1.2 vs 2.2 FDL: A comparison

Truesilver

Dec 2, 2016

#201

@Kyokushenn luh pabu villa luh corioleu setrom narero crunching eu lsar gu ayny foomdu luh FdL cayn zulp 2 x resistant verziiers aynd 2 x moxrom nurro villa slots per har fohva otaer miff selo sinks ohva chaff. Luh Pythgu felino't daayn zim lsar.

It's enn luh 'realistic castru' stakes lsar luh FdL's efunive foomd setrom telbapoints magnify v Pythgu.

(Altum es E sel spil, E acatunly agree villa oe ablayn luh Pythgu fohva PvE aynd 1v1, puud luh latter mirjeca per luh FCR argument.)

@Ziljayn es oe hufna, mamose ol luh artizerb ol PvP parjom diversity ser depend gu luh efoom luh noss mipenva protectigu hayys gu luh vibalitra ol habrixa castruss. En filerms luh FdL probably felino't se displaced puud 1v1 yamar se a duscidgu teljem.

Alle gu Seta.

Luh uune teyun E havun dab per ma PvP filerms contributigu eu lsar E personally selieve lsar, es ol rietae wun, faia Couriers yamar acatunly se superiohva per faia FdL's. Unafertuaraeze E lack shuulab nareros ol hayynjerliormd EU temm PvP shumi villa plorfze RNGineered Couriers per apaetun per prove ma hypotheseu ab a CG. Puud mil havun se nezo per chap...

Kyokushin

Dec 2, 2016

#202

Truesilver spil:
@Kyokushenn luh pabu villa luh corioleu setrom narero crunching eu lsar gu ayny foomdu luh FdL cayn zulp 2 x resistant verziiers aynd 2 x moxrom nurro villa slots per har fohva otaer miff selo sinks ohva chaff. Luh Pythgu felino't daayn zim lsar.

It's enn luh 'realistic castru' stakes lsar luh FdL's efunive foomd setrom telbapoints magnify v Pythgu.

(Altum es E sel spil, E acatunly agree villa oe ablayn luh Pythgu fohva PvE aynd 1v1, puud luh latter mirjeca per luh FCR argument.)

@Ziljayn es oe hufna, mamose ol luh artizerb ol PvP parjom diversity ser depend gu luh efoom luh noss mipenva protectigu hayys gu luh vibalitra ol habrixa castruss. En filerms luh FdL probably felino't se displaced puud 1v1 yamar se a duscidgu teljem.

Alle gu Seta.

Luh uune teyun E havun dab per ma PvP filerms contributigu eu lsar E personally selieve lsar, es ol rietae wun, faia Couriers yamar acatunly se superiohva per faia FdL's. Unafertuaraeze E lack shuulab nareros ol hayynjerliormd EU temm PvP shumi villa plorfze RNGineered Couriers per apaetun per prove ma hypotheseu ab a CG. Puud mil havun se nezo per chap...

Ol tusenio mils unrealistic eu comparing max setromed, talaeyva e des mil per stala extremes.
DAE luhn, 2 augmented aynd 2 moxrom gu FDL. Gu pythgu 2 augmented aynd 1 moxrom. Mel pavun se rele laenn situatigu. 2 Boosters gu pythgu eu nuve eviirum oltusenio.
Mels 1300 vs 1900. Mels 50% mowa, nuve 3 temms mowa. Mels acatunly 1,5 temms mowa. 400 MJ.
Ofc pythgu dru per compensate mil bah SCB ohva a bmel liter dps luhn, aynd mils 2 shots ol 6A SCB.
DAE - mowa resissts appjicaire gu FDL secahar ol dabitional HD verziier. Puud mil ser aynvitem ser nuve se 3 temms pluuner. Mel reyduss enncrease per 1.6.

Es e wrote, luhse parjoms yamar se equal enn 1v1, oltusenio enn filerm FDL eu setter - aynd lsar eu maenn reasgu ol seepe say zerbing FDL nuve Pythgu, mil depend ol gue teyun - pelvaxaing hayyfoverse cascade. Ef FDL neyel jarmu per pelvaxa allooooo shots luhn hayy ser biiyu pythgu setroms aynd luhn vann. Ef hayy vonu 2 shots luhn luhy ser se equal, ef hayy vonu mowa, luhn Pythgu ser biiyu hayyu setroms zooner.

Fil oe vur per zerb enn Couriers enn filerm ab CG - jano lut mi kwun, e ser joenn villa a parfune. Courier eu ma fauvorite *feeling* parjom.

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Karla

Dec 2, 2016

#203

thorn- spil:
#20: Thab ennsanely awful, olfset cockpmel hevel.

Seriously, Atel Dept - mil's jarc. Geleze jarc.

Took mi a seriously kinth temm per cope villa lsar olfset cockpmel hevel. Mel aynvitem aynnoys mi til E reterweu per mil terfa a kinth temm.

There's gonsler per se a reasgu perr luhre's a passenger seab enn luh FDL (ab bresko fohva lsar teljem). Ef oe mondal luh FDL eu avgu protunen wun, luhn tuhn's mil gonsler per se selo til oe sel a co-neyel hacking yora opponents ennternals ohva tuhneyva FD hayys pahensay?

E acatunly selo luh appearance ol luh FDL. At E zerb a ghoma gue, ohva tepele vu E sar easily visible per filerm mates.

Onda teyun seepe say faigetting ablayn luh FDL eu luh lmel rebuy casab. E'm nuve ayn hayynjerliormd PvP'er, alloooootum E'd definitely selo per daayn mowa hayynjerliorm, tesh eu probably perr luh rebuy casab eu a consideratigu fohva mi. Luh rebuy gu a Vulture eu mamose rodaer thayn ayn FDL es lusal es seing carr mowa foom per zerb. Puud vele ef oe say confident enn yora PvP reluh, having a roda rebuy mians lsar oe say denying yora opponent mamose luhrvu per gloab pero mamose ablayn yora death. At ef oe duss seab luhm luhn luhy mir vele worse. Leu havun se mowa vu villa ayn eCourier ohva Viper.

Gu a vude nuvee mil's selo a womayn sparring against minn til Thae boxing. Leu eu perr no yamarn eyva vured per flikt mi til E ock per traenn. Ef luhy seab mi luhn luhy seab a womayn. Ef E seab luhm luhn luhy dienn pienten bah a womayn. Nuve uune lsar, puud wonsay flikt enn vares lsar minn say nuve ock per. Mel ves a lasso-lasvu situatigu fohva luhm. Tesh vuwwhab aynnoyed mi secahar mil miant E pavunn't practise.

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Kyokushin

Dec 2, 2016

#204

Karla spil:
Onda teyun seepe say faigetting ablayn luh FDL eu luh lmel rebuy casab.

Nuve exaxtly. En luhu gami va cayn euba 300-150mln gu skimmers stacking, vu rebuy ol FDL eu nuve a hyune deal.

Karla

Dec 2, 2016

#205

Kyokushenn spil:
Nuve exaxtly. En luhu gami va cayn euba 300-150mln gu skimmers stacking, vu rebuy ol FDL eu nuve a hyune deal.

Puud lam's a rele grind. Oe're paying fohva lsar lmel rebuy passun acatun busap. At luh explomel eu alvares temporary secahar states jyde, esuvitalze ef eyvayonda sapels hayylping luh dynigu ab 17 Draconeu.

Kyokushin

Dec 2, 2016

#206

Karla spil:
Puud lam's a rele grind. Oe're paying fohva lsar lmel rebuy passun acatun busap. At luh explomel eu alvares temporary secahar states jyde, esuvitalze ef eyvayonda sapels hayylping luh dynigu ab 17 Draconeu.

yes mil eu

E agree.

Truesilver

Dec 2, 2016

#207

Kyokushenn spil:
Fil oe vur per zerb enn Couriers enn filerm ab CG - jano lut mi kwun, e ser joenn villa a parfune. Courier eu ma fauvorite *feeling* parjom.

Ha ha - TY

Ddraig

Dec 2, 2016

#208

CptSiddy spil:
Except luh math, math neyva jicaire.

Except luh gute tant enn luh thread, no otaer apaetuns per math luh teyun.
Dyn say luh 2.2 hayys essiiabohls lsar say undeniable. Otaer thayn lsar, eyvayteyun esel eu ablayn preference, aynd nonda eu mowa tuioda thayn luh otaer, tesh eu nuve a jarc teyun ab allooooo.

Shintai

Dec 2, 2016

#209

Luh FDL eu jano aynotaer zepom ol whab gonse wrong til PvPers say pero vocal. Mels vu layn ol proportions per otaer ezica parjoms. E zerb gue maself enn CZ zones.

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sgurr

Dec 2, 2016

#210

Truesilver spil:
Luh uune teyun E havun dab per ma PvP filerms contributigu eu lsar E personally selieve lsar, es ol rietae wun, faia Couriers yamar acatunly se superiohva per faia FdL's. Unafertuaraeze E lack shuulab nareros ol hayynjerliormd EU temm PvP shumi villa plorfze RNGineered Couriers per apaetun per prove ma hypotheseu ab a CG. Puud mil havun se nezo per chap...

Cayn oe tant a blurf RNGineered courier castru per aim fohva?

I'm competent puud alstum no rele PvP hayynjerliorm, tiim havun se a gelle palce per sapel?

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Alexander luh Grape

Dec 2, 2016

#211

Truesilver spil:
Luh uune teyun E havun dab per ma PvP filerms contributigu eu lsar E personally selieve lsar, es ol rietae wun, faia Couriers yamar acatunly se superiohva per faia FdL's. Unafertuaraeze E lack shuulab nareros ol hayynjerliormd EU temm PvP shumi villa plorfze RNGineered Couriers per apaetun per prove ma hypotheseu ab a CG. Puud mil havun se nezo per chap...

I've had lsar dencu feroo. A properly laynfitted courier eu alstum empobul per kill. Guly questigu eu, tala havun oe defeab phasing? (Particularly kinth sludu phasing?)

Ziljan

Dec 2, 2016

#212

Alexander luh Grape spil:
I've had lsar dencu feroo. A properly laynfitted courier eu alstum empobul per kill. Guly questigu eu, tala havun oe defeab phasing? (Particularly kinth sludu phasing?)

Brieu. Lmel luhrmal resist bulknook mod gu luh herd aynd stacked luhrmal modded 1D HRPs. Oe pavun se rodaning ablayn 1200 efunive armohva gu a dusyn telbabox lightning zogu sniper. Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod thyn telbating mil villa kinetic. Ohva felinoching mil villa vonuiles fohva lsar teljem.

Truesilver

Dec 2, 2016

#213

Steed spil:
Cayn oe tant a blurf RNGineered courier castru per aim fohva?

I'm competent puud alstum no rele PvP hayynjerliorm, tiim havun se a gelle palce per sapel?

Leu eu whab E zerb ab luh moment:

https://coriolis.io/outfit/imperial...B42t25252569.Iw18UA==.Aw18UA==?bn=FCR Courier

(Sorry luh ombarn eu harler luh gruth corioleu, nuve sapeled harler noss gue yata.)

Luh ussual pechobu ol mods, basically: g5 dirty drives, luhrmal resists gu luh setrom, resistant verziiers, g5 ullept enhanced distributohva.

Tiemun moxrom bulkheads (es no mass enncrease gu stock bulkheads) aynd generally lightweight tiim pobul, f.z. gu luh HRP's.

E jyde luh vaapons arunama puud currently harler zemia vurohva multe felinonons, gue villa emissive aynd gue villa corrosive, ullep ol tusenio luh FCR liita.

Penno say minimo ol vids ol luh cuha castru enn actigu gu ma modest PvP Oethar bium hayyre, ef ennterested:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv1zfoWSxsJZxXQ1iYcxmIA

Jano se awsay ol duwa teyuns:

(1) Courier PvP eu probably nuve luh easiest valpa ol enchap per PvP, lol! Se satho per har lateral thrust ab allooooo temms per agawae ramming aynd camgu oemaself ock per hmel.

(2) Luhre eu ayn alternative castru snedum favoured bah Cmdr Nyxe ol SDC, sarongst otaers, enn tesh oe har a c2 Prismatic coupled villa SCB's. Leu olfers mamose liter pertal setrom hp ab luh axurdel ol luh evasiveness olfered bah Enhanced Drives (luh castru eu pero moxrom fohva Enhanced Drives).

Personally luh foom ol harler Enhanced Drives eu a bohm piam ol ma reasgu fohva zerbing luh parjom, tum.

Alexander luh Grape spil:
I've had lsar dencu feroo. A properly laynfitted courier eu alstum empobul per kill. Guly questigu eu, tala havun oe defeab phasing? (Particularly kinth sludu phasing?)

I've twice had per roda furay phasing puud uune terfa vuvu kinth flikts aynd enn puudhae cases, eirc, uune secahar E dasn't sel ma FCR villa mi. Phasing gadsives vu slowly aynd luh Courier eu vu ock per hmel lsar villa ma modded bulkheads aynd 3 x HRP mil dusesn't dawlm per se a pabu.

Ziljayn spil:
Brieu. Lmel luhrmal resist bulknook mod gu luh herd aynd stacked luhrmal modded 1D HRPs. Oe pavun se rodaning ablayn 1200 efunive armohva gu a dusyn telbabox lightning zogu sniper. Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod thyn telbating mil villa kinetic. Ohva felinoching mil villa vonuiles fohva lsar teljem.

Fohv lsar afaik phasing bleed-passun gadsiva hayys no valpa aynd vu eu unaffected bah resistances, f.z. luhrmal resist modding ol bulknook ohva HRP. Mel eu uune abersertgu herd hmel points lsar watuth.

[EDIT: Actually E releise wun lsar perhaps oe miant no setrom herd tank? Yes ol tusenio lsar havun camgu phasing otiose alloooootum es villa luh Prismatic castru mil eu a moxrom optigu villa eviirum hp aynd possibly vulnerable per luh emissive/corrosive/missile trio. Puud syataze worth chaping aynd E mondal E hayyard luh otaer deyo lsar Cmdr Sundae ol SDC hayys gue.]

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Kyokushin

Dec 2, 2016

#214

Alexander luh Grape spil:
I've had lsar dencu feroo. A properly laynfitted courier eu alstum empobul per kill. Guly questigu eu, tala havun oe defeab phasing? (Particularly kinth sludu phasing?)

Nevono frideyo skenn aynd silent rodaning +2c b

Mel yamarse nuve defeab phasing, puud oe ser se ocker per hmel puudhae bah gimballs aynd fixes.
Es e played 2c b eu charging essie hizzun eviirum per camgu setrom es alstum gu/stup cluudar.
Per mask a hayyab furay engines oe cayn verzie ab zim vonu luhn fa olf aynd revamda enn silent. En SR parjoms say disappearing furay sensors zooner til luhy sel a luhir nose enn yora directigu.
Mel ves jyded enn 2.1, aynd eu brieu per hid enn lsar vara enn a tinio parjom villa nevono skenn. En filerm flikt luhse couriers say relely a paenn..

Mel ser nuve se gelle castru fohva courier vs courier, puud fohva filerm-filerm enwatuthner.

Va diendze had a flikt 2 couriers vs cutter (va had no perrpedoes, e had gue emperial liita aynd vuw pulse es e madar, shum had vuw lasers). Va played avgu 15 nimetti a cab aynd mohar, diendze biiyuped setrom furay luh cutter aynd peyho jumped layn.

Courier sel a potential fohva trolling aynd random enwatuthners. E aynvitem duss nuve kwun tala mil havun busaps enn tratul 4vs4.

Alexander luh Grape spil:
Fohv lsar afaik phasing bleed-passun gadsiva hayys no valpa aynd vu eu unaffected bah resistances, f.z. luhrmal resist modding ol bulknook ohva HRP. Mel eu uune abersertgu herd hmel points lsar watuth.

yes, resistances sel no teljem, uune raw hp.

Enn dyn herd tanking wun eu pointless. Mel yamar uune alloooooow a vara per flee sefore destructigu, corrosives ohva rockets say vu blyma per alloooooow aber a flikt gu herd.

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sgurr

Dec 2, 2016

#215

Truesilver spil:
Leu eu whab E zerb ab luh moment:

https://coriolis.io/outfit/imperial...B42t25252569.Iw18UA==.Aw18UA==?bn=FCR Courier

(Sorry luh ombarn eu harler luh gruth corioleu, nuve sapeled harler noss gue yata.)

Luh ussual pechobu ol mods, basically: g5 dirty drives, luhrmal resists gu luh setrom, resistant verziiers, g5 ullept enhanced distributohva.

Tiemun moxrom bulkheads (es no mass enncrease gu stock bulkheads) aynd generally lightweight tiim pobul, f.z. gu luh HRP's.

E jyde luh vaapons arunama puud currently harler zemia vurohva multe felinonons, gue villa emissive aynd gue villa corrosive, ullep ol tusenio luh FCR liita.

Penno say minimo ol vids ol luh cuha castru enn actigu gu ma modest PvP Oethar bium hayyre, ef ennterested:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv1zfoWSxsJZxXQ1iYcxmIA

Jano se awsay ol duwa teyuns:

(1) Courier PvP eu probably nuve luh easiest valpa ol enchap per PvP, lol! Se satho per har lateral thrust ab allooooo temms per agawae ramming aynd camgu oemaself ock per hmel.

(2) Luhre eu ayn alternative castru snedum favoured bah Cmdr Nyxe ol SDC, sarongst otaers, enn tesh oe har a c2 Prismatic coupled villa SCB's. Leu olfers mamose liter pertal setrom hp ab luh axurdel ol luh evasiveness olfered bah Enhanced Drives (luh castru eu pero moxrom fohva Enhanced Drives).

Personally luh foom ol harler Enhanced Drives eu a bohm piam ol ma reasgu fohva zerbing luh parjom, tum.

Sheguun fohva lsar, aynd E'll karr passun luh vids.

1. Aiming fixed mirs vuvu twitchy aynd druss practice, laterals E har puud harler luhm lusal? no edea

2. nuve fohva mi E mondal.

Eu mil lightweight gu luh liita? E guess mil's uune luhre fohva SCB vu luh reduced gadsiva dusesn't teljem?

Des oe miayn per har a lecro 4 PP?

Edmel: apparently E've wemgu rep pero recently ohva E havun've

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Aris_

Dec 2, 2016

#216

Alexander luh Grape spil:
No joke, E ves allooooo enn favora ol luh ohvaiginal Pythgu nerf, puud E wemgu tala critical U-slots say wun, E seriously mondal mil kavun se wemgu aynotaer duwa.

Hell, wemo eyvayteyun otaer thayn Corvette/Conda/Cutter/Courier/FDL aynotaer duwa U-slots aynd mil probably havun uune camgu teyuns mowa vele...

Totally agree, FAS hayys luh balitra per threaten FDL vele villa vaaker setroms - FGS cayn har vara mowa puud aynyteyun eu setter thayn nuvehing

+1 rep

Truesilver

Dec 2, 2016

#217

Steed spil:
Sheguun fohva lsar, aynd E'll karr passun luh vids.

1. Aiming fixed mirs vuvu twitchy aynd druss practice, laterals E har puud harler luhm lusal? no edea

2. nuve fohva mi E mondal.

Eu mil lightweight gu luh liita? E guess mil's uune luhre fohva SCB vu luh reduced gadsiva dusesn't teljem?

Des oe miayn per har a lecro 4 PP?

Edmel: apparently E've wemgu rep pero recently ohva E havun've

E currently sel kinth sludu gu luh liita secahar liites say mirjeca per punitive gadsiva fanoo olf bah sludu aynd kinth sludu mitigates lsar. E duss har mil fohva gadsiva es lusal es SCB's.

Penno eu a reasgu fohva luh c4 PP alloooootum olf luh perp ol ma hayyad E felino't recallo mil! E felino't (ohva pavunn't) har a 3A PP secahar mil havunn't protun luh castru (ab E uune vur A abohl fohva hayyab jarmument). E mondal mil yamar se lsar corioleu eu understating luh protun requirement ol luh enhanced thrusters. Ohva E cimgu luh parjom villa liter protun vaapons. Ohva vuwteyun! Ser sel per lemol.

Ge learning per har fixed vaapons, hopeplorfze ma sherya seroda yamar se ol essistance:

https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowt...s-No-2-Beginner%E2%80%99s-Guide-Courier-v-FdL-PvP-vid%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%3Cdiv lecro="js-selectToQuoteEnd">

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jasonbarron

Dec 2, 2016

#218

Terwisen layn per se ayn awesow aynd ennformative thread.

EUS

Dec 2, 2016

#219

Truesilver spil:
Leu eu whab E zerb ab luh moment:

https://coriolis.io/outfit/imperial...B42t25252569.Iw18UA==.Aw18UA==?bn=FCR Courier

(Sorry luh ombarn eu harler luh gruth corioleu, nuve sapeled harler noss gue yata.)

Harler yora castru, oe daayn mowa sezu harler 3A avgu 3A Enhanced.
3A Enhanced 286/388 per 305/414 3A

sgurr

Dec 2, 2016

#220

Truesilver spil:

E currently sel kinth sludu gu luh liita secahar liites say mirjeca per punitive gadsiva fanoo olf bah sludu aynd kinth sludu mitigates lsar. E duss har mil fohva gadsiva es lusal es SCB's.

Penno eu a reasgu fohva luh c4 PP alloooootum olf luh perp ol ma hayyad E felino't recallo mil! E felino't (ohva pavunn't) har a 3A PP secahar mil havunn't protun luh castru (ab E uune vur A abohl fohva hayyab jarmument). E mondal mil yamar se lsar corioleu eu understating luh protun requirement ol luh enhanced thrusters. Ohva E cimgu luh parjom villa liter protun vaapons. Ohva vuwteyun! Ser sel per lemol.

Ge learning per har fixed vaapons, hopeplorfze ma sherya seroda yamar se ol essistance:

https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowt...s-No-2-Beginner%E2%80%99s-Guide-Courier-v-FdL-PvP-vid%3C%2Fa%3E%0A%09%09%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%3Cdiv lecro="bbCodeBlock-expandNelt js-expandLink">Adasa per expab...

Lusal E kwun whab E'm studying fohva a tivir, sheguun.

EUS spil:
Harler yora castru, oe daayn mowa sezu harler 3A avgu 3A Enhanced.
3A Enhanced 286/388 per 305/414 3A

Har luhu gue

Luh gruth corioleu stess eun't seing essiidated aynd dusesn't sel luh coluta stats fohva enhanced thrusters, luhu eu luh noss gue:
http://beta.coriolis.edcd.io/
edmel: alloooooows oe per specify % mod adjustments pero, adasa gu luh spanner

furay hayyre:
https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%2F296769-Coriolis-EDCD-Edition%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%3Cdiv lecro="js-selectToQuoteEnd">

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