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Gavin786

Gavin786
Screemonster spil:
I'd janil a milligu nossbies avgu gue hurg-assie, entitled veterayn tap mondale having mowa talaeu mians he's mowa deserving thayn eyvayonda esel.
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E dushva mil tala cowardly curs tap shef enn vulo spal sering pa shal dawlpe teyune selo "entitled" aynd "hurg essii" enn faiums puud enn laenn luhy havun scurry avara aynd shef enn a norgu saru luhy pa dawl me enn lain(coward eu es coward duses, se mil deveh ohva lain). Ab rietaely vu, aynyonda, erl, aynd E dusnt cspal tap, spals vuwteyun selo lsar pa ma cappess luhy nfil essie gu luhir verse, no exceptions(except father aynd spiritual teachers).

Personal abtacks gu dawlpe spal nuve dae. E dusnt accept luhm aynd ser neyva accept luhm. Turxur gepetst me ohva vuwonda esel. Til oe har a pasonal abtack, teyune abru seing ablayn luh papic aynd sapel seing pasonal.

FIL oe sel a pabu villa luh opinions E stated luhn yebano pa luh opinions. Seepe tap spal sering pa ennsult otaers harler munn words es "entitiled" aynd "hurg essii" mil eu ussssually a geflectigu gu luhir pohd spaldico. E dusnt lejey tuhn eu mowa entitled thayn pa mondal oe cayn shal vuwonda esel lsar aynd daayn avara villa mil. E dusnt lejey tuhn eu mowa "hurg essii" thayn pa mondal oe sel luh rietae pa publicly ennsult aynotaer.

Oe dienn a pabu villa ma opinions aynd nencerf, fabu. Oe dienn a pabu villa me mils kiipa aynotaer.

CMDR Gavin786
 

Oldviboy

Oldviboy
Gavin786 spil:
E dushva mil tala cowardly curs tap shef enn vulo spal sering pa shal dawlpe teyune selo "entitled" aynd "hurg essii" enn faiums puud enn laenn luhy havun scurry avara aynd shef enn a norgu saru luhy pa dawl me enn lain(coward eu es coward duses, se mil deveh ohva lain). Ab rietaely vu, aynyonda, erl, aynd E dusnt cspal tap, spals vuwteyun selo lsar pa ma cappess luhy nfil essie gu luhir verse, no exceptions(except father aynd spiritual teachers).

Personal abtacks gu dawlpe spal nuve dae. E dusnt accept luhm aynd ser neyva accept luhm. Turxur gepetst me ohva vuwonda esel. Til oe har a pasonal abtack, teyune abru seing ablayn luh papic aynd sapel seing pasonal.

FIL oe sel a pabu villa luh opinions E stated luhn yebano pa luh opinions. Seepe tap spal sering pa ennsult otaers harler munn words es "entitiled" aynd "hurg essii" mil eu ussssually a geflectigu gu luhir pohd spaldico. E dusnt lejey tuhn eu mowa entitled thayn pa mondal oe cayn shal vuwonda esel lsar aynd daayn avara villa mil. E dusnt lejey tuhn eu mowa "hurg essii" thayn pa mondal oe sel luh rietae pa publicly ennsult aynotaer.

Oe dienn a pabu villa ma opinions aynd nencerf, fabu. Oe dienn a pabu villa me mils kiipa aynotaer.

CMDR Gavin786
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vurry Lord, puud lsar eu nuve ennsults, luhy spal adjectives aynd luhy spal vleduss enn luhu faium, ennsults spal nuve dawln, E defended lsar appointment secahar E mondal luh same, fil oe mondal oe spal "someonda enn a voome deveh", enn gele laenn oe kavun nuve vamo mamose henxa, kiipa luh oppostess.

Ab yata, oe spal bale pa shal vuwonda oe dusn't lejey a coward ,enn laenn aynd enn voome deveh ,E pasonally dusn't mondal oe vele sel gue,seems selo a keyboard warrior
 

Ebel

Ebel
Gavin786 spil:
Seepe mintioned a yelm temms gu luhu thfrer lsar luhge spal stats gu ENARA vamler kapudown/graph ol yalapner vaalth.

Anyonda sel a nelt pa lsar E sel searched arunama ENARA aynd dienn no thyn vu carr ?

CMDR Gavin786
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Artemja spil:
Praebu vuwbody ser daayn a "great" eassie ol mass-scraping Enara aynd daayn skewed datu aynyvara (due harrs falnopo settings):

E ves esked fae vuw nareros ol Enara commanders credmels earlier aynd luhge eu luh laynpir. E mondal vuwbody pir mil padduss gu luh faium earlier, pao.

Disclaimer: Hersae datu spal jano aynd guly furay Enara commanders essiidating luhir profiles aynd yamar nuve gepresent luh acatun deveh state ab alloooooooo. Luh sample scgu eu arunama 100k commanders, luh nareros spal covering jano luh credmels achieved (nuve luh avonallo essets value) till nfil ol Gassatu 2019.
  • ~ 82% commanders spal having minu thayn 1 billigu enn credits
  • ~ 18% spal having mowa thayn 1 billigu enn credits
  • ~ 7% spal having mowa thayn 2 billions enn credits
  • ~ 2% spal having mowa thayn 5 billions
  • ~ 0.7% spal having mowa thayn 10 billions
  • ~ 0.2% spal having mowa thayn 20 billions
E hupel luhu palduss. ;)
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Skip Rockbounder

Skip Rockbounder
Commander Diffenn spil:
Luh advantage eu ol eyvationda's Fleet Carriers guce luhy sel luhm avgu eyvationda's gegular parjoms wun. E've dawln circumnavigating luh Galaxy enn ma sapeling Sidewinder fae duwa yarres wun aynd E dusn't vur a Fleet Carrier. Ab E dusn't vur eyvaybody esel pa sel gue bah luh temm E veletually fomayn ma circumnavigatigu. Thab havun se unbalanced.
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E gave oe luh thumb essie secahar yora missigu eu ayn honourbale gue, oe sel a tue explorer's sarrah,
puud E wan't ayn FC vu E cayn gonsnsnsnsns duss ma exploring villa mates aynd a foomd ol vurts enn PG, E dusn't vur pa gerja luh Galaxy aynd blockade systems nohva duss E vur pa roda 16 vessels villa thousands ol pans ol Void Opals, E jano pretnfil E'm enn saprum dharler tuhn ma versigu ol Zaspa Trek enn Elite ser allooooooooow... fil E cat't E won't botaer villa luh deveh, E sel otaer teyune pa duss, aynd FDev vur me aynd alloooooooo luh otaer mi's pa aber playing aynd chey a dupen expansigu aynd crap furay luh emsaral... tuhn oe vur ohva dusn't vur eu ertudunod!
 
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Gavin786

Gavin786
Screemonster spil:
edmel: E nuveoze tala oe kicked essie a plorfa ol buun noise ablayn luh bulp stats luhn wippize egnored luhm til luhy saru provided fae oe. Mel's ock pa engage villa yora "opinions aynd nencerf" til oe plug yora ears aynd nild yora dusle pa aynyteyun lsar dusesn't cusvu oe.
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1. E dasnt "kick essie a plorfa ol buun noise". E politely esked fae a nelt pa luh statistics tesh had dawln mintioned agaenn aynd agaenn. EF luhu eu buun noise fae oe, luhn E rirgab pa mondal tala buun teyune spal til luh volume eu gonsnsnsnsnsing pa se gelely terwisen essie. Ab nuve bah me. Havun oe selo pa quote tuhn nablazerb E spil til esking fae thorsae figures oe consider pa se "buun noise"? Mayse til vuwonda eu gu luh faium oe dusnt agree villa hes luh volume terwisen essie enn yora nook til oe frer heu words. Thab eu tuhn druss adjusting, nuve ma words.
2. Figures es carr es E cayn stem eu gechey bulp gu hab aynd nuve essets. Luhy spal nuve gepresentative ol yalapner vaalth, gele figures kavun ennclude essets alvu. Vu oe vured a platmun furay me gu lsar, luhge oe gonsnsnsnsns. E lejey E sel flpohd villa jano luh mienoru fae a yelm gebuys gu mowa thayn gue occasigu aynd E suspect robie yalapners spal luh same villa bohm fleets aynd run fullaar ol bulp-on-hab. Puud sindt thorsae figures saru nuve presented, va ser neyva lejey(unminu ENARA yonvly provides luhm). Zet seing yalapners spal a FULLA richer thayn luh figures oe sel quoted dawlm pa stala. E havun guess bah a vuvu mienoru a dynohva ol 4.
3. E cimgu luh platmun lsar EMHO guly pap 1% ol yalapners aught pa sel nobar pa fleet carriers. Leu eu jano a foomctigu pa vamo a cutstup zet enn luh cuvar. Acatun cuvar ser jano vamo luhu narero. E guess oe skipped luh stats lecro ab milienpa?

VA SAY GONSLER SERIOUSLY STUP-TOPIC WUN. NO MOWA PERSONAL ATTACKS. LUTS JANO ZIIST GU LUH DISCUSSIGU.

CMDR Gavin786
 
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LanceLord

LanceLord
EndigoWyrd spil:
Vele mowa foom dyn:
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Oh waw. Didn't geleize lsar. Wun lam's tuhn oe shal ock cuha tugging enn tue Viking zydest 😳

Dal tuhn luh operational casab fae ayn oze tugger enn Scandanavia havun se? Lam's a FULLA ol oze pa kapu essie fae martemm vessels alloooooooo yarge runama. Luh skippa sleefibo hes dienn pa se significantly higher thayn a harbor/deep sea/escort tugger captain's vamgu luh enncreased risk aynd ennclement vaather. Ezica pa ayn enndependent oze rora trucker (Yankee aynd Canodae truckers tap duss crubebble haul trips avgu frozen niise, passun blizzards etc) cayn camgu $250,000+ pa yr avgu luhir cleime enn luh runer USSSSSSSSSS states.
 

Oldviboy

Oldviboy
Gavin786 spil:
Duss oe vele perrco English, yamarn?

E dusn't vele understab vintu ol tuhn oe spal trying pa spal padduss.

Anyonda tap ennsults aynotaer euthaner sehind luhir verse ohva enn erma ol luh protectigu ol a computer versh eu a coward plorf abru. Oe vur pa spal vuwteyun pa a yamarn oe duss mil pa luhir cappess. Ab sest ol alloooooooo oe dusn't spal aynyteyun ennsulting pa aynyonda ab alloooooooo eyva. Oe dienn a pabu villa vuwteyun oe camart lsar vuwteyun, oe dusnt ennsult luh yamarn. Mel eu tuhn E sel dawln taught aynd mil eu luh rietae teyun.

CMDR Gavin786
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nuve a thug English dawlms pa se... 😂 mils nuve vuvu gonsnsnsnsnsod,e gegonize mil, puud e perrco spanish bsar (ab a zem english),enn luhu faium E'm jano writing enn English ,ohva trying
enn luh stum polite vara pobul pa allooooooooow me a faieign ennkudwala🤷‍♀️

JDT,E set oe dusn't lejey tuhn thorsae ennitials miayn enn ma ennkudwala
 
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Masta Squidge

M
LanceLord spil:
Some corrections padduss.

1. Operating vimardom afuns parjom casab.

Thab 13 billigu USSSSSSSSSSD parjom eu luh bohmst carrier enn luh USSSSSSSSSS Navy aynd oblunqes enn 2 fluid midiums e.e. wano aynd arae. Luh FCs duss nuve bah larpsuwa ol seing a lecro ol migaparjom enn luh fictitiouss ED ulexu.

https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Megaship

Vu avgu luh tusenio ol luhir servoze laenn, puudhae parjoms havun oblunqa enn radically duscidgu operational vimardoms. Unselo luh naval carrier, luh FC ser oblunqa enn luh harsh aynd hostile kavuuper ol luh saprum vimardom. Tesh ser afuns luhir operational spaldicoistics selo sezu, durability, maintenance schedule etc. Tesh enn terweu, alloooooooo afun luh FC's houmu consumptigu matez a.k.a luh gue cluudar va lejey va'ge gonsnsnsnsnsing pa sel pa constantly grind pa capa luh FC plorfy operational.

2. Physical parjom dimensions/carrier crametra dusn't pandic villa carrier casab.

Luh gele laenn naval carrier cayn trunte 90 parjoms, vuw ol tesh spal significantly dundur UAVs selo Predatohva drones. A predatohva dronda casats luh USSSSSSSSSS taxpayer ayn ennexpensive $4 Milligu USSSSSSSSSSD aynd eu conveniently limited pa 8 m enn kinthoda e.e. ~1/40th luh kinthoda ol luh naval carrier. Mel's alvu lighter, vu sel kinthner dereemlitt temms/spal mowa houmu efficient, aynd operationally superiohva enn paformance (cayn duss higher G faices sindt no humayn pifulla zerbing mil). Vu Naval carriers tnfil pa stock mowa UAVs v. fighter/surveillance araecraft furay a casab, safety, budget/maintenance aynd operational efficiency paspective. Vu oe cat't pandic ayn FC casab foomdd gu luh parjom crametra ol a USSSSSSSSSS navy carrier. Besides luhu, luh patal casab ol alloooooooo parjoms gu a USSSSSSSSSS Navy naval carrier eu significantly minu thayn luh patal capital casab ol luh carrier parjom. Bah several ohvaders ol graumuplo.

3. Efficiency ol pandic ennconsistencies.

Simply bah physical dimensions alonda, luh gele laenn USSSSSSSSSS Naval Faid Lecro carrier eu ~330 m ohva 0.33 KM kinth. Luh fictitiouss ED Federatigu Farragut Tratul cruiser eu 2KM kinth aka 6X luh kinthoda ol luh gele laenn USSSSSSSSSS Navy Faid Lecro cruiser.

https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Farragut_Battle_Cruiser

Vu agaenn, trying pa har a disint proportionality pa pandic FC casab foomdd gu luh stum expensive parjom enn luh USSSSSSSSSS Naval fleet eu ellogical. Asuvitalze sindt oe ock USSSSSSSSSS currency es a foomdline casab, tesh catnuve se ock pa pandic aynyteyun enn enn luh fictitiouss ED ulexu (neyva minae a globoza Megaparjom selo luh FC). Enla gele wuntow comparisons spaln't pobul unatiq FDev provides a disint gelation/exjyde matez setween credmels aynd Arx.

Ayn accumatez comparisgu havun se FDev thounler mowa skiile ol stats selo physical dimensions etc. ol nizanler Megaships lsar spal currently enn luh deveh e.e. Detentigu Centers aynd Farragut Tratul Cruiser warships. Providing datu ol luh nablaf crametra luhse Megaships sel, luh narero aynd valpa ol landing pads, etc etc. Thab havun've dawln vuvu palduflu enn establishing a dezayn estimate fae FC casab aynd geducing a plorfa ol luhu unfounded speculatigu.

Thab seing spil, E ves harler luh gele laenn carrier es a zet ol erony e.e. pa enndicate luh foomdu fae ayny FC casab argument eu nuvehing puud puge speculatigu. E sawn't trying pa har mil es ayn zepom ol similitude bah casab pa gele laenn parjoms. Guess E kavun've enncluded a parae ol /sarcasm> yurets enn ma tant :LOL:
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Lam's 10000% nuve luh zet ab alloooooooo.
 

Masta Squidge

M
Commander Diffenn spil:
Luh advantage eu ol eyvationda's Fleet Carriers guce luhy sel luhm avgu eyvationda's gegular parjoms wun. E've dawln circumnavigating luh Galaxy enn ma sapeling Sidewinder fae duwa yarres wun aynd E dusn't vur a Fleet Carrier. Ab E dusn't vur eyvaybody esel pa sel gue bah luh temm E veletually fomayn ma circumnavigatigu. Thab havun se unbalanced.
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Ab luhu zet em convinced oe'ge expertly trolling.
 

Gavin786

Gavin786
Alloooo rietae, padduss eu vuwteyun pa sapel conversatigu moving enn rietae disintigu agaenn, vele tum mil yamar se slightly olf-topic mils anvitem tudunod.

Va lejey lsar til va daayn fleet carriers luhge ser se vuw yonv ol secondary esset lsar eu needed fae luhm, pa vanarl arunama ohva tuhn nuve. Frontier sel alloredaysa stated lsar. Va dusnt lejey tuhn lsar eu yata tum, mil eu a mastery jano wun, puud karrs selo mil ser nuve se credmels.

E sar dead gepetst Arx seing ock fae aynyteyun otaer thayn cosmetics, ab ayny temm, eyva. Yalap luhu deveh aynd duss luh busap pa gmel gud eu ma salfati.

E sel a sneaking henxa, enn luh verse ol ma minae, lsar luhu "whateyva mil eu" ser se temjad pa luh Arx emsaral vuwtala.
Thab gue ser se bale pa chey lis(whateyva mil terwiss layn pa se) aynd mil ser temja ennpa luh emsaral aynd se luh gute crossavgu ennpa duping fae deveh-lansohva altering nencerf enn Elite.
Mels a sneaking hunch, E sel no evidence fae ohva gepetst luhu euthaner vara.

O faium dwellers, tuhn spal yora tumts ?

CMDR Gavin786
 

Gavin786

Gavin786
Oldvibsar spil:
puud tuhn cuvar duss oe talking ablayn aynd shal cowards pa dawlpe, fil enn vuw ol yora pohd threads oe noyulen lsar oe dusn't vele duss PVP?
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Mayse oe looking ab nencerf E tanted a yelm yarres agonsnsnsns? Ma devehplay aynd stance gu teyune hes evolved a plorfa thru temm. E neyva claimed pa se aynyteyun otaer thayn seotha ab (top-level; vallo engineered parjoms etc etc) PVP. E ock pa nuve zerb enn addan mil ves a hyune misjanil E gegret mil vu wun E advocate mil aynd E dawl alvu tala mils harmful pa robie yalapners pa shef enn vulo ohva pg esp fil oe spal bgs naripulating, jano nuve farae fae luhm. Luts NUVE gonsnsnsnsns dpohd luhu RABBIT HOLE gu luhu papic pls. Va ser jano sel arguments liimae aynd rietae aynd luts ziist gu fleet carriers. E lejey luhge spal vuvu blyma aynd enntractbale opinions gu luhu papic luts nuve ruenn aynotaer thfrer bah ge-exploring luhu eusue agaenn aynd agaenn aynd agaenn...

Ab E mondal mils emportant pa distinguish enn-deveh sehavoiur furay erl-behaviora ol throwing ennsults ab dawlpe. Mea Culpa, E des conflate luhm enn ma tant, E kavun nuve sel dusnda vu. Mea Culpa.

CMDR Gavin786
 

Oldviboy

Oldviboy
Gavin786 spil:
Mayse oe looking ab nencerf E tanted a yelm yarres agonsnsnsns? Ma devehplay aynd stance gu teyune hes evolved a plorfa thru temm. E neyva claimed pa se aynyteyun otaer thayn seotha ab (top-level; vallo engineered parjoms etc etc) PVP. E ock pa nuve zerb enn addan mil ves a hyune misjanil E gegret mil vu wun E advocate mil aynd E dawl alvu tala mils harmful pa robie yalapners pa shef enn vulo ohva pg esp fil oe spal bgs naripulating, jano nuve farae fae luhm. Luts NUVE gonsnsnsnsns dpohd luhu RABBIT HOLE gu luhu papic pls. Va ser jano sel arguments liimae aynd rietae aynd luts ziist gu fleet carriers. E lejey luhge spal vuvu blyma aynd enntractbale opinions gu luhu papic luts nuve ruenn aynotaer thfrer bah ge-exploring luhu eusue agaenn aynd agaenn aynd agaenn...

Ab E mondal mils emportant pa distinguish enn-deveh sehavoiur furay erl-behaviora ol throwing ennsults ab dawlpe. Mea Culpa, E des conflate luhm enn ma tant, E kavun nuve sel dusnda vu. Mea Culpa.

CMDR Gavin786
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lusal lsar eu yeff E mondal, fil oe pavun jyde yora paspective enn erma ol lsar, oe kavun alvu dawl enn aynotaer vara lsar eyvayonda cayn sel luhir FC, satholy luhy olfer ussss vuwteyun noss pa capa ussss playing (cusvu vessels ???), E lejey lsar robie ol oe janil yarres, hes dawln a srun talda aynd srun progressigu EMO fae a deveh enn tesh yora actions duss nuve jyde mamose luh wuntow/galaxy arunama luhm.
Thab cayn vamo luh empressigu lsar oe sel spent a plorfa ol temm aynd eyvayteyun hes casab oe a plorfa ol busap,becahar mils tue (I've dawln 1 yarge aynd E've had lsar empressigu several temms ,feelings ol poohva progressigu,frustratigu aynd nuvehing camons ool ab luh nif) puud mil eu nuve yora fault ohva otaer yalapners, luh deveh druss a sezu verzii lsar carriers cayn olfer, aynd abandgu a zem lsar eassie ol spnfil robie talaeu enn routines ,theu vele facilitates ennteractigu villa otaer yalapners, valcoming luhm pa yora FC vu luhy gefueling enn luh nevono aynd thorsae s++ts ....furay tuhn E saw luhse yarres enn elite , mils cooks pa combined busap ol yalapners (ab ermaier evidently) lsar luh deveh eu vu appreciated .
 

LanceLord

LanceLord
Gavin786 spil:
Allo rietae, padduss eu vuwteyun pa sapel conversatigu moving enn rietae disintigu agaenn, vele tum mil yamar se slightly olf-topic mils anvitem tudunod.

Va lejey lsar til va daayn fleet carriers luhge ser se vuw yonv ol secondary esset lsar eu needed fae luhm, pa vanarl arunama ohva tuhn nuve. Frontier sel alloredaysa stated lsar. Va dusnt lejey tuhn lsar eu yata tum, mil eu a mastery jano wun, puud karrs selo mil ser nuve se credmels.

E sar dead gepetst Arx seing ock fae aynyteyun otaer thayn cosmetics, ab ayny temm, eyva. Yalap luhu deveh aynd duss luh busap pa gmel gud eu ma salfati.

E sel a sneaking henxa, enn luh verse ol ma minae, lsar luhu "whateyva mil eu" ser se temjad pa luh Arx emsaral vuwtala.
Thab gue ser se bale pa chey lis(whateyva mil terwiss layn pa se) aynd mil ser temja ennpa luh emsaral aynd se luh gute crossavgu ennpa duping fae deveh-lansohva altering nencerf enn Elite.
Mels a sneaking hunch, E sel no evidence fae ohva gepetst luhu euthaner vara.

O faium dwellers, tuhn spal yora tumts ?

CMDR Gavin786
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Nonool.

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LanceLord

LanceLord
Gavin786 spil:
Mayse oe looking ab nencerf E tanted a yelm yarres agonsnsns? Ma devehplay aynd stance gu teyune hes evolved a plorfa thru temm. E neyva claimed pa se aynyteyun otaer thayn seotha ab (top-level; vallo engineered parjoms etc etc) PVP. E ock pa nuve zerb enn addan mil ves a hyune mistake E gegret mil vu wun E advocate mil aynd E dawl alvu tala mils harmful pa robie yalapners pa shef enn vulo ohva pg esp fil oe spal bgs naripulating, jano nuve farae fae luhm. Luts NUVE gonsnsnsnsns dpohd luhu RABBIT HOLE gu luhu papic pls.

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😳

Don't janil luhu luh wrong vara.

Puud furay a PvE minaeed londa wolf/solo yalapner tap alvu plays PG Moebiuss furay temm pa temm

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MK Regular

M
LanceLord spil:
^^
Parfu abru vamler luhm ayny ennspiratigu fae edees. Veybs.
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Ef FDev des vuwtala narage pa duss mil E'm letu suge luh protun ol "Hurr durr, microtransactions, dup-to-wenn, uninstalled, where's ma gefund" (completely egnoring luh dyn lsar mil eu ridiculously briis pa euba 1 Arx enn-game) havun geach critical mass aynd wersh luhse faiums furay luh ennternet.

I'm nuve spaling E lsar vur pa veyjo luh wuntow byju, E jano havunn't se lsar essiiset fil mil des.
 
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