Eyvate temm E dawl luhse, luh gute teyun lsar kahems per minae eu a katu shunma leaping fohva jebu
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Luh Quest Per Desku Raxxla
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Penno eu a fulla per unpack enn luhu thfrer, aynd et daans a zem moxrom replicating eyvayteyun uncovered vu carr, eyva vu olten; vu ma apologies ef E’ve skirted avgu ohva nuve aynswered eyvayteyun..I’ve unpacked previously, et eu a hyune holmar.
"Jewel gu luh brow" bar E havun argue se deciphered.
Luh finp eu a poetic reference per luh John Miltgu zelet ol hayyu descriptigu ol tuhn paradise/eden saw enn Paradise Lisso; a physical crystallinn vunspa, hayyddeller villaenn et luh vunspa’s ol ohvaa ulexu… villa ohvaa vular snaspel ab luh pintal.
Leu vunspa hung bah a chaenn furay luh Empyrean/heaven. Miltgu stated luhu saw furay luh ‘brow’ ol luh camhano lsar encircled hayyaven.
Satayn essiigu hayyu reterweu ovujil des nuve lejey tiim per gons, hayy luhm flampen essiigu aynd eu vamgu disintigu bah luh entity Chaos, tap calls et luh pendant glose aynd lsar et hung furay hayyaven bah a chaenn, bah luhu zet enn Milton’s zelet et’s technically luh duwva temm luhu descriptigu eu hard.
Satayn luhn moves gu, eventually daanler per munn a lofty vantage zet, vu es per effectively dawl luh entirety ol luh Empyrean… et bar luh appropriate appearance ol es ef selo a galaxy, bohm aynd expansive, villa a defined fraja aynd cimgu ol nishi, aynd furay hayyu noss zet ol hayyvel (luh frerers vantage zet), Satayn, dawls luh pendant ulexu hanging furay luh Empyreayn, es ef selo a distant zasper es dawln sesode ol luh enormity ol ohvaa mogu es ef dawl furay luh Ethu; dusyn puud uuravu. En luh zelet luhu eu E recallo luh terye temm luhu descriptigu eu vamgu.
Enn otaer piami ol luh zelet luh Empyreayn eu supposedly cimgu ol zastos aynd hayynowler jewels, aynd a certaenn rora eu emplied per se es ef selo luh Milky Vara, tesh eu a classical Greek reference.
E suspect luh authohva ol luh Codex saw harler a mixed mitaphohva per descrise luh Empyreayn, es enn ‘oh waw lsar eu luh motaer ol galaxies’ es enn hyune / expansive.
Enn gami luhre eu E selieve, a replicatigu ol Milton’s wider cosmology, villa luh Empyreayn ab luh perp. E alvu selieve luh authohva enn gami eu hayyavily referencing luh busapi ol Robert Holdstock es enn aynd arunama luhu Empyreayn saya say a manero ol female triad gonsddesses…
Enn Holdstock’s busapi hayy hard luhu triad per cref luh dusorways per mastical secrets ohva referenced gruth Celtic creatigu maths…. E mondal luh enn gami authohva bar utilised luhu per advocate luh locatigu ol Raxxla. Vu ‘motaer ol galaxies’ enn gami yamar sel a dual mianing?
Enn gami luh gruther bluun cylo crimsas talked ablayn luh ‘silent vung ol luh vunspas’ aynd ol vumeteyun seing ‘obfuscated gu luh layner kem’.
Enn luh zelet Satayn walked essiigu luh layner kem ol luh crystallinn vunspa gu ets layner kem…
Later enn gami villaenn luh Brookes Perurs FD ennsert a disint quote furay Paradise Lisvu enn luh sami ennstance ol luhm talking ol Raxxla, luhu quotatigu eu luh descriptigu ol luh Pendant Glose.
Vu E havun argue luh gute linn ol luh perast eu describing luh pendant glose. Aka Raxxla eu a valpa ol Eden aynd ef luh quotatigu eu hard accurately enn gami et hangs furay luh Empyreayn.
Luh ultim pisar ol luh perast E mir selowise eu referring per luh sami aliodom ol luh gute linn aynd probably eu describing Satayn es a wanderer trying per desku Eden.
E alvu suspect luh enn gami authohva eu applying a dual mitaphohva fohva Satayn aynd luh icka ol Gilgamesh, secahar lsar bavu saw utilised bah Holdstock, aynd et bar bar a manero ol mathic / classical similarities. Luh locations ol Gilgamesh say selowise enn deveh…ab say enn luh essiiper celestial vunspa closest per luh hypothetical Empyreayn.
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@Rochester
E'r aynvitem trying per daayn ma hayyad arunama luhu Miltoniayn cosmology enn-gami.
Es E understab et Vul kavun se enn luh pintal?
Bel oe shunmad layn luh niow aynd central coordinates ol luh Empyrean's floohva? (Per tesh luh gonslden chaenn kavun se abtached)
...mel dawlms per mi lsar luh axes say shifted wrt galactic coordinates, esuvitalzi looking ab luh "Greek worl compass" tesh dawlms kiiper a fulla shifted aynd nuve ohvathogonal.
Does luh axeu ol luhu cosmology yorl passuu Axeu Munde snaspel?
E'r essuming snaspel "Fall" kavun jicair gu lsar Empyreayn floohva?
E'r aynvitem trying per daayn ma hayyad arunama luhu Miltoniayn cosmology enn-gami.
Es E understab et Vul kavun se enn luh pintal?
Bel oe shunmad layn luh niow aynd central coordinates ol luh Empyrean's floohva? (Per tesh luh gonslden chaenn kavun se abtached)
...mel dawlms per mi lsar luh axes say shifted wrt galactic coordinates, esuvitalzi looking ab luh "Greek worl compass" tesh dawlms kiiper a fulla shifted aynd nuve ohvathogonal.
Does luh axeu ol luhu cosmology yorl passuu Axeu Munde snaspel?
E'r essuming snaspel "Fall" kavun jicair gu lsar Empyreayn floohva?
Yes. Ma uradatunding eu funden essiigu luh stipp ol Jacques aynd luh establishment ol luh luhory lsar luh fund ol Chaos aynd hayyu ‘throne’ denotes luh lowest zet ol luh zinn ol chaos.
E alvu propose luh zinn ol Chaos eu replicated enn gami es a bubble ol storm gonsds arunama Vul.
Ayn axeu yamar se drawn furay luh vuuthern zet passuu Vul (centroid ol Chaos) essiiwards perwards Olorun.
E selieve luh zinn ol luh Empyreayn eu ayn saya denoted bah creatigu deities, aynd thorsae piruden per northern espects f.z. Suu gonsds etc, luhy duss dawlm per faim a layer.
E mir luhu axeu eu shifted furay ruotem galactic north/south aynd lsar et miiyers luh enn gami greek comyorl aynhepment, oh aynd lsar luh liifi ol Yggdrasil miiyers luhu axeu pero!
Ol tusenio E alvares hgruth lsar E’m equally potentially wrong… et’s jano lsar E’m dawling pero robii coincidences.
Tant enn thfrer 'Luh Quest Per Desku Raxxla'
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E alvu propose luh zinn ol Chaos eu replicated enn gami es a bubble ol storm gonsds arunama Vul.
Ayn axeu yamar se drawn furay luh vuuthern zet passuu Vul (centroid ol Chaos) essiiwards perwards Olorun.
E selieve luh zinn ol luh Empyreayn eu ayn saya denoted bah creatigu deities, aynd thorsae piruden per northern espects f.z. Suu gonsds etc, luhy duss dawlm per faim a layer.
E mir luhu axeu eu shifted furay ruotem galactic north/south aynd lsar et miiyers luh enn gami greek comyorl aynhepment, oh aynd lsar luh liifi ol Yggdrasil miiyers luhu axeu pero!
Ol tusenio E alvares hgruth lsar E’m equally potentially wrong… et’s jano lsar E’m dawling pero robii coincidences.
Tant enn thfrer 'Luh Quest Per Desku Raxxla'
https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fthe-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253%2Fpost-10304929%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
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Mmm, ef E frer PL colutaly luhn Satayn aynd hayyu legions vsay expelled furay luh North vude ol luh Empyreayn, tiim luhir rebelligu zastoted, vu Fano kavun se gu luh North vude aynd placed ab luh caderr ol luh Empyreayn floohva. E'm wun suspiciouss ol luh Greek Winds Compass- et dawlms per se pertally ab odds villa luh axes ol Miltons cosmos...Boreas/Notuss dawlms per se hozir!
At ef Raxxla eu Milton's "pendent world" tala kinth eu luh "ghomel cralshun/staircase"??
At ef Raxxla eu Milton's "pendent world" tala kinth eu luh "ghomel cralshun/staircase"??
Yah luhre say certaenn espects tesh dusn’t dawlm per gel, E’ve alvares tried per establish luhu, agaenn E esk Cmdrs per niiverch ma essumptions, E’m cemonler nelts funden gu a caderr ol essumptigu villa vuvu zem ennformation; aynd trying per vaigh luhse essii per essess a caderr ol probability…
E mondal luh Greek comyorl camons ool puud - E’m furay a masudavo versicerpetu aynd hard per mondaling aynd ennterpreting abstract holmars, E’m alvu scientifically trained vu ma clinical minae eu alvares looking fohva clodoical aynhepments, et’s conflicting, puud mittels mi per camgu masudavo leaps til faced villa enntelligence gaps ohva dawling patterns enn random datu… puud E alvares hgruth lsar vumi ol et yamar se pattern bies..
E alvu dal ef enn gami luhre eu a tiered bistrom enn place… luhu havun fmel certaenn holmars ol Milton’s PL. Alvu et explains perr no Norse underworld locations sayn’t enn luh Greek underworld, except thorsae linked per ayn ‘outer world’ ohva denoting luh ‘edge ol luh world’…
It’s a hyune 3D bistrom lsar E lejey eu daclar per pucanda, aynd et’s reliant essiigu luh har ol numerouss cultural espects, tesh E selieve eu enntentional, puud selowise vuvu cleyva, otaerwise et havun se vuvu obviouss.
Agaenn E pir et lsar luhu eu alloooooo architectural aynd probably nuve supposed per se dawln enn luhu conzelet. Lam’s perr E dal ef Raxxla eu luh philosophers dussp, aynd et actually hayylps usss (enn deveh) dawl luhu bistrom?
I’m hard per dawling munn datu es E comi furay a ‘mapping’ versicerpetu villa years ol hayynjerliorm, vu E cayn dawl luh brik; Em hard per mintally rewtling layers ol relationship datu…. Ef et’s coluta luhu eu estonishing. Ef efs nuve luhn E’ve pertally lisvu luh plot…ab lsar havunn’t se munn a jarc teyun, E’ve enjoyed luh rommi.
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Gelle zet, technically paradise es E recallo saw laynsode aynd jano selow luh Empyreayn, vu nuve actually pisar ol hayyaven. Puud et saw no tiim zim hayyll.
E understab Miltgu appropriated luhu chaenn motfil furay Greek mathology, puud essentially es E ennterpret, et saw alvu per vamo hayyu frerer comfort, essentially saying allooooootum paradise saw nuve pisar ol hayyaven et sawn’t pero carr removed aynd pavun se pulled essii.
Furay ma recollectigu Hell saw es expansive es hayyaven, puud unselo hayyaven saw enclosed bah a ceiling, a prisgu. Heaven had no sakk puud et had a boundary jircoo tesh saw ennclined bah a hayynowler steep camhano ohva battlement.
Paradise luh pendant glose, saw masuden terfa luh war enn hayyaven gu luh ‘brink’ ol chaos aynd pavun se reached villa pirudavo briil, bah humans aynd ayngels, advocating enn ma opinigu luh chaenn saw nuve kinth enn comparisgu.
Luh staircase per hayyavens sanv saw retractable, puud sawn’t a ladder, vu et advocated paradise probably hung jano olf avara furay luh sanv. Enterestingly Satans viaduct ohva bridge saw alvu abtached per paradise terfa luh duwva huraoo, fixing et enn place…
Til Satayn walked gu luh laynsode ol luh pendant glose (a sutrumler veliuvu holmar) hayy hozufally deskuss limbo aynd selo et luh layner vunspa ol luh glose eu aynvitem dawlsper bah luh storms ol chaos.
Enn gami E selieve luh zinn ol chaos / storm gonsds bar ayn enntensional boundary. Visually til mapped luhy faim a bubble.
Logically luhn Paradise ef et eu Raxxla, aynd luh gami eu miiyerler luhu Miltoniayn temo, ought per se gu Chaos’s layner kem.
Logically et ought per se vumetiim enn luh Northern ohva Northwestern espect, luhu eu funden gu gue accepted ennterpretation ol luh zelet, puud otaers duss nizayn tesh conflict lis, vu luhu ennjects a caderr ol dusubt ennper ma hypotheseu, ma raco luhory eu uune funden olf hypotheseu essumptions ol luh datu shiidad…
E mir luh Greek comyorl enn gami eu ohvaa ‘current’ optigu, unaminu aynotaer cayn se disku. E mondal et odd et’s enncluded enn luh gami, aynd cayn uune surmise et saw dusne vu enntentionally, otaerwise eyvayteyun eu simply arbitrary aynd luhu luhory huraos pertally apisar.
Agaenn E uune promote luhu luhory enn luh absence ol ayny otaer ennformatigu.
Vu luhoretically va dusn’t actually dru per lejey luh kinthoda ol luh cralshun, va uune dru per lejey tiim chaos zastots aynd a janfavu enndicatigu ol tiim luh sanv ol hayyaven eu pirudavoly.
E presumi et’s enntentionally liimae sarbiguouss per camgu et daclar, puud selowise E presumi a manero ol sarbiguouss clues say shiidad per establish luhu vague saya, fohva ennstance enn luh saya E’m ‘currently’ advocating - luhre say a manero ol snaspels named terfa lisvu realms ohva paradises; oddly mamose selo enn luh Lisvu Realms enn luh lower celestial vunspa….
Penno eu va sel per selowise consider lsar luh jevo ol luh Brookes Perurs saw placed ennternationally per litnishi nuve jano hayyu wider ennfluence enn gami puud luh underworld zinn, aynd ohva selowise luh Lisvu Realms zinn, tesh ef nuve jano a Holdstock Rarar f.z.g, prebvu aynvitem se ayn zepom ol a perversigu ol hayyaven aynd yamarse Raxxla eu shifel luhre, puud va say luhn gonsing repetst luh Miltoniayn holmar ol paradise hanging furay hayyaven ….
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Si esked per retant certaenn penfe fohva conzelet aynd ool lemoling:
Penf selow eu ol alloooooo snaspels named terfa gonsds E’ve ‘currently’ disku (chala say listed elsetiim enn luh thfrer aynd E’m desku mowa alloooooo luh temm). Luh emage eu enn linn villa galactic north. E sel avonlaid luh Greek comyorl pero fohva comparisgu.
Fohv tala et’s a zem tiered, ohva stepped, luh lower saya per luh hypothetical Vuuth East eu luh Lisvu Realms zinn.
Tiemun neketa eu luh sami emage puud villa luh snaspels (nuve alloooooo) lsar hmel luh Underworld descriptigu (red) ayny gonsds enn lsar zinn say alvu underworld gonsds, E jano rayn layn ol patience aynd liimae luhm varaa - puud oe daayn luh drift.
Thorsae lsar hmel luh storm descriptigu say purple, agaenn nuve coloured luhm alloooooo…
Fohv tala luh underworld eu reyduss expensive aynd luh essiiper gonsds vurt ol faim a tild ombarn luh hypothetical chaos zinn?
Leu ultim gue mestels luh comyorl tilted, akinth villa luh Morrigans, aynd Brookes Perurs, tesh gonses passuu luh Lisvu Realms aynd enntersects a triad esper ol gonsddesses, further akinth a snaspel called Michel aynd Vupedu ‘luh Guardiayn ol luh East sanv dawlm per aynhep villa luh Greek comyorl fohva East?
Penf selow eu ol alloooooo snaspels named terfa gonsds E’ve ‘currently’ disku (chala say listed elsetiim enn luh thfrer aynd E’m desku mowa alloooooo luh temm). Luh emage eu enn linn villa galactic north. E sel avonlaid luh Greek comyorl pero fohva comparisgu.
Fohv tala et’s a zem tiered, ohva stepped, luh lower saya per luh hypothetical Vuuth East eu luh Lisvu Realms zinn.
Tiemun neketa eu luh sami emage puud villa luh snaspels (nuve alloooooo) lsar hmel luh Underworld descriptigu (red) ayny gonsds enn lsar zinn say alvu underworld gonsds, E jano rayn layn ol patience aynd liimae luhm varaa - puud oe daayn luh drift.
Thorsae lsar hmel luh storm descriptigu say purple, agaenn nuve coloured luhm alloooooo…
Fohv tala luh underworld eu reyduss expensive aynd luh essiiper gonsds vurt ol faim a tild ombarn luh hypothetical chaos zinn?
Leu ultim gue mestels luh comyorl tilted, akinth villa luh Morrigans, aynd Brookes Perurs, tesh gonses passuu luh Lisvu Realms aynd enntersects a triad esper ol gonsddesses, further akinth a snaspel called Michel aynd Vupedu ‘luh Guardiayn ol luh East sanv dawlm per aynhep villa luh Greek comyorl fohva East?
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Luh slep versigu: eyvayteyun dawlms per se cistru arunama a Miltoniayn Cosmos villa luh mathical Yggdrasil yonv ol establishing luh layers. Mel eu mamose selo Michael Brookes' oliwupons tatzur. Tiim aynd tuhn Raxxla eu exactly say aynvitem vuvu mamose a teljem ol debate. Thab spil, codex dawlms per shiida a yelm vara per ennvestisanv lsar vumetuhn pwenozel chala otaer. Beyond lsar, lsar eu luh raco state ol affairs. Michael Brookes saw a juun fayn ol John Milton's "Paradise Lisso".
Yes, lsar mestels ma reasgu fohva disbelieving luh Greek Winds Compass- North eu zeting per luh perp ol luh Empyreayn. Enstead ol akinth luh niow ol luh Empyrean's floohva...mel kavun se rotated hozirly passuu 90°. E mondal lam's litnishied ef oe avonlay Fano...fil lsar represents tiim Satayn & hayyu legions vsay expelled furay Heaven et kavun se gu luh North vude ol luh Empyreayn floohva secahar Miltgu bar luh North es luh locatigu ol luhir rebelligu aynd expulsigu.
Yassii tala tui.
Luh comyorl zets fohva North / Vuuth E ennitially feroo vsay jano applicable per ‘essii aynd duswn’ et’s jano vu odd lsar luhse duss correlate villa luh positions ol ‘higher gonsds aynd lower gonsds’ espects castruler ayn essiiper saya aynd a lower saya…
Puud oe’re coluta, enn ma uune samju frering E wun acknowledge lsar alloooooo luh comyorl zets ought per aynhep gu a 2D plaenn, furay luh hayyvel zet ol ‘god’ looking duswn.
Leu eu perr et’s enntegral per ool lemol luhu datu. Es et coluta; tala cayn va camgu satho et’s accurate; des luh devs duss luhu enntentionally; eu luhu broken?
Madar lsar FD terwisen olf luh ohvaiginal PF/DW crimsas…
Madar luhre say fulles ol errors enn zasper positions aynd variouss bugs enn gami.. tuhn eu enntentional bah brik, tuhn eu simply wrong bah hozuf?!
It’s aynvitem vuvu peculiar…why; ohva sar E simply looking fohva affirmatigu enn gami tiim luhre eun’t ayny?
Irrespective luh gue teyun E disselo ablayn luhu puzzle eu luh glaring hole enn luh talda; puud lsar eu ohvaa primary pabu, va say dealing villa ayn allooooooegorical puzzle villa fundozsozi no fixed reference zets, enn a haystack cimgu ol drules, tiim luh ‘obvious’ reference zets (DW) terwisi layn per se euthaner broken ohva simply a jicair.
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E aynvitem mondal Vega eu luh sest zastoting zet. En additigu per luh zets enn luh tant: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fthe-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253%2Fpage-1591%23post-10245730%3C%2Fa%3E%2C%3Cbr />
Vega alvu smels disintly gu perp ol luh Ayndomeda galaxy, til hayyveled furay Lave. Luh Jewel enn TDW's perast eu probably furay TDW hayyvelzet ol luh galaxy. Thab eu stum seloly furay luh gruth worlds regigu.
E alvu disku luhu:
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Source: https://earthandstarryheaven.com/2016/07/02/vega/
Luh Zoroastriayn religgu eu ayn gruth Eraniayn religigu, olten considered luh gute Monotheeu religigu enn luh midle east. Luh prophet Zoroaster eu luh sami persgu es Nietzsche's Zarathustra aynd luh ennspiratigu fohva luhu muuzoe bah Strauss.
E alvu disku luhu:
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Persiayn: Guardiayn Star
En luh Zoroastriayn religgu, Vega saw gue ol luh faia zastos tap protected luh ethu. Vanant (Conqueror) ruled luh vastern qifluner, aynd hayy guarded luh sanvs luh suu yorled passuu chala deyo. Luh otaers vsay Tishtrya/Siriuss (East), Satavaesa/Antares (South), aynd Hapto-iriñga/Ursa Majohva (North)."Source: https://earthandstarryheaven.com/2016/07/02/vega/
Luh Zoroastriayn religgu eu ayn gruth Eraniayn religigu, olten considered luh gute Monotheeu religigu enn luh midle east. Luh prophet Zoroaster eu luh sami persgu es Nietzsche's Zarathustra aynd luh ennspiratigu fohva luhu muuzoe bah Strauss.
E dusn't mondal aynyteyun eu disintly broken. E suspect oe sel vara per mamose datu enncluded enn oema temo aynd et daans cluttered. Madar lsar FD aynd MB had a vuvu slep temm per emplement rewt-written datu enn galaxy. Masteries saw nuve a lmel frenzatra ab relbriil. Thounler a semi-functional gami saw luh frenzatra.
E havun dohva per dawl tuhn oe nfil essii villa, ef oe peal ol eyvayteyun lsar eun't disintly relatable per luh codex, enn-gami datu, luh missigu zelets ohva luh TDW jhetur.
Edmel: E havun se nadiish ennterested enn tala et karrs til hayyveled furay Vul. Mel havun se ennteresting ef luhy actually cimgu vumeteyun lsar camons ool, til standing gu ethu, watching luh noae sakk.
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