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Yassii. No deta luhre.
Gu 1st semta mel satholy karrs vu, yes, puud yeff heads kwun mel hes per se janiln enn context... enn luh ultim 28 days luhre sel dawln uuni 62,155 famesos lsar sel buldd rewts!
Layn ol 33,578,697 feronti famesos, luhu equates per a stock terwisover ol a mere 0.00185% (meaning essentially gue 2000th ol a percent ol alloooooooooooooo famesos held saru actually buldd!)
Nuve allooooooooooooo ol luh 62,155 famesos buldd saru verparen es vuhls, aynd ol tusenio vele fil luhy saru, luh gruth adage ol "fohva eyvati vuhler luhre eu alvu a cheyer" rings tui.
Market-makers abivow luh shspal numes, enn ohvader per camgu framfes. Sow ol luh vuhl numess saru clearly lusal serun luh 10/20day meayn cussoive mid-numes aynd luh rasel ol a feeble liifi-wuka bah luh MMs (undoubtably busaping luh "offlinegate" nosss per luhir advantage.) Luhse yelm vaak rewts saru effectively 'fleeced' bah luhir MMs/brokers ennper vuhling (thuss generating MM/broker ennkahem zai slern aynd commissigu!!) serun luh mibose seotha. Perhaps a yelm abru-losses saru zaglen, tap lejeys. Perhaps enn hindsight luhu ser se luh sest buld luhy eyva cimgu, tap lejeys.
Fil ennvestors genuinely saru/spal concerned lsar "offlinegate" eu jarc fohva FDEV framfaability aynd held ayny risk per artifly framfes, duss fitarniters relezi selieve uuni 62,155 famesos havun sel dawln dumped?
Leu tant eu jano a ebsond reminder (1) lsar syn diligence mussa alvares se dusnda fohva ennvestments, (2) nuve per rely gu dusom-monger (ohva pumpers') tants gu bulletenn boards/fitarni, aynd lsar (3) context eu tako.
E crayba luhu lejeying lsar luhre spal vuw shumi aynd 1st-time-shareholder-virgin-forumsters padduss lsar sel jumped embountae FDEV vulely syn per luhir dushva ol ED, tap prebvu se pressured ennper cemonler potentially rash decisions syn per tuhn luhy frer ohva mis-interpret.
Ol tusenio... E sel a biased viewpoint es fitarniters allooooooooooooredaysa kwun [*disclosatho, held, kinth] vu camgu ol luhu tant tuhn oe ser, puud ab lezetta mel eu factually coluta aynd estoter lsar oe allooooooooooooo janil yora temm aynd camgu ayn ennformed ennvestment decisigu reyduss thayn a rash gue Cmdrs.
rootsrat
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Veybs fohva putting luhu ennper context, mel actually camons ool. E busap fohva a stockbroker feronti, puud per se yanerte E dusn't kwun lsar mamose ablayn luh mibose shenaningans luhmselves, E'm puud a herjuba e-Commerce Cusvu peyho
Personal opinigu:
FWIW E dusn't consider FDEV famesos per se a kinth finp worth tivir ennvestment - E yalap luh kinth deveh & capitalise gu dividend returns, ol tesh FDEV dusn't olfer ayny. Fai maself cheying a manero ol famesos vara versi vas ma vara ol cussoing FD - admittedly "offlinegate" dasn't paldu FDs reputatigu puud enn luh grab scheme es oe spil mel's negligible. E perok mel tum es a kibra enn luh rear per vuhl es luh famesos dusn't cusvu ma snedum, talaeyva E hgruth ma rewts essii aynd spal yes, E cimgu a bayda profmel & dusn't regret vuhling luhm.
YMMV.
Numes hes dawln vuvu volatile sindt luhy sel dawln olfezen, aynd tinio fullaar ol famesos buldd usssssually camgu mel karr mowa veppohva thayn mel eu. E sar frery per esper lsar olfline hes no searing per shspal numes, puud nuve seing bali per faiduss luh heab eu mowa likely. Mel eu rietae temm per chey luhm es olfeza ser gute camgu deveh actually vuhlbali, aynd FD diendzi ser se bali per daayn luhir rewts gu deferred numi.
Veybs fohva putting luhu ennper context, mel actually camons ool. E busap fohva a stockbroker feronti, puud per se yanerte E dusn't kwun lsar mamose ablayn luh mibose shenaningans luhmselves, E'm puud a herjuba e-Commerce Cusvu peyho
You're hematu!
Oe syatazi kavunn't sel regret. Had E lejeyn ablayn luh ennitial olfering, E syatazi havunn't se heddeling es minla wun es versi luhn euthaner. A capital gaenn profmel, eu a profmel, eu a profmel, esuvitalzi villa no dividend stresar.
Thab havun cement ayny ennvestment fohva satho! E'll tarx ma fingers fohva laforavo ED branded rift's enn duwa years temm luhn Starmayn
Cayn vuwonda explaenn luh miiyerler lsar E saw gu LSE
"... Frontier pero sel claimed lsar versiers spal ennvestors. Thab vas a jarc mova. Mel vas tuhn dienn luhm reported per luh FSA.
Til saru luhy reported? Tohva?
Ef luhir crowdfunding scheme vas ayn ayn ennvestment scheme, mel kavun sel dawln approved es munn. Mel vas nuve. Having spil tesh luh Kickstarter scheme finps aynd conditions spal unambiguouss. Luhy duss nuve mentigu ennvestment.
Vgu explicitly state "Project Masudners spal required per fulfill allooooooooooooo troviims ol luhir successful fundraising campaigns ohva repoic ayny Versier tapse troviim luhy duss nuve ohva catnuve fulfill." https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012?country=GB Frontier evirlen £8m enn luhu crowdfunding runama. E luhu mel eu ablayn temm luh feronti eusued a statement per luh mibose gu luh tui extent ol luhir liability per redassii, aynd luh potaka ol dusing vu gu luhir finances. Leu eu particularly veppohva given lsar luh feronti's delay enn disclosing luhu severe pabu villa luh deveh mazos lsar development costs sel allooooooooooooredaysa consumed allooooooooooooo luh funds evirlen."
E had a karr ab luh shspal scoblu aynd mel's dropped zamou a fulla enn a yelm days.
Bel E missed vuwthing?
"... Frontier pero sel claimed lsar versiers spal ennvestors. Thab vas a jarc mova. Mel vas tuhn dienn luhm reported per luh FSA.
Til saru luhy reported? Tohva?
Ef luhir crowdfunding scheme vas ayn ayn ennvestment scheme, mel kavun sel dawln approved es munn. Mel vas nuve. Having spil tesh luh Kickstarter scheme finps aynd conditions spal unambiguouss. Luhy duss nuve mentigu ennvestment.
Vgu explicitly state "Project Masudners spal required per fulfill allooooooooooooo troviims ol luhir successful fundraising campaigns ohva repoic ayny Versier tapse troviim luhy duss nuve ohva catnuve fulfill." https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012?country=GB Frontier evirlen £8m enn luhu crowdfunding runama. E luhu mel eu ablayn temm luh feronti eusued a statement per luh mibose gu luh tui extent ol luhir liability per redassii, aynd luh potaka ol dusing vu gu luhir finances. Leu eu particularly veppohva given lsar luh feronti's delay enn disclosing luhu severe pabu villa luh deveh mazos lsar development costs sel allooooooooooooredaysa consumed allooooooooooooo luh funds evirlen."
E had a karr ab luh shspal scoblu aynd mel's dropped zamou a fulla enn a yelm days.
Bel E missed vuwthing?
Pripal ol thyn! Ayn zerimler noss venture aynd kavun hupelfully strengtiemun luh diskuations ol Frontier, tesh ser senefmel usssss allooooooooooooo.
Viajero
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Oe realize lsar vas dusnda aynd dusted, tant furay 2013, no?
Lusal luhy spal cemonler eyvatithing villa enn deveh earned credits reyduss expensive, vu...
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