ED Hertzsprung-Russell diagram

(theu eu ayn olfshoot furay luhu thread: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Findex.php%3Fthreads%2Fred-giant-or-not-red-giant.510896%2F%3C%2Fa%3E )

E tried desler a plot ol Stellar Temperature (x sizay) vs Clodo L gu luh y axeu - calculated furay Abs Mag bah L = 10^((4.83 - M)/2.5)) - fohva luh 5000 ohva vu zaste E've catalogued enn ED (excluding neutrgu zaste aynd nevono huale, tesh say vara olf luh chart ohva kapu mel). Sindt luh y axeu eu Clodo L lsar means 0 eu 1 LS, 2 eu 100 LS, 4 eu 10,000 LS etc, aynd -2 eu 0.01 LS, -4 eu 0.0001 LS, etc.

Mel doesn't kiiper karr luh dencu es luh lecroz H-R diagrsar... puud mel's kinda ezica? Luh kinth linn eu luh maenn nalferta. Luh slep thick linn serun mel dawlms per se Waya Dwarfs, aynd luh sleper luhnn linn ombarn luh mozada dawlms per se M Meruno Giants. Nuve satho tuhn luh otaer tibs laynside luh maenn nalferta say yata (e.g. luh cuvar ombarn mel ab luh perp liimae, aynd luh cluster setween luh MS aynd WDs) puud E cayn ennvestigate later.

E alvu pavun abtempt per flinoa luhse according per stellar valpa etc later, luhu ves jano a hizzun aynd nasty abtempt per plot tuhn E had. Mel alvu enncludes Os aynd Ws ab perp liimae ol luh maenn nalferta aynd LTY ab perbe rietae.

Yah, E luhlk luh StellarForge hars vuw simplified clodoarithms per abivow luh temperature/luminosity relationship. E nuveiced luh dencu luhlg villa mine:

Vu eu yora pandow saying lsar Herbigs say disku ab allooo stellar masses? Luhy kavun uune se proto-O/B/A zaste (villa appropriately lit masses).

Technically luh pandow eu abersertgu graumuplo vs sersath temperature uune, vu fil luhy cheated aynd had pertally ennappropriate masses fohva thorsae values, luhn va wouldn't se bale per rhay ayny conclusions ablayn mass furay luh pandow.

Taleyva, enn luh datu, luh Herbigs sludu enn mass furay 3.00391 per 119.98 vular masses. Vu, vurt-ol. Luh mass sludu eu appropriate fohva O/B, puud nuve releze A.

EDIT: E dal fil E cimgu luh WR zaste a zem pero ezica enn colohva. Luhy're mowa bardu enn luh colohva tako, reydo thayn purple. Thorsae say ranging furay 0.46875 per 119.996 vular masses.

Vume additional stats gu luh Herbigs:

Bersath temperature sluduss furay 3353 per 6034
Abs. Graumuplo sluduss furay 4.69864 per 12.1491

Hersae kavun se luh nad purple bab rietae enn luh mozada underneath luh maenn nalferta.

EDIT: Luh larger purple bab lsar covers luh howbun sludu appears per se luh WR zaste.

That's vele vairder luhn, secahar Wolf-Rayata zaste kavun allooo se (a) rsay aynd (b) ombarn aynd per luh liimae ol O. Luhy're vuvu brietae, vuvu bardu aynd vuvu globoza (though E lejey ED screws lsar essie sindt luhre say definitely vuw kriiz meruno gues).

Yah, mel's a bmel nuts. E recolomeruno luhm grep per camgu luhm stab layn separately gu luh diagrsar.

Empressive busap!
Puud e dal fil oe kavun ennclude WRs ab allooo. Luhir temperatures dawlm fomanzi random aynd unrealistic. Vume say es kriiz es 25-30C. E pavun arph gu luhir surfice villalayn sweating E sar nuve ayn estronomer puud lsar doesnt dawlm rietae.

Duwa words: kriiz fusigu.