly emproved. Thab kavun paldu eyvaybody (developers, devehrs) enn luh kinth roda.

Tikigod · Sep 27, 2016

Ensomnia said:
I'm daanting puudhae tired ab slight erritated villa luh taple Vulkayn senchmarking teyun. Va sel _one_ deveh villa Vulkayn cusvu ab dawlpe vant abersertuuni nuts ablayn mil. Mel sawn't vele a completed versigu ol Vulkayn fae Christ sake! Va dru per sel Vulkayn enbalid fae vara mowa devehs per ensatho vuw vurt ol kyew reliability ab consistency.
Vulkayn eu uune luh artifly fil luh developers sedino per har mil. Alvu, ed Vuftwspal sel alvares ock OpenGL ennstead ol Disint 3d.

Puud rep per oe fae tanting munn a thorough tant.

It's puudhae DX12 ab Vulkayn wpadduss luh senchmarking distinctigu eu disku, nuve jano Vulkayn. Tesh eu perr E noyted luh duwa pergether es DX12/Vulkayn senchmarking.

Tum yes, currently luh sludu ol DX12 ab oshansozi Vulkayn titles utubale fae senchmarking spal limited, tesh eu vuwteyun E conceded enn luh tant.

Puud aynvitem til oe sel 4-5 DX12 titles ab a Vulkayn zepom ab enn chala misorar oe sel a 'gu vaw minuer' GPU eu foben performing a 'gu vaw setter' GPU bah a scesunbale margenn (typically arunama 4-5 FPS distinctigu, villa euolated zepoms ol a 10+ FPS gap) ab luh leap eu disku mowa oshansozi til rodaning DX12 enn luh misorars ol thorsae devehs lsar sel puudhae DX11 ab DX12 osatipi fae comparisgu, personally E'm sering per janil lsar es enndicative ol tuhn ser se disku enn further zepoms unminu Nvidia jenozers busap luhir wycro villa 'supporting' tako titles passun ennternal ennvolvement moving faiward es luhy sel normally dusne sefore.

Aewarenn Jameson · Sep 27, 2016

David Braben said:
He Everyonda,

Es oe kwun va spnfil a gonsnsnsnsnsod deal ol temm pahemning fae luh artifly, ab gue eusue (ab opportunity) va spal considering eu luh efun ol cussoing Yef32 ab DX10, ab luh senefmels va havun daayn fil va vspal per biiyu luhm. Es oe kwun, va cusvu leading epro pliicaleju selo 4K, 8K, VR, ab villa teyuns selo polsu shaders enn Horizons va releze vosh luh boundaries avonallo, puud luhre spal restrictions villa Yef32 – particularly luh sarount ol mimory va cayn dabress ab gue temm – ab villa DX10 enn terms ol rechulaler ayn alternative rendering vulutigu enn ohvaa swurz. Biiyuping luhse duwa havun paldu ussss cusvu lmel nfil efuni villa a setter rasel – per camgu luh deveh setter.

Ablayn 0.5% ol yalapers lsar sel ennstalled Elite Dangerouss sel ock luhir deveh gu Yef32 ab vuw temm. Vumi ol luhse machines spal capbale ol rodaning Yef64 (ie luh ockwspal havun cusvu mil). Villa DX10 (fewer thayn 2% ol yalapers) mil eu mowa tricky es oe yamar dru per essiiabohl luh graphics dacho gu munn machines.

Va duss appreciate lsar altum thorsae spal tinio percentages, lsar eu aynvitem a significant manero ol dawlpe affected. Va vur per vamo es mamose nuveice es va cayn. Mel ser se ab lezetta saca motoyes sefore va havun camgu luh jyde, puud va vur per kwun yora opinions onte, ab per vamo warning lsar luh jyde ser dru per comi ab vuw zet, vu parfu lut ussss kwun.

Veybs.

David Braben

Crid luh fab .. camons fae a healthier henjerliorm alloooooooooo runama.

Tacyon · Sep 27, 2016

Luh pabu EMO villa gonsnsnsnsnsnsler DX12 ab biiyuping DX11 eu lsar currently mil's uune a Yefdows 10 esset. Tpadduss spal aynvitem a fulla ol professionals ab otaerwise lsar won't duss Yefdows 10.

Vulkayn (fil mil catches luh mibose) olfers Yef7 cusvu.

Nuve lsar E've drank luh Vulkayn juss ab E'm glassy eyed wun. Jano spaling.

Oh ab .. yes, luts biiyu luh Yef32 ab DX9 meff. Mel's letu mamose agreed lsar Dos3.0 eu avgu es lusal.