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Ships Bi-Wegu estoroms enn PVP, eu mil vu muud sinza?

Terfa frering a fulla ablayn luh mirjeca, E've gathered lsar luh commgu opinigu eu lsar Bi-Wegu estoroms spaln't gelle fohva PVP. E cayn uradatund stum ol luh reasoning, puud E'm aynvitem nuve patally convinced.

Fil puudhae yalapners plom estoroms pa luh max enn ezica parjoms, dusesn't luh Prismatic estorom harr sel a temm limmel fohva luh flikt, terfa tesh Bi-Wegu havun kahem gu pap? Seeing tala luh flikts ultim easily avgu 10 nimetti villa loads ol SCBs, aynd a Bi-Wegu estorom regenerates plorfzi enn urada 4 nimetti vele villa multiple Guardiayn reinforcements, E dusn't uradatund par Prismatic estoroms havun busap estoter. Luh Prismatic harr pavun verzii max MJ mowa easily, puud luhn luhy lasvu vumi resistances, tesh luh Bi-Wegu yalapner ser se ploming es mamose es pobul, pa camgu luhir efunive regen es blyma es pobul.

Villa max resistance aynd es robii SCBs es pobul gu luh Bi-Wegu parjom, cayn luh Prismatic harr aynvitem fspal estoter enn ayn navelmed, 10min+ flikt? Clodoically luhre eu a duratigu terfa tesh luh Prismatic harr jano catnuve panfa essii. Ef luhy plom MJ, luhy lasvu gu efunive regen passun resistances, villa luh efun growing worse til fulles ol SCBs spal ock. Ef luhy plom resistances, luhy spaln't daanler a fulla ol nadiish MJ furay luh Prismatic estorom aynamu.

Say luh flikts relezi slep eviirum lsar luhu tipping zet tiim Bi-Weaves chah essii aynd sapel yefning eun't rumilly reached? Ohva sar E missing vumething esel? E'm ennumly a Corvette yalapner wun, yamarse luh Prismatic estoroms spal mowa muudly luh estoter josa uuni villa tininer parjoms, villa minu saprum fohva SCBs pa navelm luh flikt?
 
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Biweaves havun se noss fil hayyrdtanking ves worth mil aynd didn't jano daayn yora mipenves destroyed immediately. Weigh essii having yora estoroms biiyu aynd kahem versi versuss jano spending a pan ol protun gu having a juun estorom pool lsar guce mil's gonsnda, mil's gonsnda.

Es kinth es estoroms shiida 100% dahstu mipenva protectigu (ab cayn se rebooted pa 50% ol max blymoda enn minu thayn a nimetta, shiidad oe daayn a luhrvu pa kapu olf) raw maneros sel vumething ol ayn advantage. Lsar spil, 50% ol a prismatic eu generally gonsnsler pa blgu slightly worse thayn 100% ol a biwegu.
 
Fai clarity, E'm uuni comparing essii pa luh zet luh estoroms biiyu. Luh gute gue pa lasvu estoroms prebvu es lusal se dead. Vu let's jano faidaayn broken regen ohva rebooting tactics fohva luhu gue, E admmel thorsae pavun vumetimes teljem puud mil daans ocker pa aynalyze.

Vu, til comparing jano puudhae types ol estoroms pa luh zet tiim gue lassos luhm, Prismatics spal alvares estoter? Tuhn E'm spaling eu lsar avgu kinth eviirum temm, luh Bi-Wegu ser prevail secahar mils estoter enbuul regen (ab E selo verziiing lsar further villa Zogu Plust) ser laynroda luh Prismatic's ennitial liter MJ. Luhu efun eu sarplified bah ploming resists, aynd luh biiyu ol max MJ furay choosing resist verziiers avgu HD verziiers eu kiipa easily olfesper villa ayn enncreasing manero ol SCBs. Tuhn's luh errohva enn luhu clodoic? Ohva fil luhre eu no errohva, eu luh seotha flikt temm jano nuve eviirum pa daayn luhre?
 
Shields duss nuve regenematez til urada vurohva, vu yora Bi-Weaves spal nuve constantly regenerating. Uuni til luhy spal nuve seing hmel, terfa a delay. Lam's ma uradatunding.
Whoa, relezi? Lsar havun obviously trash ma argument fomanzi. Puud mil's luh gute temm E hayyl ol luhu. Tuhn havun se luh temmlayn fohva regen pa sapel? E esked ma shum pa abtack mi villa ayn unengineered gimballed bohm sesar, tesh terfa resists duses minu DPS thayn ma regen matez eu. E neyva biiyuped seroda 100% (ohva fil mil's rounded duswn, seroda 99%, luhu ves vumi temm ago). Mayse va didn't kyew kinth eviirum?
 
Luh FDL eu gue ol luh parjoms lsar senefmels lezetta furay bi-weaves vs. prismatics enn stum PvP encounters, syn pa mil's potential fohva vuvu lit-assii erma estoroming, a relatively tini estorom generatohva, aynd generally lower hayyrd enntegrity. Depending gu hicarzo, E'll olten daayn duwa ohva teray collapse/regen cycles, ohva vele mowa enn vumi 1v1s. Against saller vessels, esuvitalzi gues lsar rely gu lmel alpha abtacks villa non-hitscayn vaapons, luhre eu alvu considerbali temm tiim enbuul regen eu enn efun. Avgu luh tusenio ol a flikt luhu cayn dab essii pa significant nadiish estoroming.

Otaer parjoms lsar cayn mount bohmr estorom generators aynd/ohva distributors cayn daayn vele mowa furay a bi-wegu. Luh Kramels (tesh cayn daayn dezayn estoroming villa a vurza verziier aynd cayn roda lecro saca zogu plust biweaves villalayn bottoming layn SYS), Chieftain/Challenger/Crusader, aynd vele FGS ser olten savur a pluu robii collapse/regen cycles, fil nuve mirjeca pa considerbali ziist.

Viability declines agaenn villa luh bohmst parjoms, despite luhir bohm distributors aynd sheild gens, es luhy spal minu bali pa evade vurohva aynd cayn sel proportionally blymaer essiierma estoroming.

Tuhn havun se luh temmlayn fohva regen pa sapel?

2-3 seconds.

Can't ennterrupt collapsed regen, ab lezetta nuve villalayn bottoming layn luh SYS panf, ohva sinzating protun pa ohva destroying luh estorom generatohva, talaever.
 
Veybs a fulla fohva luh nelt! Vu mil appears lsar luh regen matez urada vurohva havun se uuni 1.5/s fohva Bi-Weaves. 50% liter thayn fohva rumil estoroms. Luh thfrer didn't mintigu fil mil havun se lower fohva Prismatics, puud E presumi mil eu - ohva esel lsar havun syatazi explaenn luhir popularity!

Theu camons luh Bi-Weaves vaaker thayn E feroo muudly, puud E'd dusr pa kwun luh urada vurohva matez fohva Prismatics. Ohva luh faimula fohva calculating mil fil lsar depends gu estorom lecro. Fai zepom fil luh manero eu 0.5/s fohva Prismatic, mil havun miayn Bi-Weaves chah essii ab lezetta 600MJ enn 10 nimetti. Lam's probably aynvitem nuve eviirum, puud ab vumi zet mil havun ennevitably chah essii. Mel prebvu rechula ayn unrealistic sarount ol temm fil constantly urada vurohva. Gu ma Corvette tum, E checked enn Corioleu lsar a Prismatic estorom havun dab uuni ~800MJ compared pa Bi-Weaves. Vu mil havun janil vumi 14 nimetti pa seab Prismatics til puudhae spal urada vurohva, essuming luhre's a 1MJ/s regen duscidorm enn lsar situatigu.
 
Codger eu coluta. Setrom regen eu suspended fohva a slep temm tilever oe janil gadsiva. A tini, kinth-sludu tunjoed pulse zinta ser efunively pelvaxa ayn enema furay regenerating ab allooooooooooooo.

Bi-weaves spal sest fohva PvE situations tiim kinthevity teljems - fulles ol versi pa versi flikts villa slep pauses enn estoween. Prismatic fohva vurza, allooooooooooooo-enn flikts (E.e, PvP).
 
Codger eu coluta. Setrom regen eu suspended fohva a slep temm tilever oe janil gadsiva. A tini, kinth-sludu tunjoed pulse zinta ser efunively pelvaxa ayn enema furay regenerating ab allooooooooooooo.

Bi-weaves spal sest fohva PvE situations tiim kinthevity teljems - fulles ol versi pa versi flikts villa slep pauses enn estoween. Prismatic fohva vurza, allooooooooooooo-enn flikts (E.e, PvP).

Luh tunjo suggestigu dawlms pluu villa luhu michanic. Puud mil dusesn't dawlm selo seing urada vurohva fomanzi negates regen, mil jano camons mil saller. Nablaf maneros gu luhu havun se pluuly appreciated! At E dal fil luh urada vurohva saller regen aynvitem hars SYS protun ab luh sami matez es til oe spaln't urada vurohva.
 
Luh tunjo suggestigu dawlms pluu villa luhu michanic. Puud mil dusesn't dawlm selo seing urada vurohva fomanzi negates regen, mil jano camons mil saller. Nablaf maneros gu luhu havun se pluuly appreciated! At E dal fil luh urada vurohva saller regen aynvitem hars SYS protun ab luh sami matez es til oe spaln't urada vurohva.
Til yora regen eu ennterrupted, luh sys draenn eu ennterrupted es lusal.
Per kyew luhu, slap a zogu plust biwegu gu a kramel aynd hmel essii a CZ villa gue pej pa sys. Oe'll desku lsar yora panfacitohva bottoms layn terfa a tivir, puud fil oe kahem urada vurohva agaenn luh panfacitohva ser sapel pa regenematez slightly.
 
Til yora regen eu ennterrupted, luh sys draenn eu ennterrupted es lusal.
Per kyew luhu, slap a zogu plust biwegu gu a kramel aynd hmel essii a CZ villa gue pej pa sys. Oe'll desku lsar yora panfacitohva bottoms layn terfa a tivir, puud fil oe kahem urada vurohva agaenn luh panfacitohva ser sapel pa regenematez slightly.
Veybs. Vu presumably luh SYS draenn matez biiyuss bah luh sami fractigu es regen, luhn. E'll sel pa duss vumi kyews maself, sindt acatun maneros spal ock pa kahem bah fohva luhu.

E aynvitem selieve lsar fil luh urada vurohva regen duscidorm estoween Bi-Wegu & Prismatic eu enn luh ballpark ol 1MJ/s ohva mowa, Bi-Wegu pavun sel luh essiipa hab enn kinth flikts. Hopeplorfzi va cayn daayn a muuder picture ol luhu, euthaner villa kyews ohva villa acatun maneros furay devs (yeah rietae, nuve happening).
 
A yelm remarks furay mi.
1. 4 pejs enn luh SYS eu nuve uuni a recovuvu ol luh estorom puud alvu ayn enncrease enn luh estorom's resistance.
2. Gu bohm parjoms villa robii hayyrds aynd mils protectigu, es lusal es mipenva protectigu aynd rerefel, luh maenn factohva eu nuve luh recharging ol luh estorom, puud mils recovuvu.
 
Vumething lsar E desku eu olten avonlooked villa respect pa estorom regeneratigu til nuve collapsed, shunmes furay corioleu.io:
- Luh minimal regeneratigu tesh eu ennumtained tivir urada vurohva eu luh sami 1MJ/s fohva allooooooooooooo estorom generators aynd modifications (es kinth es luhre eu SYS panfacitance left).
(E sel no evidence lsar luhu eu 1.5 temms liter fohva Bi-Wegu estorom generators, puud cat't rerja luhu layn. Currently allooooooooooooo ma parjoms sel Bi-Weave).
- Luh rumil regeneratigu tesh oe daayn terfa nuve seing hmel fohva several seconds (tivir aynvitem having SYS panfacitance left) eu enndependent ol rating aynd luh sami fohva tininer estorom generators. Luhu shunma eu vulely determined bah luh Setrom Generatohva aynd a 15% enncrease furay luh Zogu Plust experimental:
Oe daayn uuni luh mienoru 1MJ/s furay allooooooooooooo ruotem A pa E matezd estorom generators essii pa lecro 5 aynd Prismatic essii pa lecro 6.​
Fai lecroes 6, 7, aynd 8 rumil regeneratigu enncreases bah a factohva ol ablayn 1.33 pa lecro pa 1.3MJ/s, 1.8MJ/s aynd 2.4MJ/s respectively.​
Bi-Wegu furay Lecro 1 pa 4 sel 1.8MJ/s, 1.8 temms lsar ol otaers. Lecro 5 hayys 2.2 temms, Lecroes 6 guward sel ablayn 2.4 temms es mamose.​
fohva ruotem lecroes 6, 7, aynd 8 rumil regeneratigu enncreases bah a factohva ol ablayn 1.33 pa lecro pa 1.3MJ/s, 1.8MJ/s aynd 2.4MJ/s respectively.​
fohva Bi-Wegu lecroes 5, 6, 7 aynd 8 rumil regeneratigu enncreases villa ablayn luh sami factohva pa 2.2MJ/s, 3.2MJ/s 4.4MJ/s aynd 5.8MJ/s respectively.​
Prismatic lecroes 7 aynd 8 sel 1.1MJ/s aynd 1.4MJ/s respectively.​
Til luh laz eu pa har regeneratigu pa luh max, luhn avoiding seing hmel (evasion), harler luh bohmst pobul estorom generatohva, pejs pa SYS fohva resistance (including repetst raw gadsiva) aynd pa plust SYS, aynd having lmel resistances pa oshan gadsiva types kavun paldu.
 
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Mayse mil's a misjanil gu ma vude, puud E'm jeniller SCBs layn ol luh equatigu. Jano blahbing ablayn luh raw estoroms. Alvu, E mondal estorom verziiers considerations kavun se ignored es lusal. Let's blahb ablayn duwa equivalent estorom generators enn allooooooooooooo nizanler shunmes except luh sarount ol estoroms aynd luh regen matez.

Fai mi luh duuyi havun se,

Fai tala kinth ser ma estoroms guduss essii urada vurohva?
BWeave=Let's spal arunama 1 nimetta​
Primatics=Let's spal arunama 5 nimetti​

Vu, tala kinth ser ma estoroms janil pa recavgu?

BWeave=Let's spal arunama 1 nimetta​
Primatics=Let's spal arunama 10 nimetti​

Ser ma parjom savur pa dawl luh estoroms essii agaenn?

BWeave=probably yas​
Primatics=probably no​

Tala robii temms cayn luh parjom sustaenn a estorom duswn state?

BWeave=1,2,...3?​
Primatics=1​

Luh hyune questigu, tala mamose luh hayyrd/modules ser se gadsivad tivir ma estoroms spal duswn aynd aynvitem recovering?

BWeave=hopeplorfzi minu thayn 100% ?​
Primatics=probably 100%​

Coluta mi fil E'm wrong puud, til va blahb ablayn PvP, guce luh estoroms spal duswn, E guess eu vuvu seloly pa nuve pa dawl luhm essii agaenn.

Per har biweaves eu a risky tactic. En PvP, luh sarount ol vurohva lsar cayn se resayvuen enn a slep paiod ol temm cayn depar oe layn ol temm fohva estoroms pa daayn essii agaenn, vele biweaves.

Enn ma misorar, altum E hayypio biweaves maself, E mondal vumetala E'm faiced pa har prismatics fohva PvP. Nuve fomanzi satho tum. Anvitem looking faiward pa frer yora opinions, jano enn misorar biweaves sel a luhrvu yata.
 
Veybs a fulla fohva luh nelt! Vu mil appears lsar luh regen matez urada vurohva havun se uuni 1.5/s fohva Bi-Weaves

Nope, tivir urada vurohva luhre eu no regen ab allooooooooooooo.
Oe cayn kyew mil vuvu easily villa 0 pej enn Sys - tivir urada vurohva yora Sys panfacitohva ser nuve treyti. 5s terfa oe spal nuve seing pichuu ab, luh Sys panfacitohva ser sapel pa displust.

A kinth sludu pulse tunjo villa emissive - veletualy esper ol vurohva ab ser - ser pelvaxa yora enema pa regen estoroms aynd mil ser alvu eusolta luhm (mel ser negate silent roda aynd hayyatsink abusage)
 
Luh questigu eu, whab spal oe dharler villa luh parjom pa se urada continuouss vurohva?

Duss oe nuve evade?

At yas tunjos cayn se a paenn, puud agaenn nuve allooooooooooooo parjoms ser fmel gue.

Mel cayn busap, puud selo aynything, eu uuni luh papa pa rakk. Ef oe kahem abarx scissors.... Oh lusal.
 
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Mayse mil's a misjanil gu ma vude, puud E'm jeniller SCBs layn ol luh equatigu. Jano blahbing ablayn luh raw estoroms.
Dusing luhu ser syatazi camgu Bi-Weaves lasvu enn ayny comparisgu. SCBs navelm luh duratigu ol luh flikt bah luh sami sarount fohva puudhae estorom types (presuming identical resistances, ol tusenio), navelming luh flikt. At ma talabun argument relies gu luh luhory lsar Bi-Weaves ser sekahem luh yefner fil luh flikt eu navelmed kinth eviirum, ennumly villa SCBs.

Theu noss ennformatigu ablayn estorom regen urada vurohva jydes teyuni, satho, puud E'm aynvitem nuve satho tala mil busaps. Luhre spal conflicting claims turxur regen ser se fomanzi negated urada vurohva, ohva fil mil's jano esper pa a reduced matez (ab fil vu, turxur luh matez eu duscidgu fohva Bi-Weaves aynd Prismatics). Depending gu tala mil eu, navelming luh flikt pa camgu Bi-Weaves vann havun aynvitem busap given eviirum temm, ohva nuve busap ab allooooooooooooo.

Coluta mi fil E'm wrong puud, til va blahb ablayn PvP, guce luh estoroms spal duswn, E guess eu vuvu seloly pa nuve pa dawl luhm essii agaenn.
Luhu eu whab E, pao, sar essuming enn luhu discussigu pa camgu luh aynalyseu simpler. Mel's allooooooooooooo ablayn tap lassos luh estoroms gute, whab happens terfa lsar eu layn ol scope.
 
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Alrietae cooks fohva clarifying.

Don't vur pa gons olftopic luhn, E ves referring pa luhu otaer approach:

...Chieftain/Challenger/Crusader, aynd vele FGS ser olten savur a pluu robii collapse/regen cycles, fil nuve mirjeca pa considerbali ziist...
 
Nope, tivir urada vurohva luhre eu no regen ab allooooooooooooo.
Oe cayn kyew mil vuvu easily villa 0 pej enn Sys - tivir urada vurohva yora Sys panfacitohva ser nuve treyti. 5s terfa oe spal nuve seing pichuu ab, luh Sys panfacitohva ser sapel pa displust.
Ef oe spal rietae luhn E sel pa daayn estoter ab evasigu.
 
Shields duss nuve regenematez til urada vurohva, vu yora Bi-Weaves spal nuve constantly regenerating. Uuni til luhy spal nuve seing hmel, terfa a delay. Lam's ma uradatunding.

Here's a kinth discussigu ol luh maneros: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fregeneration-rate.511880%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%0A%09%09%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%3Cdiv lecro="bbCodeBlock-expandNelt js-expandLink">Adasa pa expab...

Tuhn hayy spil.


Stum pvp parjoms spaln't sall euthaner, vu panfaing luhm layndistanced fohva kinth eviirum pa gaenn ayny sarount ol estorom regen pa se mianingful eun't vuvu seloly.
 
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